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Title: shiften
Post by: FearedGS500 on May 07, 2007, 05:53:53 PM
so i'v been playing around with shifting with out the cluch ... its so much easyer . and alot more fun ! just thought i'd let you guys know my enjoyment on my gs :)
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: spc on May 07, 2007, 06:05:19 PM
yup no clutch is fun :thumb: :thumb: shifting down without it can sometimes prove tricky :icon_rolleyes:  Some jackass at my local shop said you can snap shift forks doing that .  i'm pretty sure he's just retarded though :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: bluelespaul on May 07, 2007, 06:15:37 PM
i down shifted today without the clutch by accident. it kinda scared me haha
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: spc on May 07, 2007, 06:33:40 PM
I downshifted without clutch in a sharp curve once :o  I think I shaZam! myself :o :o
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 07, 2007, 06:34:41 PM
Quote from: spcterry on May 07, 2007, 06:05:19 PM
yup no clutch is fun :thumb: :thumb: shifting down without it can sometimes prove tricky :icon_rolleyes:  Some jackass at my local shop said you can snap shift forks doing that .  i'm pretty sure he's just retarded though :laugh: :laugh:
actually he wasnt AND you can however pretty much only if you force teh bejeebus outta it :thumb:
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: spc on May 07, 2007, 06:37:11 PM
Well I assumed if you just jam the shaZam! out of it, it would....... But by manipulating throttle to take pressure off the gear allowing it to shift easily without clutch, I just dont see it happening :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 07, 2007, 11:41:23 PM
^^^what he said^^^ :thumb:
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: RVertigo on May 08, 2007, 11:48:12 AM
I down shifted without the clutch once...  I hit a huge bump and my foot went down on the shifter.  It made the nastiest noise....  *shiver*
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: spc on May 08, 2007, 10:43:14 PM
Yeah it's not a kind noise :o :o
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: nightrider on May 09, 2007, 12:56:05 AM
I know this has been discussed on a similar thread recently but:

with clutchless upshifting I can only get it to do it when I rev really high (8k or so) and let it drop off suddenly. Then it kicks into the next gear and 'catches' with a jerk (lurching the bike a little) that doesn't seem so smooth. How is it more properly done and can you get it REALLY smooth?
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: Affschnozel on May 09, 2007, 05:22:33 AM
You need to ease off the throttle before upshift/downshift  as said before to unload the gears
and of course road speed must match selected gear or it won't be smooth at all :o

Title: Re: shiften
Post by: FearedGS500 on May 09, 2007, 08:45:34 AM
yes it can be done smooth .  you or i can put it in the next gear at about 7k . but i like to do it best at 9k  you get it up there let off the throttle real fast shift get back on it . pretty smooth fast ... and fun .
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: spc on May 09, 2007, 08:50:07 AM
You just gotta practice at it until you get the feel of your gearing :thumb: :thumb:  I think most of the clutchless shifting I do is smoother than with a clutch.  I can upshift anywhere from 2.5k up with no real sudden drops in rpms to make it happen.  You just need to back some of the pressure off not a lot :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: RVertigo on May 09, 2007, 11:24:08 AM
I can shift faster and smoother without the clutch when I'm accelerating quickly...  If I'm putting around, I use the clutch.

If you're hard on the throttle, put up pressure on the shifter and quickly let off the throttle, then get right back on it...  Like a "blip," but in reverse...  Or something...
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: spc on May 09, 2007, 11:38:06 AM
I hate to do this because it's agreeing with an old asshat :laugh: :laugh: :flipoff: :flipoff:  But yeah what RVert said :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: RVertigo on May 09, 2007, 11:53:35 AM
You don't hate to do it...  You love me. :kiss3:
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: spc on May 09, 2007, 10:45:06 PM
I wouldn't go that far......but if I'm ever clear across the damn country I'll buy ya a beer :cheers: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: nightrider on May 10, 2007, 12:22:07 AM
I still cant do it smooth.

1) I rev HIGH and let it drop off... nothing. The bike lurches with the strain and dropoff of acceleration.

2) I rev it HIGH even more abruptly, and give the shifter a little more pressure (2-3 lb upward force). It shifts abruptly, making a cracky noise and jerking me forward, doesn't sound or feel too good.

Do you let the throttle off completely before shifting?
Title: Re: shiften
Post by: RVertigo on May 10, 2007, 01:03:39 AM
It's like a blip...  But, it's a blip down, not up.......   Hang on, lemme see if I can find the thread.........

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=18823.0