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Title: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: Wrongside on December 01, 2006, 04:23:34 PM
I've done the searches and found what rear wheels can be swapped out onto the GS...what I need to know is what the difference is between the 1998-2002 Suzuki Katana GSX600F and GSX750F rear wheel and a 96 GSX600F rear wheel is?

Can it work on our bikes? I noticed one on Ebay today and my friend has a 96 wheel set that I can have if it will work...

Anyone???
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: Chuck on December 01, 2006, 04:49:32 PM
Take a look at the second picture:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330056636527

The GS drive cushion has 5 slots.  I can't tell if this one has 6 or 12, but either way, it's wrong.  There may be other problems, since you could probably use the katana sprocket hub, but I don't know where that path leads...  Like you could get chain alignment problems or something.  Probably someone else should have answered this instead...
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: Wrongside on December 01, 2006, 04:53:33 PM
I was looking at this one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/96-SUZUKI-GSX600F-KATANA-REAR-RIM_W0QQitemZ290055154696QQihZ019QQcategoryZ35591QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

But found this one also  :icon_mrgreen:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-SUZUKI-GSX600F-KATANA-REAR-RIM_W0QQitemZ290055154765QQihZ019QQcategoryZ35591QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Might have to get that for myself for xmas
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: Chuck on December 01, 2006, 04:55:34 PM
So I can think of one problem... the Katana sprocket I think is 47-tooth, and on the GS you'd want something closer to 39.  So that means finding a 39-ish sprocket that fits on the katana hub.  Which may be possible, I don't know.  I'm just thinking out loud.  Maybe you'd even like the gearing at 47... you'd need a longer chain, though.  Well, except the katana sprocket is a 530... you could probably find a 520 sprocket for it, but it's starting to sound like a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: Chuck on December 01, 2006, 04:59:55 PM
Regarding the first link, I didn't think the 96 Katana had the twisted spoke design.  That looks like a GS wheel!

As for the second link... ouch on the price.  I just got my Katana wheel for $63 shipped.

(Edit: It was also my Christmas gift to myself.  My wife's Christmas gift to me was permitting me to pre-buy three track days for next year.  :) )
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: Turd Ferguson on December 01, 2006, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: Chuck on December 01, 2006, 04:59:55 PM
Regarding the first link, I didn't think the 96 Katana had the twisted spoke design.  That looks like a GS wheel!

As for the second link... ouch on the price.  I just got my Katana wheel for $63 shipped.

(Edit: It was also my Christmas gift to myself.  My wife's Christmas gift to me was permitting me to pre-buy three track days for next year.  :) )

Yes, the pre-98 Katana's had the exact same wheel as the GS, including the wheel bearings, hence the first wheel posted looks just like a GS wheel.

The other two (the 98-02 wheels) will work just fine on your bike, but will require modifications to your bike as stated in the FAQ section.  The Katana 750 and 600 have the same rear wheel and bearings as far as I know.

-Turd.
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: Turd Ferguson on December 01, 2006, 07:01:40 PM
Quote from: Wrongside on December 01, 2006, 04:23:34 PM
I've done the searches and found what rear wheels can be swapped out onto the GS...what I need to know is what the difference is between the 1998-2002 Suzuki Katana GSX600F and GSX750F rear wheel and a 96 GSX600F rear wheel is?

Can it work on our bikes? I noticed one on Ebay today and my friend has a 96 wheel set that I can have if it will work...

Anyone???

Yes, your friends 96 Kat 600 rear wheel will work just fine on your GS, it is (litterally) the same casting and wheel bearings as the GS.
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: werase643 on December 02, 2006, 09:16:03 AM
let's go back to the simple math
numbers may be diff but ball park

bare rim....70-100
rotor.....50
the caliper bracket for a kat...15-50
rear tire...100-160

friend...happytrack604 just bought one off of ebay
complete wheel assy with a brand new tar and the axle and caliper bracket
for 250
it sounded pricey at first.....then i did some figuring
it is a 10-15 min swap when it shows up

and he is done

Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: Jarrett on December 02, 2006, 05:48:50 PM
I did a rear wheel swap yesterday.  Man, what a headache. 
I spent
Rim $140
rotor $20
tire, $100
tire mount $10
nut's and bolts $10
Butane torch $20


Went with a 150 BT-45 rear tire.  Looks good.  The bike appears more ballanced.  Spent many hour from start to finish.  Torque arm was the thing that got me down.  I couldn't get the holes to line up right.  I got alittle carried away beating it into shape.  Ended up using a smaller bolt for the time being.  I did it all on the cheap, but I'm still happy with the results.  Balanced the wheel myself, stripped and painted the rim myself, didn't mess with the bearings, they were good enough.
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: Tommy in Texas on May 17, 2007, 09:43:40 AM
so let me get this straight, IS the 1996 suzuki katana rear wheel 4.5" wide? or is it the "exact same" as the gs's 3.5"?? man im confused. :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: dgyver on May 17, 2007, 09:52:11 AM
Quote from: Tommy in Texas on May 17, 2007, 09:43:40 AM
so let me get this straight, IS the 1996 suzuki katana rear wheel 4.5" wide? or is it the "exact same" as the gs's 3.5"?? man im confused. :icon_confused:

89-97 Kat 600/750 3.0" front and 3.5" rear wheels are the same as the GS.
98-02 Kat 600/750 rear wheel is 4.5" and is the same as the 99-02 SV650/S
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: Tommy in Texas on May 17, 2007, 09:58:17 AM
so a 99-02 sv650s wheel is basically a direct swap with the mods being the brake torque lever and the chain guard, plus shimming the sprocket?
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: dgyver on May 17, 2007, 10:02:28 AM
Quote from: Tommy in Texas on May 17, 2007, 09:58:17 AM
so a 99-02 sv650s wheel is basically a direct swap with the mods being the brake torque lever and the chain guard, plus shimming the sprocket?

The bearings may be different, I do not recall. You can look it up on any online parts diagram.
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: Tommy in Texas on May 17, 2007, 11:39:45 AM
alright, it looks like the bearing are the same, so does this mean we would be good to go for a direct swap minus the mods listed above?
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: dgyver on May 17, 2007, 11:47:46 AM
yes
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: rangerbrown on May 17, 2007, 05:07:14 PM
any tips for replaceing the bearings? i just got a set of Pirelli Diablo to install, the rear in mounted and balanced but i got to wait till my brake rotor get here, then i install it

i am runing 190/60-17 rear and 120/60-17 fornt

will a katana front wheel bolt ON so that i can get the same spoke or is a 120-60-17 ok on the gs wheel?
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: dgyver on May 17, 2007, 06:00:18 PM
The 98+ Kat front is not bolt on.
IIRC a 120 will not fit between the forks plus it is too wide for a 3" wheel.

Good luck fitting a 190 with chain clearance.
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: rangerbrown on May 17, 2007, 07:08:40 PM
woops my bad its a 160/60-17 rear

Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: rangerbrown on May 17, 2007, 07:17:01 PM
i did another quick search there are a few folk that have run 120 on the front and no problems, (other than fast turn in/sqwermish) but i hope the 60 profile will widen it out a little we shall see
Title: Re: Rear Wheel swap...
Post by: rangerbrown on May 17, 2007, 08:41:26 PM
just held it up to the front and slid it in... its very close, i may have to mod the front finder i will know in a week