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Title: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: Raydr on December 07, 2006, 07:11:53 PM
I ordered a kit for a little over $100 and took some time tonight to install a few of the LEDs.

I got a kit with 7 Blue and 2 white.

I've only installed 4 blue and 1 white so far and this is how it looks. I'll most likely add another white to fill in the dark spot in the middle...

The white one is on the center stand, so when the stand is down it actually shines right at the ground, and when it's up it's hitting the back tire (no blinding of drivers).

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/CTBolt/bikerear1.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/CTBolt/bikefront1.jpg)
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: annguyen1981 on December 07, 2006, 07:13:29 PM
I've never worked with the complete LED kits, but be careful...

Too much power draw might drain your battery REEEEEAAAAAAAAAAL quick.
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: Raydr on December 07, 2006, 07:23:31 PM
LEDs draw a very small amount of power.

Just think, if a single LED can run off of a CR2032 battery for months, I'm really not worried about the drain of a handful of LEDs on a motorcycle battery.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: Bulwark on December 07, 2006, 07:28:54 PM
I love that.  Was it hard to do?
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: Raydr on December 07, 2006, 07:35:38 PM
Quote from: Bulwark on December 07, 2006, 07:28:54 PM
I love that.  Was it hard to do?

Not at all.

I got it from here: http://www.customdynamics.com/step_lights.htm

Their page is a little weird to navigate, but the kit I got was "Standard CD LED Accent Kit". I specified in the order comments that I wanted the two pods to be white instead of blue (to match my bike). I don't think it's standard but they did it for me no questions asked.  :thumb:

It came with EVERYTHING, and I mean everything I needed, minus tools. Some people might need more wire than was included though. What took long was I did it in the dark and wanted to be super careful about routing of wires to keep them from heat and stress. Then it took me forever to decide where each light looked the best. The roommate had to help me with that one.

Overall I'm happy. I'll add more lights to get better blending (I don't like the spots/shadows) but it does turn heads.
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: Bulwark on December 07, 2006, 08:08:11 PM
Ill have to check and see if its legal here.  Id hate to do it then have to remove them.
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: warning on December 08, 2006, 02:30:15 AM
thats too much blling for me.  :nono:
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: blue05twin on December 08, 2006, 08:14:05 AM
Nice. :thumb:   You need to replace your headlight bulb with a hyper white or whatever they call them these days.  Did you set yours up to run off a toggle switch?  Or are they on all the time?
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: pandy on December 08, 2006, 10:29:17 AM
I like that!!! I'd absolutely do that if it's legal!  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: natedawg120 on December 08, 2006, 11:46:35 AM
thats probably not legal in most if not all states, i know it isn't in VA but then again nothing is legal here.  And it is a bit flashy for me. 
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: Wrongside on December 08, 2006, 11:52:24 AM
Quote from: natedawg120 on December 08, 2006, 11:46:35 AM
thats probably not legal in most if not all states, i know it isn't in VA but then again nothing is legal here.  And it is a bit flashy for me. 

I do belive that is isn't quite illegal in Cali unless it uses emergency vehicle color...hence no MIXING of red, white, and blue....But I'm not 100% on that. I think they let solid colors slide if they don't strobe.

My old 69 Mustang had a green under body light kit (Flat black paint job, it looked sweet) and I never got in trouble for the lights at all.
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: Blu_Spd_Dmon on December 08, 2006, 12:36:17 PM
I think thats fregin awesome  :thumb:
I agree with Blue05, replace the head lamp bulb with something whiter.
as far as illegal... i don't see why. if it is just get a maching GSXR 1000. then you don't have to worrie  :)
or
contact the MSF, im sure they could tell you.
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: dgyver on December 08, 2006, 01:21:57 PM
Typically, any blue light on a non-law enforcement or non-emergency vehicle is illegal, depending on your location of course. The police in SC use blue lights and is illegal for anyone else to use them. Also, It would not surprise me that any light of any color considered a distraction could be illegal.

Personally, I think neons look like crap. But then I am not the one riding your bike.
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: scottpA_GS on December 08, 2006, 03:40:52 PM
Quote from: dgyver on December 08, 2006, 01:21:57 PM
The police in SC use blue lights and is illegal for anyone else to use them.

