Geez... I never thought it would be so difficult to buy a freaking helmet... LOL. Could there be more brands, types, vents, weights, blah, blah, blah. Oh, and PRICES. I used to have a Shoei with my old bike, good helmet, didn't cost me a fortune. So I went to look at new Shoei helmets. Nice... except they cost as much as the bike(Well, almost)!
What's the deal here? I see a lot of new helmets for sub $100 bucks on Ebay... are these to be avoided like the plague or what?? I did find an HJC that I liked that wasn't terribly expensive... what's the best bang fer buck full face helmet? I care most about comfort and one that won't fog up on me.
HJC makes good, reasonably priced helmets.
1. buy a helmet that fits you well
If you're looking for relatively inexpensive helmets that will do the job, HJC is a good choice (I've had mine for 3 years and it does the job pretty well). I think KBC and Scorpion are at about the same level. Scorpion has been getting a lot of good press since they've been released and it will probably be my next helmet if it fits me well
AGV and Bieffe are Good.
You may also look these over if you have a Big Head. ;)
http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Categories.bok?category=HELMETS%3AVemar
I'm Very tempted to order the $100 one even though I'm broke and Already have an AGV still in the Box.I'm a Sucker for Free Shipping. :laugh: :laugh:
HJC, Scorpion, KBC are great helmets that don't cost to much. Just make sure you get a helmet that fits you head right.
If your looking for a flip up helmet go for a Nolan.
Yeah, I use a HJC fullface and its a nice helmet with decent venting.
Go try them on, if you can. Walk around the store for at least 10 minutes looking like retarded power ranger and see if you start to feel pressure points on your head.
I did this before buying mine, I found that HJC is for a slightly oval head shape, and that scorpion is for earth, or round head shapes.
arai makes different models for different head shapes, but also cost more.
Basically, how much do you think your head is worth if you were to crash? ;)
Quote from: ostwayne on November 16, 2006, 09:55:18 AM
Basically, how much do you think your head is worth if you were to crash? ;)
$1!!!!!!!!
Mihahaha, $1! :nono:
Quote from: ostwayne on November 16, 2006, 09:55:18 AM
Go try them on, if you can. Walk around the store for at least 10 minutes looking like retarded power ranger and see if you start to feel pressure points on your head.
I did this before buying mine, I found that HJC is for a slightly oval head shape, and that scorpion is for earth, or round head shapes.
arai makes different models for different head shapes, but also cost more.
Basically, how much do you think your head is worth if you were to crash? ;)
Thanks for all the responses guys. I think my head is a rectangle... LOL. That's a good idea about trying them on for a while for pressure points, even if I do look like a demented Power Ranger. It's just funny, when I was younger, I literally went into the store and bought the 1st helmet I tried on(it just happened to be a Shoei, before they cost $10,000). It wasn't uncomfortable that I remember... but now, I'm thinking: How many vents does it have? Is it DOT or Snell cert? How much does it weigh? Is the visor scratch proof?
I'll certainly pay what I need for good protection for my noggin... LOL... I guess the question is: Is the protection 5x greater for the helmets that are 5x the price?
Quote from: Johnny5 on November 16, 2006, 10:08:31 AM
I'll certainly pay what I need for good protection for my noggin... LOL... I guess the question is: Is the protection 5x greater for the helmets that are 5x the price?
Nope. My guess is 1.00005X greater protection for 5X the price
Check out scorpions.. the exo700 is lighter than the exo400, but they're both great helmets. Mine fits my head perfectly. Good venting.. NEVER fogged on me, EVER (my glasses used to fog, but the visor wouldn't). Scorpion makes an OEM visor that is photochromatic (tints in the sun, clear at night).. it's about a $60 addition, but well worth it, IMHO. Good aerodynamics, the helmet doesn't try to break your neck at 90mph, etc..
make sure that you go into a shop and physically try on the size of the model that you want to buy as the shapes/sized differ form manufacturer to manufacturer. You're gonna be wearing this thing every time you ride so you want it to fit perfectly above all else
I ride with either ICON or CK-X. The mainframe is a very nice helmet but very not so nice price tag as well. I ride a CK-X Modual-X and a CK-X Dragon most of the time bit with tinted lens. You can get the CK-X's WITH a tinted lens for 155.xx. They're a decent helmet IMO. very good for a nice helmet on a budget.
http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=45
They're blowing out the EXO-700s for $149.95 shipped. That's less than I paid for my exo-400. Granted, you can ONLY get the geronimo.. but still, it's a good deal!
