I was wondering if anyone knows how labor intensive it is to put a buell x1 tail section on a gs......From what I have seen of the pictures online it almost looks like......cut off the gs tail section and bolt it on :icon_confused:... so whats the word on the street anyone know?
Do you have to fab/reinforce anyting?
Check it out....
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/toxiic05/new.jpg)
Uhh, and what do you make of those massive welds holding the brackets to bolt it to?
sorry looked more like body work and futher more i have seen it done on others and they didn't do it like that
It looks massively uncomfortable too.
lol yea however i would put a seat on it
Hmm , My r6 tail Will be Bolt On as it is , So Theres No Huge Welds Or Nout , And The fact u cant weld Alu to steel ,
Then Using The stock Piece of fairing , cut and modded to make it more flush
:D:D
i like the angle of that tail tho ,
looks ghetto
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/toxiic05/SBR66_Jim.jpg)
there's extensions on there at least on the bottom (read: Weld) and I'm not sure on the top..
I guess I will go to the local harley dealer and try to get some measurements off an x1 they have there......anyone else want to chime in???
As Some One Did . Its Simple Enough To Bolt On A Rear End, But With In Reason , Eg , Will It Match Up , I didnt Even Think Of That , And Bought A r6 00' Rear ., Then We Went To Dummy Mount It , Turns Out Its Pretty Much Perfect, Don;t Not How To Explain It , But The 2 Bars That Come From The Main Bit Of The Frame , On The r6 Rear , It Lines Up Fine , Now Its A Case Of Cutting And Reshapping The Front Seat To My Tank , But Im Sure Ill Get It :D
I Like That Look Tho
did you but the entire r6 rear end....the tail frame section, undertail and seat? I would like to see some pictures of that.....Back to the buell tail section... It looks really close in the pictures, I am sure worst case I would have to weld some sort of bracket to the existing/remaining gs frame to get it to fit....
Yep The Whole Thing , As It Had The Light , Indicator, Rear Foot Rests, Both Seats , Battery Tray , Everything , Got It For 150 quid
300 Dollars Of Ebay , The Bloke Said It Was Priced Up At Yamaha At 850 Quid, Wether it True Or Not , I Dont Care
Yea Dude, As The Frames Steel , Gotta Weld Steel Plates Then Bolt Into That .
Yea Its At Paint At The Moment , Getting Ready For It To be Mounted , MetalFlake Blue ... Mhmmm :D
word sounds good.....yeah everything I would need for the buell set up is on ebay ...seat, tail section, and the plastic undertail. I think it looks alot cleaner that the stock setup..... and so what if its just a gs500. Everyone has crotch rockets :icon_lol: how many people have you actually seen in your travels (in real life) with a gs with a buell or r6 tail :o... not as many as the other. But hey.
Thats Basicly , Why I Want To Do It , You See R1, Gsxr , Blades.. All The Same ,
A Modifyed gs . Wouldnt even no its a gs when im done ,
:D:D
Mines Gonna be So Trick , Like . Oh Is It haha
Btw ,Buying Plastics , or just a seat ,. means the subframe has to be modifyed , and u have to sort out lights, wiring , all the stuff ,
Buy The Rear End , Bolt It On... Simple :D
yeah if i can get it for a deal on ebay I am def going to hit it up....I'll keep everyone posted...in my project forum....A friend of mine said he could make me up whatever sort of gusset/mounting I needed for the frame and weld it on.... so
Quote from: gstwizzle on May 01, 2007, 03:58:39 PM
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/toxiic05/SBR66_Jim.jpg)
dude....how is that even comfortable? that seat will be in your ass.
I'm guessing about as comfortable as riding any crotch rocket.....
servus,
to fit the buell x1 rear, you must cut the gs rear frame. then you must put new steel rear ends on the gs frame.
looks like here:
(http://www.gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/oldgallerybikes/aom.jpg)
and here:
(http://www.gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/oldgallerybikes/normal_amj.jpg)
did you weld the new steel ends to the main frame? Or could you make some sort of additional brackets off the remaining gs tail section?
Quote from: gstwizzle on May 01, 2007, 11:06:32 PM
I'm guessing about as comfortable as riding any crotch rocket.....
No way, the angle is all wrong. That setup looks completely unrideable to me, at least for anything more than a 5 min. cruise down the boulevard. It's cool as a trophy, but I wouldn't want it for my only bike.
Honestly you should look at the new buell XB's the tail section angle is def. that steep. And as I said earlier, think of all the crotch rockets out there..... don't try to tell me that is a first class comfort ride.
The angle above looks better for riding on one wheel then two :thumb: :cheers:
Quote from: gstwizzle on May 02, 2007, 02:40:23 PM
Honestly you should look at the new buell XB's the tail section angle is def. that steep. And as I said earlier, think of all the crotch rockets out there..... don't try to tell me that is a first class comfort ride.
Are you joking? You're trying to tell me that this:
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/toxiic05/SBR66_Jim.jpg)
Would be just as comfortable as this?:
(http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/2006/BuellXB12Ss/sunset.jpg)
or even this:
(http://www.cmsnl.com/news/img/2007-CBR600RR-Red.jpg)
Look at the angle of the seat ... on the chopped GS you're sitting right in the crook of a very sharp V, that's going to be painful. Even the CBR, which has almost no padding in the seat, at least has a level, contoured surface.