:laugh:

In PA Volunteer Firemen use blue lights. When I moved to SC for school I didnt know the cops there use only blue (here its red and blue).. Anyway a cop was following me in a camaro for over 3 miles.. he called for backup and everything.. I had no idea he was a cop.. just thought it was a fireman who forgot his lights were on  :thumb: He let me go  :bowdown:


Anyway... Nice lights  :thumb: I know here in PA you cant have them.. But lots of the harley guys have em and just leave them on while they are parked outside the bar  :thumb:
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: pandy on December 09, 2006, 10:12:17 PM
Hmmm....I wonder if purple lights are legal. ;)  One reason I like the LEDs is because of the increased-visibility factor. Another is that I just like the LED bling!  :laugh: :thumb:
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: starwalt on December 10, 2006, 04:21:04 PM
Forget the LEDs, what you really need are the negative field generator diodes. They create a phased buffer around the bike making it invisible to radar.

Oh wait. It's not April yet.  My bad.

Hey Pandy!
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: pandy on December 11, 2006, 09:01:34 AM
Quote from: starwalt on December 10, 2006, 04:21:04 PM
Forget the LEDs, what you really need are the negative field generator diodes. They create a phased buffer around the bike making it invisible to radar.

Oh if only this were true....  :dunno_white:

Hi, starwalt!!!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: will1025 on January 05, 2007, 07:28:54 PM
looks hott just order a set of  6 bars with 18 leds on each multcolor  cant wait for them to come in  i kno there
illeagal in nj and in most other states but who cares chew  down the 50 dollar ticket it look hott
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: Smokebombb on January 06, 2007, 12:14:11 AM
Looks great Raydr.  I've spent some time trying to add lights but I can't figure out how to mount them.

Did you have to drill holes anywhere to mount the lights?  Did the mounting hardware come with some kind of clamp?
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: EdChen on January 06, 2007, 12:28:31 AM
For a smoother glow, you could give electroluminescent wire, they come in all sorts of colors and are flexible as well.  The UV protected ones say that they're good outdoors. http://www.vibelights.com/elwirebyfoot.html  It's cool stuff regardless.

Ed
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: ledfingers on January 09, 2007, 03:59:20 AM
red and blue, red only and blue only are all illegal in CA. Technically illegal to have the neons/leds period, but most cops won't bother you unless they are reflected in a manner that can hinder other people's visibility. aka, aimed to the ground and not red or blue, you're safe in cali.
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: Egaeus on January 09, 2007, 10:01:43 AM
Quote from: starwalt on December 10, 2006, 04:21:04 PM
Forget the LEDs, what you really need are the negative field generator diodes. They create a phased buffer around the bike making it invisible to radar.

Oh wait. It's not April yet.  My bad.

Hey Pandy!


You know, I haven't investigated it thoroughly, but I don't see why an array of infrared LEDs at the proper wavelength wouldn't make you "invisible" to laser detectors by blinding the device.  I don't know of any laser frequency that is regulated by the FCC.
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: starwalt on January 09, 2007, 11:09:54 AM
Sounds like the radar jamming ideas of the last 20 years. From a purely investigative prespective you have an interesting point. Could one do such a thing?  :dunno_white:

I do not know what the laws of various states are that concern interfering with law enforcement hardware in the course of their work. I heard the stories of the uber-gadget made by the clever geek who was pulled over. The LEO couldn't figure out how he did it and the story has various endings.   :bs:

I think that real-time video analyis is so good now that any countermeasure other than complete invisibility is short lived. Numerous are the times I have been scoped by a traffic officer and my multiband radar/lazer detector never burped. What were they using? He was pointing a gadget at me and looking through it.

Go figure.   Keep thinking "What If?" though. It oftens opens doors to new places.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: Egaeus on January 09, 2007, 12:32:36 PM
Quote from: starwalt on January 09, 2007, 11:09:54 AM
Sounds like the radar jamming ideas of the last 20 years. From a purely investigative prespective you have an interesting point. Could one do such a thing?  :dunno_white:

I do not know what the laws of various states are that concern interfering with law enforcement hardware in the course of their work. I heard the stories of the uber-gadget made by the clever geek who was pulled over. The LEO couldn't figure out how he did it and the story has various endings.   :bs:

I think that real-time video analyis is so good now that any countermeasure other than complete invisibility is short lived. Numerous are the times I have been scoped by a traffic officer and my multiband radar/lazer detector never burped. What were they using? He was pointing a gadget at me and looking through it.