Quote from: Johnny5 on November 16, 2006, 10:08:31 AM
Thanks for all the responses guys. I think my head is a rectangle... LOL. That's a good idea about trying them on for a while for pressure points, even if I do look like a demented Power Ranger. It's just funny, when I was younger, I literally went into the store and bought the 1st helmet I tried on(it just happened to be a Shoei, before they cost $10,000). It wasn't uncomfortable that I remember... but now, I'm thinking: How many vents does it have? Is it DOT or Snell cert? How much does it weigh? Is the visor scratch proof?
I'll certainly pay what I need for good protection for my noggin... LOL... I guess the question is: Is the protection 5x greater for the helmets that are 5x the price?
If you even CONSIDER buying a helmet that isn't DOT/Snell certified, I think the moderators are going to ride over there and knock some sense into you :laugh: :laugh:
Once you figure out what head shape (rectangle, trapezoid, dodecahedron) you have, take a look at http://www.webbikeworld.com/Reviewed-motorcycle-products/Products.htm (http://www.webbikeworld.com/Reviewed-motorcycle-products/Products.htm)
They've got really good in depth reviews from tons of models.
You can't legally sell a motorcycle helmet in the US that isn't DOT certified. ;)
Edit: fixed, pedants
Quote from: Egaeus on November 16, 2006, 11:37:27 AM
You can't buy a motorcycle helmet in the US that isn't DOT certified. ;)
Heh, instead of Snell OR DOT cert, I should've said Snell AND DOT cert.
I've got a hjc cl15, got it local for 120bucks. Good lid with good vents and sheild is antifog. Lots of helmets say antifog but it doesn't work, this one does.
Good hunting!!
Quote from: Egaeus on November 16, 2006, 11:37:27 AM
You can't buy a motorcycle helmet in the US that isn't DOT certified. ;)
Yes you can I see them for sale all the time. And if you go to your local bike rally / bike festival you can even buy DOT approved stickers to stick on them.
Oh whats the deal with sport bike riders wearing half helmets / nazi helmet's and the cruiser guys wearing full face helmets? Seems to be a growing trend down here.
Quote from: blue05twin on November 16, 2006, 12:38:49 PMOh whats the deal with sport bike riders wearing half helmets / nazi helmet's and the cruiser guys wearing full face helmets? Seems to be a growing trend down here.
I grew up in NY, but I moved to CT about 11 yrs ago. No helmet law here in CT, which I think is pretty nutty. It's just weird to see people wheelie up and down Rt 8 doing 100mph with NO HELMET! :o
I just don't think I could ever ride without a helmet, EVER. I like my bike naked, not my head.
I got an HJC (I think CL 14/15) and the ventilation sux. I bought it for around $150 a year ago.
I also have a KBC (dunno the #) but it was $150 when I bought it new as well... and the ventilation (anti-fog) is at-par with the HJC.
The size differences between the two are huge as well. I have a small in the HJC and a medium in the KBC. The KBC is still a bit more snug.
The best helmets can run you upwards of $500. If you're on a budjet I'd go with KBC, HJC, or Shark. I dont have any experience w/ shark helmets but they are cheap and look pretty good.
I'd pick KBC over HJC any day of the week. It's probably just me, but the KBC fits my head just right because it is a little narrower than the HJC that looks more round overall.
The KBC "feels" like it has much better protection as well; ESPECIALLY in the chin area, which is a common impact zone on the helmet.
The crush-foam pads in my KBC extend (almost) all the way to my chin and hold my jaw and cheeks snug in place. The crush-foam pads on the HJC stop all the way back to just a little below, and foreward of the ear. There is virtually NO foam padding in the chin and foreward-cheek area of the helmet.
that's not very comforting. anyways, try a few on & see what fits best.
My HJC is very nice and fits great. It does fog up though.
for the love of god stay away from icon.
HJC corbon fiber helment 320$ and less than weight than aria there are other hjc but thats the best imo
Kbc VR-2 or force RR
then theres Nolan helments farly light, half way good price, but a all around good helment.
key things to stay away from is a polycobonat(spell) shell (the plastic) very heavly,
besure it is a snell rated helment as that has the highest safty standard.