Well if I go through with the mod I ll let you all know what the good word is. :o
You guys need to learn who Jim is... And.. you need to respect him :bowdown:
He doesnt just build these GS's to sit and show .. He rides them! Not just 5 miles.. He rides them HUNDREDS of miles. :thumb: If anyone here in the US could even come close to Jims GS designs I would be amazed... Comfy or not.. If I could, I would ride one of Jims creations cross country and back just to have the pleasure :thumb:
Sport bikes arent made to be comfy, they are made to look cool and go fast. If you want a comfy bike; buy a Goldwing with heated seats, cup holders and a nav system :flipoff:
Again Jim :cheers: Keep up the AWESOME WORK !!!
Thank you...:cheers:
Quote from: tussey on May 01, 2007, 08:31:04 PM
Quote from: gstwizzle on May 01, 2007, 03:58:39 PM
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/toxiic05/SBR66_Jim.jpg)
dude....how is that even comfortable? that seat will be in your ass.
servus,
it was very comfortable for ME!
@scottpA_GS: Thanks. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Do still currently have this bike in this form...or was it transformed into the eightball?
Jim Knopf Where did your rear sets?.... Or where is a good place to pick up a set of after market rear sets?....
Jay_wolf...Yeah the wiring and lights will have to be done, but redoing the rear end just opens it up for alot more possibilities. Anything looks better than the GS square box tail light sticking out like a sore thumb!! :o That really should't be that big of a deal anyway.
Quote from: gstwizzle on May 03, 2007, 11:33:01 AM
Jim Knopf Where did your rear sets?.... Or where is a good place to pick up a set of after market rear sets?...
servus,
the rear sets are from a Honda CBR900 SC50! 8)
looking on ebay!
Hey.... thanks...
Were they a direct bolt on deal, or was modification reguired?
Quote from: gstwizzle on May 04, 2007, 09:52:23 AM
Hey.... thanks...
Were they a direct bolt on deal, or was modification reguired?
servus,
look here:
(http://www.gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/userpics/11027/normal_knopf3.jpg)
cool thanks....
I actually have another question for you....Did you use the stock X1 seat with the buell tail section? I am guessing you had to shave it some.
servus,
yes, i´ve used the stock X1 seat. modified in the front sektor.
Jim if your out there this question is for you..... I got the x1 tail section.... I have my rear tail section all chopped off.....To mount it they way i want it i had to cut out the old battery box support.... I was just wondering if you also did this? and if so what did you do in its place.... Did you just weld a new plate to relocate it?
Wish i could weld, might have to look for a welding kit and learn , hmm
Quote from: gstwizzle on June 01, 2007, 09:05:46 PM
Jim if your out there this question is for you..... I got the x1 tail section.... I have my rear tail section all chopped off.....To mount it they way i want it i had to cut out the old battery box support.... I was just wondering if you also did this? and if so what did you do in its place.... Did you just weld a new plate to relocate it?
servus,
i´ve built a new batterybox for a smaller scooterbattery, thats all! :icon_mrgreen:
(http://www.gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/oldgallerybikes/aom.jpg)
You said in another post that the rear wheel on there was a 6.25.... How did you go about shimming out the fronts sprocket for the wider rear tire? And what bike did you get this particular swingarm off.???
Thanks :icon_razz:
I think its the 1200 Bandit Swingarm , with a 6.25 inch rear wheel fitting a 200 tire
So how did work then ..... I thought the biggest rim you could put on it was a 4.5 or 5 in wheel.
O and I will have pics of the tail section mounted tomorrow night.....I had a friend help me with the welding... he brought over his MIG welder and about half way through the first tab.... we ran out of wire?!?!?!? :flipoff: O well
That bike is BADASS looking... nice stuff Jim!!!!!
Quote from: gstwizzle on June 03, 2007, 04:28:22 PM
You said in another post that the rear wheel on there was a 6.25.... How did you go about shimming out the fronts sprocket for the wider rear tire? And what bike did you get this particular swingarm off.???
Thanks :icon_razz:
servus,
yes it was a 6,25 x17 wheel with 200/50-17. it was a modified gsxr wheel.
the front sprocket was an offset! see here:
(http://www.gstwins.com/photogallery/albums/userpics/11027/normal_Grafik2.jpg)
the swingarm was original Bandit1200, only polished.
Jim.Where did ya find the off set sprocket?Getting ready to do a 88 gsxr 750 swing arm swap and using a 4.5 bandit 600 wheel.Any advice on this set up?Thanks.You do great work.Wish I had the talent for coming up with cool ideas.Guess I don't have an imagination.
Quote from: ben2go on June 04, 2007, 07:05:44 AM
Jim.Where did ya find the off set sprocket?Getting ready to do a 88 gsxr 750 swing arm swap and using a 4.5 bandit 600 wheel.Any advice on this set up?Thanks.You do great work.Wish I had the talent for coming up with cool ideas.Guess I don't have an imagination.
servus,
when you take the gsxr swingarm and the 4,5 bandit wheel, you don´t need a offset sprocket.
only by using 5,5x17 and bigger! 8)
Quote from: Jim Knopf on June 05, 2007, 03:01:51 AM
Quote from: ben2go on June 04, 2007, 07:05:44 AM
Jim.Where did ya find the off set sprocket?Getting ready to do a 88 gsxr 750 swing arm swap and using a 4.5 bandit 600 wheel.Any advice on this set up?Thanks.You do great work.Wish I had the talent for coming up with cool ideas.Guess I don't have an imagination.
servus,
when you take the gsxr swingarm and the 4,5 bandit wheel, you don´t need a offset sprocket.
only by using 5,5x17 and bigger! 8)
Thanks Jim. You are the man.
So I finally got the mounts welded, holes drilled and the tail section mounted..... the pictures are in my build forum ..... Its called Spring Project .....CHECK IT OUT O0
gstwizzle!!!!! I'm watchin you man!Between Jim and you,I'm ready to start cuttin my bike up. :bowdown:
pictures are up