Go figure.   Keep thinking "What If?" though. It oftens opens doors to new places.  :thumb:

He was probably using marks and a stopwatch.  Pretty old idea, and hard to detect.  I don't know what all is out there these days.  Each has their weaknesses.  Unfortunately, jamming radar is an expensive proposition since the radar bands are regulated by the FCC.  Violations can get much more expensive than a traffic ticket. 

Laser, OTOH, seems pretty straightforward, if you can find a suitable diode.  The devices measure the difference in the time it takes for a signal to bounce back, i.e. it measures the speed of light and most police ladar operates at 904 nm.  I couldn't find diodes in that frequency in my very brief search though, only lasers.

Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: will1025 on January 09, 2007, 04:07:22 PM
i  jst put a simlar kit on bike  only mine has like 20 differnt colors to choose from   
it is illegal in NJ  and i think in most place but its only a 50 dollar ticket so it wont hurt u that much and
it looks nice
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on January 09, 2007, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: Egaeus on January 09, 2007, 12:32:36 PM
He was probably using marks and a stopwatch.  Pretty old idea, and hard to detect.

From what I've read, VASCAR now has a system in the car where they simply input the known distance, click start, and click stop. The computer does all the work. It's a neat system.

For anyone who doesn't know, the white stripes painted on the highway let cops catch you speeding.
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: RVertigo on January 09, 2007, 06:36:26 PM
In WA, the state patrol does NOT need to catch you on radar...  They do not need to use any device, marking, or timer...  They do not need to pace you or see you in traffic...


In order for WA S.P. to issue you a valid (nearly impossible to fight) speeding ticket they must simply do one thing:  See you speed.

They are trained to be able to estimate a vehicle speed within 5 MPH...  One of the times I was pulled over for speeding the city officer (non S.P.) told me all about it.  She told me that she couldn't issue me a ticket because she didn't catch me on radar, even though she knew I was speeding...  She told me how fast I was going when I passed her.  She was under by 3 MPH...  But, my speedo could have been wrong too.   She also told me that State Patrol does NOT need to use a radar...  This was reenforced once in traffic court.  Someone was trying to get out of a S.P. speeding ticket because the officer would not show the driver the radar gun.  The judge told the guy that WA State Patrol does NOT need to use a radar gun.   :o


I only hope they were both lying...   :oops:
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: cerius on July 02, 2007, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on January 09, 2007, 06:36:26 PM
In WA, the state patrol does NOT need to catch you on radar...  They do not need to use any device, marking, or timer...  They do not need to pace you or see you in traffic...


In order for WA S.P. to issue you a valid (nearly impossible to fight) speeding ticket they must simply do one thing:  See you speed.

They are trained to be able to estimate a vehicle speed within 5 MPH...  One of the times I was pulled over for speeding the city officer (non S.P.) told me all about it.  She told me that she couldn't issue me a ticket because she didn't catch me on radar, even though she knew I was speeding...  She told me how fast I was going when I passed her.  She was under by 3 MPH...  But, my speedo could have been wrong too.   She also told me that State Patrol does NOT need to use a radar...  This was reenforced once in traffic court.  Someone was trying to get out of a S.P. speeding ticket because the officer would not show the driver the radar gun.  The judge told the guy that WA State Patrol does NOT need to use a radar gun.   :o


I only hope they were both lying...   :oops:

Well I hope that is wrong, but one of my friends was speeding and drunk with my sister and he got pulled over since he was going around 120 and the cop took him away but when they got to the police department his alcohol content was under .08 and they didn't have any record of him speeding since he was going so fast so they had to let him go. He was a very lucky guy. So I am assuming they do need evidence for a ticket, unless this whole story was a lie to pass time but I don't see that happening he was a very crazy guy.
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: blue05twin on July 02, 2007, 02:55:34 PM
laser jammers are already out.  Have one on my mustang.  Never thought of mounting one to my bike.   hmmmmm
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: pbureau69 on July 02, 2007, 04:57:18 PM
Quote from: will1025 on January 05, 2007, 07:28:54 PM
looks hott just order a set of  6 bars with 18 leds on each multcolor  cant wait for them to come in  i kno there
illeagal in nj and in most other states but who cares chew  down the 50 dollar ticket it look hott

ya just real drunk /stoned ? caus'lik yur sphelline is not so Hot, yanowhat'I meen?
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: frankieG on July 02, 2007, 06:37:12 PM
led engine lights...ugh...i smell fish again of the invertebrate kind
Title: Re: Added Blue and White LEDs
Post by: scottpA_GS on July 02, 2007, 07:31:59 PM
Way to bring back the dead thread  :thumb: