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Title: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 12, 2007, 01:59:01 PM
These have actually been the newest projects.  The Aermacchi has been around a few weeks, just haven't done any work to it.

(http://www.photoartclub.net/bow/finnished1.JPG)

(http://www.photoartclub.net/bow/finnished2.JPG)

(http://www.photoartclub.net/bow/finnished3.JPG)

(http://www.photoartclub.net/bow/finnished4.JPG)

(http://www.photoartclub.net/bow/finnished5.JPG)

(http://www.photoartclub.net/bow/finnished6.JPG)

(http://www.photoartclub.net/bow/finnished7.JPG)

(http://www.photoartclub.net/bow/finnished8.JPG)

I built both from red oak.  The green one is backed with kevlar and is 70" nock to nock.  It's a "traditional" english-style longbow.  It pulls 72lbs at 30"...I had to shave the hell out of it to get it that low.  When I started she wanted to pull over 140lbs...waaayyyy too stout for me.  The next one I build will be closer to 100lbs but it'll take me a while before I can even draw that.  70lbs is about my cut-off for accuracy and repeat firing.  It's stained in green dye I rendered up from alfalfa hay and grain alcohol haha.  I love the green.  The draw on it is almost perfect, too.  The lower limb does pull a little more than the upper, but it's easy to compensate for when shooting.

The brown one is backed in fiberglass and is 64" nock to nock.  It's an american longbow/flatbow cross.  It pulls about 50~55lbs at 30" and is the first successful bow I've build.  One of my favorites ever, though.  I call it a rushbow because I built it in less than 4 hours all together.  I think it's a great project for an idle sunday or if you want to do something all craft-like with your kid.  I thas a lot of flaws, though...mostly that it hinges real bad on the upper limb.  The lower limb pulls real nice.  I won't touch it again with the drawknife, though...it works fine as is so I'll shoot it till it breaks.

I've also started fletching my own arrows but I'll only make field shafts at the moment.  Store-bought arrows are made for centerfiring bows so they don't work well with mine, but they do well enough if I'm actually wanting to hunt.

...anyway...
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: scottpA_GS on February 12, 2007, 02:26:47 PM
Your next project should be patching your coat  :icon_mrgreen: Hehe..

Cool bows  :thumb:
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: Stephen072774 on February 12, 2007, 02:28:27 PM
osage orange is native to your area, much better wood for bows than oak...
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 12, 2007, 02:30:30 PM
dude there isn't an osage tree within 200 miles of me.  Only natural good woods we got here are bodark, hickory, and elm.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: Stephen072774 on February 12, 2007, 02:35:41 PM
osage orange is a bodark, horse apple...
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 12, 2007, 02:38:03 PM
really?  didn't know that.  I am working bodark...I've got 6 72" posts in the shop to be split up.  Stuff does not cut well, though.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: Stephen072774 on February 12, 2007, 02:44:02 PM
yeah, the indians used it for bows... cool project, I've made a few myself.  Wish I had one worthy of bow fishing.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: Jughead on February 12, 2007, 03:01:34 PM
Quote from: scottpA_GS on February 12, 2007, 02:26:47 PM
Your next project should be patching your coat  :icon_mrgreen: Hehe..

Cool bows  :thumb:


Looks like the Same Size Hole I burnt in Mine.Hey mak you Haven't Caught yourself on Fire Cutting Rebar with a Grinder have you? :laugh:
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 12, 2007, 04:21:51 PM
haha the coat works for work...all the holes are results of battery acid.  a good carthart can't just be thrown away.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: dgyver on February 12, 2007, 05:27:46 PM
At least your coat matches your project bike.  :laugh:

My neighbor bow hunts deer. Much more respectable than using a rifle.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: Alphamazing on February 12, 2007, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: dgyver on February 12, 2007, 05:27:46 PM
My neighbor bow hunts deer. Much more respectable than using a rifle.

Psh, real men use their bare hands to kill dear. Wrestle them down to the ground and snap their necks.

Hurrrrrrr
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 12, 2007, 05:43:30 PM
Anyone want a warbow?  Someone wants me to make them a 100+ pound english longbow...I have to buy material enough to make two or three of them, though haha.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: annguyen1981 on February 12, 2007, 06:45:38 PM
YES!!!

:laugh:
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 12, 2007, 07:21:51 PM
I don't really get the impression that you can draw a 100lb bow, an.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: annguyen1981 on February 12, 2007, 07:32:47 PM
Quote from: makenzie71 on February 12, 2007, 07:21:51 PM
I don't really get the impression that you can draw a 100lb bow, an.

SHUT IT MAK.

Here's proof...

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3880/bowld9.png)


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Honestly, I've never even tried a bow, so I'm not sure of the proper stance, arm position, etc...
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 12, 2007, 07:43:54 PM
what the f%$k is that?  A bow-tie?
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: jake42 on February 12, 2007, 08:35:04 PM
Cool bows Mak. My father-in-law and I have the plans to build some longbows. Since he just retired On Friday, maybe we'll actually have the time to build them now, after we finish his house of course.  Someday I'll post pics of that damn house.  The basement is high enough for a basketball hoop or a climbing wall.