Quote from: rangerbrown on November 16, 2006, 01:47:06 PM
besure it is a snell rated helment as that has the highest safty standard.
I don't agree with that, but there's already been enough oppionions about that topic.
My oppionion is that the euro standard is better than snell and has more realistic impact test.
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find one in the states that has a euro rating for a cheap price
Quote from: blue05twin on November 16, 2006, 01:59:57 PM
I don't agree with that, but there's already been enough oppionions about that topic.
My oppionion is that the euro standard is better than snell and has more realistic impact test.
It all depends on what kind of wreck you are going to have. Get a helmet that will protect you best for that wreck.
As far as money goes, ask yourself, if I am having a wreck, and I could stop and get a different helmet, would I? If so, you're buying the wrong helmet.
Just wondering whats the cheapest snell rated helmet for sale in the US?
I got an Arai Corsair, I bought it used for $400. brand new for the one that I wanted it cost $650, I could get the Euro one for $500 to $550. And if the guy I was buying my helmet from didn't finally ship me mine I would have gotten the Euro one.
The Icon Mainframe is ~$200 without graphics. It's Snell rated.
All of the New HJC's I've been looking at are both Snell M-2005 and DOT-218 rated.
My scorpion was $140 - 10%, and is DOT/Snell..
Quote from: ostwayne on November 16, 2006, 11:34:38 AM
Quote from: Johnny5 on November 16, 2006, 10:08:31 AM
Thanks for all the responses guys. I think my head is a rectangle... LOL. That's a good idea about trying them on for a while for pressure points, even if I do look like a demented Power Ranger. It's just funny, when I was younger, I literally went into the store and bought the 1st helmet I tried on(it just happened to be a Shoei, before they cost $10,000). It wasn't uncomfortable that I remember... but now, I'm thinking: How many vents does it have? Is it DOT or Snell cert? How much does it weigh? Is the visor scratch proof?
I'll certainly pay what I need for good protection for my noggin... LOL... I guess the question is: Is the protection 5x greater for the helmets that are 5x the price?
If you even CONSIDER buying a helmet that isn't DOT/Snell certified, I think the moderators are going to ride over there and knock some sense into you
He has an office outside of Poughkeepsie: http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=30883.msg344931#msg344931
Solid colors are less expensive.
Shoei Tz-1 solid white: $249
Same helmet with graphics: $300
Shoei TZR solid white: $303 (click dropdown menu in link below)
With graphics: $369 http://www.shoei-helmets.com/road/helmets_road.aspx?h=4
Things that make you go...hmmm.
Quote from: scratch on November 16, 2006, 02:53:31 PMHe has an office outside of Poughkeepsie: http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=30883.msg344931#msg344931
Solid colors are less expensive.
Shoei Tz-1 solid white: $249
Same helmet with graphics: $300
Shoei TZR solid white: $303 (click dropdown menu in link below)
With graphics: $369 http://www.shoei-helmets.com/road/helmets_road.aspx?h=4
Things that make you go...hmmm.
Ha, yup I do, it's in Wappingers Falls LOL. I forgot I even posted that.
If anybody else is in the area, I found an absolutely MINT '96 red GS500e as well, with under 5000 miles! I'm going with the '98 because it seems to be a better deal for me, price wise.
I actually like the solid orange Shoei to go with the bike which is a '98 orange, but my wife convinced me that I'd be sorry if I sold the bike. That made a lot of sense so I've kind of decided on either Matte black, or silver and black... or base black with a small amount of addtl color.
I tried the HJC CL-SP that I like at a local shop, and the price is nice... but I'll have to put it on longer and see how it feels:
http://www.hjchelmets.com/clsp.htm
(http://www.hjchelmets.com/images/products/product_images/clsp/typeo/mc5f.jpg)
It comes down to one thing...
Buy the one that fits the best.... Even if it's the $500 one...
When I went to buy my helmet, I thought the same thing you did... Holy Crap! Look at all these choices. So... I went about trying them on and my decision was made for me.
I've had a number of helmets over the years. I currently have a KBC Patriot, and recently picked up a Vega as I wanted a Modular helmet for the commute. The KBC is snell/dot The Vega is only DOT just like all the other modulars.
