http://pantablo500.tripod.com/pablosgs500page/id50.html
super easy swap thanks to Ken (werase643).
Awesome. that I can handle. Now to find a rear wheel locally. EBay gets too much!
Ya, I have a feeling that 88-89 GSXR 750 rear wheels will be in premium on ebay for a while ;)
Thanks Pablo. Now I guess I'll be able to get some radials after this project :mrgreen:
DANG it NAZI-boy
I hate it when you edit out the good smart-assed comments.....
a 20 minute discussion on how to install a ZX600 3.5 x 16....just for chin shaZam! rock tires.....cause they are cheap.
Pablo's site rocks. I win something every time I go there!
Me to. I am Weiner :)
Guys, I don't understand why the GS's rear rotor can't just be swapped onto the Gixxer wheel. Isn't the bolt circle diameter, etc. exactly the same? Slightly confused. :mrgreen:
me me me....I know this!!!!!
I'll answer this....
the GS has 4 bolt pattern....GSXR has 5
Ah so. I get it. There must be a bigger rotor you can use though, no? I mean having only half the pads contact is ... uncool. Bad karma. Lacking mojo. :?
being as most your braking power is in the front anyway, 1/2 pads isnt all bad, most i know, let alittle air into their rear brake systems just to prevent un intended lockups on momentary freakouts.the only time i use my rear brakes is holding bike still at a stop, or when its wet/gravely/sandy road conditions. fact is, i make it a point to once aweek tap the brake a few times to make sure the piston doesnt seize.
Ok couple questions, Which sprocket do you use? GS500 or GSXR? Also which thru bolt do you use?
Got my wheel now just need to find a cheap pilot sport for the rear.
Quote from: JasonBOk couple questions, Which sprocket do you use? GS500 or GSXR? Also which thru bolt do you use?
Got my wheel now just need to find a cheap pilot sport for the rear.
Its on the link-first post, this thread...
It doesnt say for either, it does say the GS500 Cush drive but doesnt say anything about the sprocket or which thru bolt to use.
Quote from: JasonBIt doesnt say for either, it does say the GS500 Cush drive but doesnt say anything about the sprocket or which thru bolt to use.
Ah, you're right. Cush drive would make me think you'd use the gs sprocket but Ken will have to chime in to be sure.
use all GS parts except the center spacer...... and the gsxr rim/rotor
it's in the read on pablo's site....unless he edited more than I thought
I read the conversion....
this should go after # 9......
"NOTE: The center bearing spacer on the GS500 is 9mm shorter than the GSXR center spacer. Also, it is 17mm I.D. and the GSXR spacer is 20mm I.D."
pablo added this....(for some reason....a 160 might fit with the 4.5 rim...I have not tried it....I have a supply of 150 tires....there is probably room for a 160....but i don't care :mrgreen:)
"This is the best way to install a 150 tire on a GS. A 160 is too wide for the chain/tire/brake stay clearance."
ok, how much out of a question is mounting a GSXR 750 swingarm? how hard to lineup the chain using stock spacers for 750.
Quote from: JasonBIt doesnt say for either, it does say the GS500 Cush drive but doesnt say anything about the sprocket or which thru bolt to use.
a gs hs a 17mm axle....gsxr 20mm...
a gs has a 520 chain....gsxr 530 chain...
Quote from: Blueknytok, how much out of a question is mounting a GSXR 750 swingarm? how hard to lineup the chain using stock spacers for 750.
big pain in the ass....
serious chopping of the swingarm pivot area
having bushings made for the GS pivot axle
hammering the frame behind the foot peg brackets
spacing the foot peg brackets out at least 1/2 inch
have to play with swing arm linkage and shock.....
and a gsxr wheel will bolt right in.....
of course the sprocket alignment will be off
been there...done that....didn't work very well....for me....i think bob had better luck
Thats why I asked I didnt think the GSXR sprocket would work but I dont have the wheel here to compare to stock gs500 stuff. Just gonna make an order thru bike bandit or the other place for the bearings and that spacer washer. Also checking my rear sprocket and chain to see if I need a new one.
Quote from: werase643pablo added this...
"This is the best way to install a 150 tire on a GS. A 160 is too wide for the chain/tire/brake stay clearance."
Actually Ken, YOU sent this in an earlier email to me...long ago. I posted it on the site way back when...then left it when you gave me the full scoop recently. I only bring this up to point out that I
usually dont edit the mod submissions I get and didn't in this case.
I'll try adding the note after #9 real soon...thanks for pointing that out.
hey ya'll
I just looked at my race bike conversion....
the rotor from an early 90's GSXR 750 is closer in diameter to the GS....
I do not remember which one.....
Pablo,
that was when you asked me about the conversion....and i gave you info from memory.....so much for memory....the earlier page had using the GS center spacer....and i was wrong again....
so...I want tomake sure I've got it right...
the conversion instructions are right but I need to add "NOTE: The center bearing spacer on the GS500 is 9mm shorter than the GSXR center spacer. Also, it is 17mm I.D. and the GSXR spacer is 20mm I.D." after step #9 for some reason.
Is that right or do I need to add the 90 gsxr rotor info too?
pablo any gsxr rotor will fit/work....
do a search and find out what one is biggest dia.
i'll keep on using the 89 rotor
the note kinda goes with step 9....
do what ever you want....your site!!!!
Guys, thinking about this, I don' get it. As we all know, it is absolutely critical to keep your chainline perfect, and of course your brake rotor has to be perfectly aligned in the caliper. :nono:
Something seems too good to be true here ... spill the beans, guys! ... how'd ya keep everything in perfect alignment without seemingly breaking a sweat?
Now I'm really interested in trying this, if only because it seems impossible!
hhhhmmm, seems like there now is even more competition........... Now the customer can choose which site he goes to. Pantablo, try to make some sort of navigation so people can find what they`re looking for more easy.
QuoteGuys, thinking about this, I don' get it. As we all know, it is absolutely critical to keep your chainline perfect, and of course your brake rotor has to be perfectly aligned in the caliper.
The chain is a very little bit out of allignment, (with a 160 tyre) but not much. I have this wheel on for about 22.000km. now and my chain lasted till 19.000km. This is normal wear for a chain. Also never had any problems, so I don`t see the problem with a little disallignment, as long as you don`t overtighten the chain. Overtighten the chain can cause serious problems.
Quote from: cruisedaddyGuys, thinking about this, I don' get it. As we all know, it is absolutely critical to keep your chainline perfect, and of course your brake rotor has to be perfectly aligned in the caliper. :nono:
Something seems too good to be true here ... spill the beans, guys! ... how'd ya keep everything in perfect alignment without seemingly breaking a sweat?
Now I'm really interested in trying this, if only because it seems impossible!
it works cause you use all the gs parts!
the chain is exactly where it is suppose to be as referenced from the swing arm on shifter side of bike....
the extra washer is used to center the rotor in the caliper.
it will work without the washer, but the alignment is a little off. I picked up a washer out of a bin and fixed the alignment. NOTHING is PERFECT
impossible....i think not. easy....yes
skill level....
can you remove the rear wheel?
can you remove/install wheel bearings?
can you operate a hack saw?
then you can do this swap!
Quote from: JorisPantablo, try to make some sort of navigation so people can find what they`re looking for more easy.
If only to have more time...my site will stay as is. Easy for me to add pages that way and not too difficult for those not too lazy. I like the fully expanded menu of items on the side...its free, it takes little of my time, seems good to me!
When you install a 160 tyre and use shims to push the gear more outwards, the chain is a little out of alignment.