Jake
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 12, 2007, 08:49:03 PM
Hey...basements have four walls!  You can do one of each!
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: jake42 on February 12, 2007, 09:17:05 PM
We laid 20 courses of 12 inch block when we were doing the foundation, but after the floor joists above and the concrete was poured, we were down to about 18. Although he did put in the cool under floor radiant heating system. 
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: skoebl on February 12, 2007, 11:27:38 PM
Quote from: makenzie71 on February 12, 2007, 07:43:54 PM
what the f%$k is that?  A bow-tie?

He drew a 100lb bow......tie.  :laugh: :laugh:

For once he was quite witty  :laugh: :cheers:
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: SmartDrug on February 12, 2007, 11:42:17 PM
Wanna make a buck? How much to build a nice looking 70-100 lbs bow for my father in law?
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 13, 2007, 12:09:15 AM
Doug, I just quoted someone on the very same thing and it'll run around $215, including a half dozen arrows spined for the bow.  This for an 84" bodark, oak, or yew bow (whichever I can get easiest) backed in rawhide that will draw between 85 and 125 pounds at 30 inches.  I can also back it in carbon fiber/kevlar for an additional $45, but it's not as nice on the eyes as traditional materials.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on February 13, 2007, 12:33:40 AM
Quote from: annguyen1981 on February 12, 2007, 07:32:47 PM
Quote from: makenzie71 on February 12, 2007, 07:21:51 PM
I don't really get the impression that you can draw a 100lb bow, an.

SHUT IT MAK.

Here's proof...

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3880/bowld9.png)


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Honestly, I've never even tried a bow, so I'm not sure of the proper stance, arm position, etc...
and maks reply will [prolly be (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/yamahonkawazuki/557px-Male_right_middle_crop.jpg)
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on February 13, 2007, 12:37:49 AM
Quote from: makenzie71 on February 12, 2007, 08:49:03 PM
Hey...basements have four walls!  You can do one of each!
ehhh my basment has somewhat mroe than 4 walls  O0
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: RVertigo on February 13, 2007, 01:56:47 PM
Quote from: scottpA_GS on February 12, 2007, 02:26:47 PMYour next project should be patching your coat  :icon_mrgreen: Hehe..
I think that project can wait until after he gets a "man's" haircut.   :laugh:
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 13, 2007, 02:02:27 PM
haircuts cost $13/2~3 weeks.  That's more expensive than cable in my area.  I'll probably not get it cut until I get married next year...and then I'll probably not cut it again until the next social event in which appearance makes a shaZam!.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: RVertigo on February 13, 2007, 03:31:09 PM
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?pid=00821862000

:thumb:
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 13, 2007, 04:23:40 PM
I use to have one of those and they suck.  Plus I'd rather spend the $15 on food.  As far as self-grooming goes, I prefer stainless surgical scissors, and I use them when the "mullet" starts to make itself known (I hate mullets).  The rest though...meh.  I don't care.  It ties back neatly when I need it out of the way and it sure keeps my head warm (I get to spend 3-4 hours in 10* weather tonight lotting and feeding cattle).
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on February 13, 2007, 04:49:07 PM
I know I'll get mocked for this.. but my hair is a good bit longer than Mak's.. I'll see if I can find pics..

(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/hair1.jpg)
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/hair2.jpg)
(http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gtg445y/hair3.jpg)

The first two were taken in the car on the way to formal this weekend. In the third, I had thrown a tortilla chip into a friend's beer, and I was trying to retrieve it.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: RVertigo on February 13, 2007, 05:06:38 PM
You're pretty NGFL...  Funny, I always thought you were a guy.

Kinda harry, but that's nothing some creative waxing wouldn't handle.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on February 13, 2007, 05:08:21 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on February 13, 2007, 05:06:38 PM
You're pretty NGFL...  Funny, I always thought you were a guy.

Kinda harry, but that's nothing some creative waxing wouldn't handle.

haha.. f%$k you.  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 13, 2007, 05:20:27 PM
not a contest but mine's longer.  Mine is donation length...which is another reason I don't get it cut.  I like to donate my hair...when I can keep it from being set ablaze.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on February 13, 2007, 05:27:52 PM
Quote from: makenzie71 on February 13, 2007, 05:20:27 PM
not a contest but mine's longer.  Mine is donation length...which is another reason I don't get it cut.  I like to donate my hair...when I can keep it from being set ablaze.