The only time I ever landed on my head, I was wearing a BELL. This goes back to 1988. Got a concussion out of it, but I think that probably would have happened with any helmet. It hurt, I healed. I learned from it.
Regards
Graham
Quote from: Egaeus on November 16, 2006, 02:04:18 PM
It all depends on what kind of wreck you are going to have. Get a helmet that will protect you best for that wreck.
that line should go down in history :laugh:
if no one has said it . check out newenough.com !!! hit up there clearnce section
An HJC CS-12 saved my life: (pictures don't do a justice)
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After that I picked up a KBC TK-8 for about the same amount of money if I remember correctly. Way nicer helmet, way more comfortable, everything is ten steps higher in quality. I'd highly recommend it (they go for $125-$150 depending on colours, and they have some nice ones too).
http://www.kbc-helmet.com/kbcbbs/zboard.php?id=street&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=22&PHPSESSID=bdec1e69695248aba64077f165a32593
I have some problems with buying helment too, becuase my head is quite big, currently riding with an OGK.....really good.
RST is sort of good and not expensive, consider to give it a go!
Quote from: Johnny5 on November 16, 2006, 03:21:59 PM
Quote from: scratch on November 16, 2006, 02:53:31 PMHe has an office outside of Poughkeepsie: http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=30883.msg344931#msg344931
Solid colors are less expensive.
Shoei Tz-1 solid white: $249
Same helmet with graphics: $300
Shoei TZR solid white: $303 (click dropdown menu in link below)
With graphics: $369 http://www.shoei-helmets.com/road/helmets_road.aspx?h=4
Things that make you go...hmmm.
Ha, yup I do, it's in Wappingers Falls LOL. I forgot I even posted that.
If anybody else is in the area, I found an absolutely MINT '96 red GS500e as well, with under 5000 miles! I'm going with the '98 because it seems to be a better deal for me, price wise.
I actually like the solid orange Shoei to go with the bike which is a '98 orange, but my wife convinced me that I'd be sorry if I sold the bike. That made a lot of sense so I've kind of decided on either Matte black, or silver and black... or base black with a small amount of addtl color.
I tried the HJC CL-SP that I like at a local shop, and the price is nice... but I'll have to put it on longer and see how it feels:
http://www.hjchelmets.com/clsp.htm
(http://www.hjchelmets.com/images/products/product_images/clsp/typeo/mc5f.jpg)
The HJC CL-SP is a great helmet for the money, and is DOT/ Snell approved and HJC helmets are used by a lot of pro's, I like the CL-SP it has a quick change visor, washable liner, and the best aerodynamics of any helmet I've ever used. :)
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/bettingpython/07_diabolic_tc3.jpg)
$349 plus $20 shipping early release of the 07 RF1000 diabolic TC3.
I ride inappropiately fast. Therefore I purchase gear appropriate for my riding style. Modular helmets do not provide the level of protection a full shell offers. This same helmet at my local dealership is $600 find the size and model that fit's you best then hit the internet.
I am pleased with the venting of the RF1000 line, it has excellent airflow across the top of my head with it opened up and closed with just the chin vent open it does an excellent job of defogging my visor with the breath guard and chin cover installed, yet still keeps my noggin comfy on my chilly fall excursions.
I ride with a HJC CL-Max modular (flipup) helmet. I tried on some of the full-face helmets, but i found i would have to take my glasses off and push them on through the face-hole after i put the helmet on. Since both my primary and backup eyeglasses have titanium frames (expensive as hell, but worth it when I get hit in the face--I play semi-hardcore volleyball ;) ) I can't push them under the padding without pretzeling up. The pretzel factor doesn't hurt the frames, but it makes them hard as hell to get them on my face straight.
I'll continue to ride with the modular. it's either that or ride blind. :icon_lol:
QuoteI ride inappropiately fast.
I like that...
Quote from: pantablo on November 19, 2006, 11:48:30 PM
QuoteI ride inappropiately fast.
I like that...
Ammended,
I ride inappropriately fast, when my wife is not riding with me,
My wife passed her MSF and is getting her endorsement today so I will have to slow down.
OK, so I've tried on a bunch of new helmets. I tried Shoei, Arai, and Scorpion, KBC, and HJC so far.
The HJC helmets fit my head the best, with the KBC second. I loved the scorpion EXO-700 helmet, but it just squeezed my face like a grape, LOL... same with the Arai and Shoei. There was one Shoei I tried that fit better, I guess it's made for rounder heads/faces, but it was $700 bucks. Interestingly enough, the Shoei and Arai's I had to put on the mediums and they were to small, yet the HJC I had to go with a small.
Looks like I'm going to go with an HJC, now I just need to find the best deal on a color scheme that matches Azteca Orange! I'll probably do the matte grey/black like the CL-SP Raven.
remember that Shoei and Arai make more than 1 shell shape, the RF1000 is just one of Shoei's models the X-11 and the TZR both have different shell shapes and fit different heads. Arai has the quantum and corsair..probably another model that I am not aware of. And Just an FYI on the question of price vs. protection IMHO you get what you pay for. Just my experience. Then again I have to remember that I travel at times considerably faster than the GS is capable of going.
Everybody remmber this formula for impact energy calculations, energy equals mass times velocity squared?
The lower price end of the Scorpion, KBC, and HJC helmets are not good enough to protect my head in my opinion. Some of those helmet's just meet the bare minimum for a D.O.T. certification.
I can now attest to the crash worthiness of the RF1000, my 954 misbehaved today and highsided me hammered my head hard enough to clean my clock and knock me out for a couple of seconds. gear is good this was 15mph and I'd be dead or severely brain damaged without a helmet. So tooling around you neighborhood is not a good reason not to wear a helmet. This was less than a block from my house.
Wow that is a shock to me. I always go around my block without a helmet usually after I change my oil or tighten the chain. Now it is helmet all the time.
Quote from: Budrick320 on November 21, 2006, 09:11:45 AM
Wow that is a shock to me. I always go around my block without a helmet usually after I change my oil or tighten the chain. Now it is helmet all the time.
Many people make that mistake, and pay for it dearly, I knew a guy who was goofing around and sitting on the hood of a friends car as he was pulling in to park. He died as a result of that, he slid off the hood of the car when the driver hit his brakes at 3mph and he slid from the hood of the car and hit his head on a curb.
Anytime you test ride a bike after maintenance you are at great risk simply because you may have forgotten something simple that can cause the bike to misbehave and go down.
Just my .02 though.
Quote from: Budrick320 on November 21, 2006, 09:11:45 AM
Wow that is a shock to me. I always go around my block without a helmet usually after I change my oil or tighten the chain. Now it is helmet all the time.
How is it shocking? Most accidents happen within a few blocks from home, according to pretty much any motorcycle accident survey.
I'm having a heck of a time getting a helmet that fits. I started with an HJC CL-14, after about 3 months it had packed out, and now wiggles around on my head. Then I got the pink Icon mainframe. It fits Ok, but it's hard and noisy. Got a gift certificate and went shopping for an Arai. The Arai Profile fit great--that is, the packed out one that 100 people have tossed around fit great. I ordered one. Damn, the large is too big and the medium is too small. It'll pack out, they said. Even after 2 months the pads are still like a vise on my head. I'm gonna try to order the smaller replacement pads from Arai, cause I really like the color and the way the visor works, and it's all buggy and chipped now, so they're not gonna take it back. :mad: :mad:
The mistake you made with Arai was ordering it, an Arai dealer is supposed to carry a variety of different pads. Once you find the shell which fits the shape of your head and the appropriate size is determined,an Arai is custom fitted specifically for you. I ride with lots of people who wear them and they buy exclusively from local shops who are certified dealers. There is also some warranty coverage available that is not offered or honored if you purchase your helmet online.
I would suggest going to a local Arai dealer and see if they can help you fit your shell.
Quote from: Budrick320 on November 21, 2006, 09:11:45 AM
Wow that is a shock to me. I always go around my block without a helmet usually after I change my oil or tighten the chain. Now it is helmet all the time.
Yeah, me too. +1 on wearing helmets at all times while on the bike.
Glad to hear you're ok.
Chilly
I did buy my Arai at a shop. Del Amo Motorsports. By ordering, I ment that they didn't have a Profile-Medium in stock so they had to order it. When it came in, I tried it on, and it felt tight. They said it would pack out, and I was worried about that because my HJC did that. They said I could possibly have to switch the pads, but they didn't have any in stock and they'd have to order those too. Fack, and this shop is like 2-3 hours from my house, so I didn't want to order anything else there.
