Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: Toenis on July 10, 2003, 05:21:00 AM
Post by: Toenis on July 10, 2003, 05:21:00 AM
What the hell is that? ;)
I was browsing good old Oliveeeeer`s site and look what I noticed:
Gimbel`s ad for seat cowl features a GS with spoke wheel(s)...
(http://olivieeeer.free.fr/gs500e/access/capot_selle_tecno-bike_com.jpg)
Now I must get those ;)
Those are lighter than stock wheels, right?
Where to get this kind of wheels?
And with spoke wheels I can really play with rim sizes and so on... :thumb:
Please tell me I was first who noticed that :P
I was browsing good old Oliveeeeer`s site and look what I noticed:
Gimbel`s ad for seat cowl features a GS with spoke wheel(s)...
(http://olivieeeer.free.fr/gs500e/access/capot_selle_tecno-bike_com.jpg)
Now I must get those ;)
Those are lighter than stock wheels, right?
Where to get this kind of wheels?
And with spoke wheels I can really play with rim sizes and so on... :thumb:
Please tell me I was first who noticed that :P
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: JamesG on July 10, 2003, 05:38:16 AM
Post by: JamesG on July 10, 2003, 05:38:16 AM
QuoteThose are lighter than stock wheels, right?Maybe, but not nessisarily, Spoke hubs have to be beefy and all those steel wires add up. Also they aren't as ridgid as mags.
QuoteYou can probably get new aftermarket ones ($$$$$) but your best bet is nab a set of wheels from a GS1000 or other big old bike and see about adapting them.
Where to get this kind of wheels?
QuoteYes and no. Yeah, but why would you put anything but a 17 on unless you just feel like being wierd?
And with spoke wheels I can really play with rim sizes and so on...
Also, your tire width is going to be VERY limited. I would be suprised if you could get one wider than a stock 130.
QuoteYep, you win the boobie prize. :cheers: [/quote]
Please tell me I was first who noticed that
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: Juanfer on July 10, 2003, 06:14:22 AM
Post by: Juanfer on July 10, 2003, 06:14:22 AM
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: Toenis on July 10, 2003, 06:23:27 AM
Post by: Toenis on July 10, 2003, 06:23:27 AM
The one and only positive side of spoke wheels on modern streetbikes 8) a tuned BT 1100
(http://ymedc.introweb.nl/en/archive/street/images/mastino/mn-side.jpg)
(http://ymedc.introweb.nl/en/archive/street/images/mastino/mn-side.jpg)
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: klimber on July 10, 2003, 06:36:33 AM
Post by: klimber on July 10, 2003, 06:36:33 AM
woooow hold on a minute, where do you get that seat cowl and seat, is it custom?
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: Toenis on July 10, 2003, 06:41:40 AM
Post by: Toenis on July 10, 2003, 06:41:40 AM
http://olivieeeer.free.fr/gs500e/access/selle_gimbel.html there are two links on that page...
1. http://www.gimbel-motorradtechnik.de/
2. http://www.tecno-bike.com/
1. http://www.gimbel-motorradtechnik.de/
2. http://www.tecno-bike.com/
Title: Spoked...
Post by: The Buddha on July 10, 2003, 08:32:07 AM
Post by: The Buddha on July 10, 2003, 08:32:07 AM
Spoked wheels are heavy as hell....Their rims are steel and the riim alone out weighs the whole GS wheel and tire assy probably.
Cool.
Srinath.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: tkm433 on July 10, 2003, 07:29:10 PM
Post by: tkm433 on July 10, 2003, 07:29:10 PM
Have you checked the weight of any SUPERMOTO bikes of late? Most of these bike weight in under 300 lbs from the factory and if you check out the Husqvarna SMR570 below it weights in under 260 lbs while the GS500E hits the scales at 380 lbs????????
COMPLETE SUPERMOTO WHEELS
(http://www.central-wheel.co.uk/products/supermoto.jpg)
Starting at about $800 a set!
Complete wheels compose of San Remo Alloy Rims, C.W.C Stainless Steel Spokes and Talon Hubs. San Remo Alloy Rims come in a highly polished bare metal finish and can be anodised Black or Silver. Talon Hubs are high quality, machined from alloy billet to give maximum strength and weight saving. They are available in a choice of anodised colours.
All hubs come complete with mounting bolts and in most cases accept original discs and sprockets. To enhance braking performance 320mm disc and calliper relocating bracket kits are also available for most of the popular conversions.
(http://www.moto-kaufmann-lyss.ch/neumoto/570SMR.jpg)
260 lbs dry weight with spoke wheels? Street legal!!!
COMPLETE SUPERMOTO WHEELS
(http://www.central-wheel.co.uk/products/supermoto.jpg)
Starting at about $800 a set!
Complete wheels compose of San Remo Alloy Rims, C.W.C Stainless Steel Spokes and Talon Hubs. San Remo Alloy Rims come in a highly polished bare metal finish and can be anodised Black or Silver. Talon Hubs are high quality, machined from alloy billet to give maximum strength and weight saving. They are available in a choice of anodised colours.
All hubs come complete with mounting bolts and in most cases accept original discs and sprockets. To enhance braking performance 320mm disc and calliper relocating bracket kits are also available for most of the popular conversions.
(http://www.moto-kaufmann-lyss.ch/neumoto/570SMR.jpg)
260 lbs dry weight with spoke wheels? Street legal!!!