See, I want to donate to locks of love. But they require 10 inches PAST a ponytail, and I don't have that yet, that was my original intent when I wanted to grow it out. But now I'm getting my old job back, and they require the hair be above the collar on men, no ponytails, no exceptions. Which I personally feel is stupid.. but whatever.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 13, 2007, 05:32:56 PM
You may feel it's stupid but you have to understand that as an employee you personally represent your employer in public.  Having long hair means you are either a hippy, a stoner, a punk, a homo or a nuerotic and it's bad business to advertise that you happily hire hippies, stoners, punks, homos and nuerotics.  Public perception IS business.

Having long hair can also mean you're a biker, which means you're a hippy, stoner, punk, nuerotic, rapist, drunk, wreckless, wife-beater, moron and/or hillbilly.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on February 13, 2007, 05:43:48 PM
Quote from: makenzie71 on February 13, 2007, 05:32:56 PM
You may feel it's stupid but you have to understand that as an employee you personally represent your employer in public.  Having long hair means you are either a hippy, a stoner, a punk, a homo or a nuerotic and it's bad business to advertise that you happily hire hippies, stoners, punks, homos and nuerotics.  Public perception IS business.

Having long hair can also mean you're a biker, which means you're a hippy, stoner, punk, nuerotic, rapist, drunk, wreckless, wife-beater, moron and/or hillbilly.

Haha, I understand I represent my employer. But I'm also a big believer in not judging people on appearances. I also have piercings, which are against company policy (understandably). However, I don't think people should let that cloud their perception of me. I'm still a good salesman. I averaged 80-90K in sales a month, which is well above average.

Hell, I went in on my day off, in street clothes, with all my piercings, etc, and started a conversation with a customer. Ended up with a $3K sale, just cuz she liked the way I talked to her, and my knowledge about the product. So while I understand their point of view about hair, I don't think it's justified or fair.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: RVertigo on February 13, 2007, 05:45:38 PM
Long hair just means you're too lazy to cut it...

Lazy hippies.

I had long hair once...  But, then I realized that I'm a guy.   :laugh: :laugh:

No, really...  I had to cut it for a job and found that I much prefer shorter hair.  If my wife would let me shave it short, I would (yes, I know I'm whooped)...  1/4" hair may look silly, but it always looks the same sort of silly...  And you can wash it in 0.0004 seconds.   :thumb:
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: Alphamazing on February 13, 2007, 05:49:14 PM
Hey Nick, I think I see your bike falling over in the background of that second picture.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 13, 2007, 05:49:41 PM
yeah I know...plus I hate having to brush my hair and waiting for the shaZam! to dry.  Can't say it's a lazy thing because people with longer hair put a whole hell of a lot more work in it.  I'm too cheap to cut it.  I'd rather spend another $1 every month for soap then the stupid prices hair cuttin' joints want.  I think the last cut I actually got was close to $20.  Stupid.  I wish we had a barber shop around here...hair-joints - scam artists.  Barbers are awesome.
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: RVertigo on February 13, 2007, 05:53:06 PM
There used to be a $8 barber by my old house...  They'd give you a standard "guy" haircut and trim up any facial hair...  $8 and 15 min.   :thumb:

Now they have "Stylists" working there...  $18 and 30 min...   :dunno_white:

I have my buddy's ex-GF cut my hair...  She doesn't charge much more than SuperCuts and I don't have to explain things in "English-to-Foreigner Sign Language." :dunno_white:


Hmm...  That sounded kinda like something a bigot would say... :icon_confused:
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 13, 2007, 05:56:05 PM
f%$k the bigots...if they can't talk to me they don't get my business (except this one deaf lady in Cleveland, TX...$7 cuts).

I wonder if there's like an online list of barber shops....hmmmm....
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: annguyen1981 on February 13, 2007, 08:48:52 PM
I would love to cut my hair shorter, like an inch or so, but my hair naturally stands on end...

Having bed hair in the morning really looks like a mohawk...  even with longer hair (maybe around 3-5 inches)
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: makenzie71 on February 13, 2007, 08:50:05 PM
hey this thread was supposed to be about my bows...bunch of thread-jackin bastards...
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: Jughead on February 14, 2007, 01:24:37 AM
I tried Long Hair before but I wound up looking like this. O0  :laugh: :laugh: Hey Mak what do you expect from a bunch of thread Jacking Bastards. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
My Dad was wanting me to get a job with him at the Ski Slope with Him so we could ride back and Forth to work with each other but the Policy there is No Beard.Not even a Mustache.I've only Shaved my Mustache one time in my Life and I almost went Crazy and I'm not going to work in the Brutal Sub Zero Conditions without my Beard. :mad:
Title: Re: I lied to you all...
Post by: RVertigo on February 14, 2007, 01:03:40 PM
Quote from: makenzie71 on February 13, 2007, 08:50:05 PMhey this thread was supposed to be about my bows...
Your bows are just as lame as your haircut. :flipoff:

OK... I'll try to change the subject back to bows... :icon_rolleyes:


Are you an Elf?  Are you going to disappear with your magic cloak?  Do you have to roll your Dexterity to shoot an ogre?


:laugh: