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Title: choke on the gs
Post by: rob1bike on December 19, 2006, 06:04:38 AM
I'm about to rejet the carbs on my 2001, thanx srinath.
And I like to totally understand things before I take em apart.
The choke and the gs is it a true choke? Or is it a inrichment leaver? Now the 2001 has a midmain, that's the choke jet or inrichment jet, it adds gas to help it start... A true choke has a butterfly that seals off some.
Am I even close?


Oh yeah merry christmas!

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Title: Re: choke on the gs
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on December 19, 2006, 09:31:45 AM
I'm 99.9% sure that I read here that the choke is an enrichment valve, and is actually its own jet, not a true choke. But wait for a guru to chime in.
Title: Re: choke on the gs
Post by: rob1bike on December 19, 2006, 09:51:14 AM
I'm 99.9% sure your right... I'll keep waitn....nick, did you heel up ok from your dismount?
Title: Re: choke on the gs
Post by: scratch on December 19, 2006, 10:45:45 AM
It is an enrichener, and has its own passages; no jets involved at all.  It draws directly from the floatbowl.
Title: Re: choke on the gs
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on December 19, 2006, 12:11:27 PM
Quote from: rob1bike on December 19, 2006, 09:51:14 AM
I'm 99.9% sure your right... I'll keep waitn....nick, did you heel up ok from your dismount?

Yep, I'm 99.9% normal again. Well, whatever passes for normal with me, anyway.
Title: Re: choke on the gs
Post by: wever411 on December 19, 2006, 12:54:31 PM
So the choke on the gs adds extra gas to the engine instead of limiting the amount of air that is getting in?
Title: Re: choke on the gs
Post by: scratch on December 19, 2006, 02:27:53 PM
Yes.

The idea is that the gas sacrifices itself to seal the rings, and increase compression, until the rings get warm enough to seal properly.
Title: Re: choke on the gs
Post by: rob1bike on December 19, 2006, 03:39:28 PM
So scratch, does it flow through the mid main? I'm about to rejet a 01 and I wanna make sure I have all I need. I've got a jetkit from srinath, were both thinkn that the mid is a choke jet abd can be left. Wathcha think?
Title: Re: choke on the gs
Post by: Egaeus on December 20, 2006, 07:45:55 AM
Quote from: scratch on December 19, 2006, 02:27:53 PM
Yes.

The idea is that the gas sacrifices itself to seal the rings, and increase compression, until the rings get warm enough to seal properly.

How noble!

Seriously, I came here to answer, but it was already answered
Title: Re: choke on the gs
Post by: scratch on December 20, 2006, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: rob1bike on December 19, 2006, 03:39:28 PM
So scratch, does it flow through the mid main?  I'm about to rejet a 01 and I wanna make sure I have all I need.  I've got a jetkit from srinath, were both thinkn that the mid is a choke jet and can be left.  Wathcha think?
Honestly, I don't know the '01+ carbs, but almost all carbs do not draw gas for the enrichener circuit from any jets.

See if you can trace the passages from the mid-main to the enrichener circuit.  Pay attention to tunnels and plugs where the manufacturer would drill holes for the passages, and see if they intersect.  I doubt it.  It wouldn't be a mid-main if that's the case.

To confirm that it is a mid-main jet for carburetion purposes, look to see if it has a hole going directly to the venturi (you can either see it from the mouth of the carb, or the intake side, a little hole, or series of holes (like 3, in a triangle), over where the mid-main would be located, or you can remove the mid-main and see if you can look through the cavity to a hole into the venturi).
Title: Re: choke on the gs
Post by: scratch on December 20, 2006, 11:14:03 AM
Not to mention that a mid-main that actually supplies the venturi, would decrease the effectiveness of the enrichener circuit.  (Same jet supplying two circuits; that little hole upstream of the [closed] butterfly valve, doing nothing as gas is trying to be sucked from a higher orifice...)

Kinda defeats the purpose...