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: Arpee on July 10, 2003, 10:51:00 PM
Post by: Arpee on July 10, 2003, 10:51:00 PM
...And you can put playing cards in the spokes..... :mrgreen:
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: mrslush50 on July 10, 2003, 11:42:15 PM
Post by: mrslush50 on July 10, 2003, 11:42:15 PM
lol
and i can't wait for the supermoto series on OLN. that's gonna be pretty cool.
and i can't wait for the supermoto series on OLN. that's gonna be pretty cool.
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: JohNLA on July 11, 2003, 12:02:02 AM
Post by: JohNLA on July 11, 2003, 12:02:02 AM
Cleaning spoked rims can take days. One more reason to not buy a knihthawk 250.
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: Juanfer on July 11, 2003, 06:55:09 AM
Post by: Juanfer on July 11, 2003, 06:55:09 AM
Quote from: Arpee...And you can put playing cards in the spokes..... :mrgreen:
also you can put a tennis ball...
Title: Re: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: The Buddha on July 11, 2003, 07:28:03 AM
Post by: The Buddha on July 11, 2003, 07:28:03 AM
Quote from: tkm433Have you checked the weight of any SUPERMOTO bikes of late? Most of these bike weight in under 300 lbs from the factory and if you check out the Husqvarna SMR570 below it weights in under 260 lbs while the GS500E hits the scales at 380 lbs????????
COMPLETE SUPERMOTO WHEELS
Starting at about $800 a set!
Complete wheels compose of San Remo Alloy Rims, C.W.C Stainless Steel Spokes and Talon Hubs. San Remo Alloy Rims come in a highly polished bare metal finish and can be anodised Black or Silver. Talon Hubs are high quality, machined from alloy billet to give maximum strength and weight saving. They are available in a choice of anodised colours.
All hubs come complete with mounting bolts and in most cases accept original discs and sprockets. To enhance braking performance 320mm disc and calliper relocating bracket kits are also available for most of the popular conversions.
260 lbs dry weight with spoke wheels? Street legal!!!
I have seen and lifted those wheels. Gotta admit it was one heck of a cool setup. The bike was a XR650 some or other, and with those 17inch wheels the bike was just a shade taller than a GS and will stoppie and wheelie at will. Made a great street bike. Those wheels however whole different story...they were nearly the same weight as the GS wheel and my GS has a heavy tire being a 90 tall Kenda or something like that. Its front wheel was very wide, almost as wide as the GS's rear and was heavier than the GS rear. Further the aluminium rims had to have a ton of work done on them. After the guy put them on he found out the spokes were causing the aluminum spoke holes to rip so he had them fitted with custom made steel inserts for the spokes to go through, and finally they flexed like crazy on the street cos you cant crank down the spokes as hard as you can with the steel rims and he didn't ever think they were strong enough to be comparable to stock mags that street bikes are fitted with. If I had a XR650 and wanted it to be a street only bike, no question I'll find wheels off a sport/street bike that fit in the size I wanted and adapt them to fit. The concept of spoked wheels is basically flawed, but in the old days they only had that technology so they used them. Just about a 100 years ago aluminium was extractable. Remember in the old days kings and queens used to eat from plates made of aluminum when all the other noblemen eat from plates made of gold and silver.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: jake42 on July 11, 2003, 08:15:50 AM
Post by: jake42 on July 11, 2003, 08:15:50 AM
off topic sorta-- are supermotos the same thing as the what they call supermotards in europe.
personally i like the term supermotard better :thumb:
jake
personally i like the term supermotard better :thumb:
jake
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: KevinC on July 11, 2003, 08:45:43 AM
Post by: KevinC on July 11, 2003, 08:45:43 AM
One point about spoked wheels that hasn't been mentioned, is that most of them require inner tubes, since all those holes for the spokes tend to leak. The tube is pretty heavy, and very few modern tires are recommended for use with tubes.
You do realize the XR650R only weighs 280 before the Supermotard conversion? There are a lot of reasons it is lighter than the GS500, the wheels aren't one of them.
It does make a great race bike though:
http://www.2wf.com/articles/bike_tests/6B80F8DA-87F2-413D-A47B-5AA7F7A33E2F.asp
You do realize the XR650R only weighs 280 before the Supermotard conversion? There are a lot of reasons it is lighter than the GS500, the wheels aren't one of them.
It does make a great race bike though:
http://www.2wf.com/articles/bike_tests/6B80F8DA-87F2-413D-A47B-5AA7F7A33E2F.asp
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: Delta88 on July 11, 2003, 08:48:48 AM
Post by: Delta88 on July 11, 2003, 08:48:48 AM
It's a known fact. Any word with "-tard" in it is always preferable to a synonym w/o "-tard" in it.
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: Delta88 on July 11, 2003, 08:51:17 AM
Post by: Delta88 on July 11, 2003, 08:51:17 AM
Same goes for "-turd," "-spaz," "-dump," and "-bung."
Title: Spoke wheels for GS ???
Post by: jake42 on July 11, 2003, 09:00:40 AM
Post by: jake42 on July 11, 2003, 09:00:40 AM
Quote from: Delta88It's a known fact. Any word with "-tard" in it is always preferable to a synonym w/o "-tard" in it.
lol- i agree completely
the term cretin is pretty good as a stand alone word.
jake