Quote from: bettingpython
I can now attest to the crash worthiness of the RF1000, my 954 misbehaved today and highsided me hammered my head hard enough to clean my clock and knock me out for a couple of seconds. gear is good this was 15mph and I'd be dead or severely brain damaged without a helmet. So tooling around you neighborhood is not a good reason not to wear a helmet. This was less than a block from my house.
Wow, how the heck did you do that? That sucks, hope all is well, that bike must have some serious balls.
I'm actually afraid that I will have the same problem as Jen, as I seem to be in between sizes. The HJC CL-SP and CL-15 seem to be the best fits so far, but I'm afraid of them loosening up to much. Honestly, the shops I went to carried Arai, and they weren't all that helpful in fitting me for ANY helmet, let alone Arai. I did try some Scorpions again today, the 700's felt better today, and the 400's seem to run bigger than the 700's. Geez I never thought it would be so difficult to buy a helmet. And I don't see how any one can buy one online w/o trying it on somewhere first, they all fit so differently. I tried so many helmets today my temples are chafed (literally) LOL.
Grow more hair to tighten things up
Shave your head to loosen things up :cookoo:
135 RWHP and 76 ft/LBS torque, yes it has some balls, finally figured out what happened. 1) I put a brand new rear on this weekend. 2) it was 45 degrees. I was babying her so as not to have something like this happen but I did not account for fall foliage. My neghborhhod streets are being overtaken by all the leaf litter build up in the gutters, it has encroached upon the roads and cars have regularly been running over and grinding up large quantities of leafs, this creates a fine not tire friendly dust that accumalates on windless days. This stuff I discovered on walking the area I lost the rear at is almost as slick as radiator fluid. And not noticeable.
When I was picking the bike up I was at a loss for why I couldn't get any traction since I could see no fluids on the road. Now I know. In 21 years this is the first time I have encountered this issue. On a smaller bike like my wifes GS this probably would not have been an issue. These things happen. Both knees are sore and today my neck muscles are sore from the helmet impacting the ground. Some part of the bike came down on my right foot and crushed my right great toe, no break but lots of soft tissue damage and swelling. None of my plastics are broken but since I am so anal about my bikes it's going to run about 1,000 bucks to replace the rashed pieces.
Learn something new everyday. Hopefully this will help someone else avoid this problem.
Quote from: blue05twin on November 16, 2006, 02:08:31 PM
Just wondering whats the cheapest snell rated helmet for sale in the US?
Icon Alliance Primary 2 for 79.99$ at newenough.com is Snell & Dot Approved.
(http://www.motorcyclegearreview.com/images/icon-primary-alliance.jpg)
Link to reviews http://www.motorcyclegearreview.com/reviews.php?prodID=810
I have made the mistake in the past of ordering a "jarfum" or what ever he calls himself... helmet was noisy as heck, padding was tight, 2 weeks later it packed-out and helmet was loose... and the flip up mechanism ended breaking...
I have a KBC FFR Element flip up;
(http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/photos/300/g21478.jpg)
Its noisier than a full face no doubt, but solid and super comfy, the flip up mechanism is a solid metal joint, and the lock pins and anchor points also all metal. Very solid, a little heavier than your closed full helmets but expected from a flip up... nothing like being stuck in traffic @ 5 mph , flip helmet and light a smoke... (grin), I like the bent nose design a lot more than the standard design (as in the Icon model) the FFR chin is hooked down and I can tell you it takes the wind off your chin and removed a lot of turbulance from this area..
Yeah, those wet leaves and stuff that get mashed on the road can be as slick as ice, that was how I last went down, I hit a little patch on a corner that was only about one sq. foot and the front slipped out too far and down I went. I was aware of the road conditions and I was going slow, so I've hurt myself worse falling off a bar stool. And I think the only way I could have avoided this spill is if I would have left the bike at home that day. :cheers:
Quote from: rangerbrown on November 16, 2006, 02:02:08 PM
find one in the states that has a euro rating for a cheap price
Yeah I agree, but the cost is prohibitive to get such a helmet shipped over.
it doesnt matter what you wear in Texas, there is no required Helemet law, I see plenty of bozos without a helmet and plenty with "fiberglass german helmets replicas" on their head while cruising the state.
I know I would be best served by a european standard tested helmet, but they are way overpriced.
I need to take a european vacation next year and buy one there and bring it back with me. and save on fitting and shipping issues.
Vemar is available in the US. The VSR carries an ECE 22-05 as well as Dot approval. A solid color will run you 359 and to get the graphics as high as 413. That is not unreasonable in my book. Of course I pay for Shoei's and that falls into my acceptable price range. Now the CF Vemar I would love to have but I don't want to part with 800 bucks.
Quote from: pbureau69 on November 22, 2006, 05:01:49 AM
I have made the mistake in the past of ordering a "jarfum" or what ever he calls himself...
Fulmar?
Quote from: scratch on November 25, 2006, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: pbureau69 on November 22, 2006, 05:01:49 AM
I have made the mistake in the past of ordering a "jarfum" or what ever he calls himself...
Fulmar?
It's actually Jafrum... I saw those in my search. www.jafrum.com (http://www.jafrum.com). They are only dot rated though (actually all modulars I've found are only dot rated).
Check out this helmet... EXL on ebay. It's Snell 2005 and DOT (And I think also ECE) rated. Plus it's Fiberglass composite.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/219-BLACK-SNELL-MOTORCYCLE-BIKE-FULL-FACE-HELMETS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6749QQihZ002QQitemZ120055273236QQtcZphoto
The problem? I can't find info about the mfg anywhere, so it must be made by another company. Also the newer THH's are also Snell, DOT, and ECE rated.. and they're under $100 bucks. And for ten minutes around the store, the TS-40's were actually pretty comfortable and well fitting.
I've found some interesting battles that wage on the web regarding helmets (when I do something, I beat it to death lol - it's the engineer in me). A lot of people are totally against these lower cost helmets, and then you have others that are unconvinced that the $600 helmets are really any better for protection. There's actually an article I've found (which I'm sure many people here have already read) that was linked on the WebBikersWorld website and written by motorcyclist online that that really makes you go "Hmmmm", Regarding the standards. If you haven't read this article it is a GREAT read.
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/
And who would've thunk that the most important part of the helmet seems to be what is made from an old beer cooler! EPS seems to be more important for the interior lining choice than what the outer material consists of (as long as you buy something that polycarbonate, fiberglass, or carbon fiber).
And after all of this... I STILL haven't decided what I'm going to buy, LOL!
Quote from: Johnny5 on November 26, 2006, 12:39:34 PM
Quote from: scratch on November 25, 2006, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: pbureau69 on November 22, 2006, 05:01:49 AM
I have made the mistake in the past of ordering a "jarfum" or what ever he calls himself...
Fulmar?
It's actually Jafrum... I saw those in my search. www.jafrum.com (http://www.jafrum.com). They are only dot rated though (actually all modulars I've found are only dot rated).
Check out this helmet... EXL on ebay. It's Snell 2005 and DOT (And I think also ECE) rated. Plus it's Fiberglass composite.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/219-BLACK-SNELL-MOTORCYCLE-BIKE-FULL-FACE-HELMETS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6749QQihZ002QQitemZ120055273236QQtcZphoto
The problem? I can't find info about the mfg anywhere, so it must be made by another company. Also the newer THH's are also Snell, DOT, and ECE rated.. and they're under $100 bucks. And for ten minutes around the store, the TS-40's were actually pretty comfortable and well fitting.
I've found some interesting battles that wage on the web regarding helmets (when I do something, I beat it to death lol - it's the engineer in me). A lot of people are totally against these lower cost helmets, and then you have others that are unconvinced that the $600 helmets are really any better for protection. There's actually an article I've found (which I'm sure many people here have already read) that was linked on the WebBikersWorld website and written by motorcyclist online that that really makes you go "Hmmmm", Regarding the standards. If you haven't read this article it is a GREAT read.
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/
And who would've thunk that the most important part of the helmet seems to be what is made from an old beer cooler! EPS seems to be more important for the interior lining choice than what the outer material consists of (as long as you buy something that polycarbonate, fiberglass, or carbon fiber).
And after all of this... I STILL haven't decided what I'm going to buy, LOL!
Dang dude, you're like me in buying gloves. I spent MONTHS trying to decide which ones would be right for me.
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on November 26, 2006, 07:54:33 PM
Dang dude, you're like me in buying gloves. I spent MONTHS trying to decide which ones would be right for me.
I know, it's ridiculous. No matter what I do... You should see me ordering dinner from a menu.