i bought mine for $1350 and eventually traded it in on a boulevard C50.
im keeping the bullie but ive been on the lookout for another GS just cause i want one, and there are almost never any up for sale.
guess i was a dipshit to trade mine in.
No one want those pieces of junk.
Investing in a Yugo instead. WELL worth it. :laugh:
I'll sell you mine.
i dun wanna drive to kansas.
i should have said "cheap, old, but running great GSs in washington DC metro area".
i shouldnt have let mine go.
Quote from: jdanna on May 07, 2007, 11:24:31 PM
i dun wanna drive to kansas.
i should have said "cheap, old, but running great GSs in washington DC metro area".
i shouldnt have let mine go.
:laugh:
Give it time. And honestly, don't hold out just for a GS. You could potentially find a great deal on another bike that has just about the same appeal. Seriously, everything that people love about the GS...the SV, EX500 and Bandit600 do better. Just keep your eyes peeled!
-Turd.
booooo .. i think turd has be come anti-GS :o . theres nothing like a small bike to take out the big bikes and make them go ! :o :o :o
Quote from: FearedGS500 on May 08, 2007, 05:36:04 AM
theres nothing like a small bike to take out the big bikes and make them go ! :o :o :o
I'm telling you, there are other bikes that are better at that than the GS (ex: EX500).
*donning flame suit*
-Turd.
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on May 07, 2007, 11:27:25 PM
Quote from: jdanna on May 07, 2007, 11:24:31 PM
i dun wanna drive to kansas.
i should have said "cheap, old, but running great GSs in washington DC metro area".
i shouldnt have let mine go.
:laugh:
Give it time. And honestly, don't hold out just for a GS. You could potentially find a great deal on another bike that has just about the same appeal. Seriously, everything that people love about the GS...the SV, EX500 and Bandit600 do better. Just keep your eyes peeled!
-Turd.
Nope ... not the EX and maybe the naked SV, but not the 1/2 fairing SV. The ER650 may.
However I'll add a few to ths list ... most of which fit the UJM or cruiser category though.
Cool.
Srinath.
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on May 08, 2007, 06:14:55 AM
Nope ... not the EX and maybe the naked SV, but not the 1/2 fairing SV. The ER650 may.
However I'll add a few to ths list ... most of which fit the UJM or cruiser category though.
Ah hah! I forgot about the ER-6N (Ninja 650R here in the States). Add that one to the list.
-Turd.
i like the 650r a lot
ex500 is ugly tho
While the GS is very popular with the newbie crowd that hates the looks (or price) of the EX500 and SV650, it's really not THAT popular of a bike... Dealerships generally only get a handful of them...... So, they're harder to find used. THEN you add in that it's a newbie bike, which may mean that people may not know how to take care of them properly or may have crashed them... Even harder to find.
They're pretty damn hard to find in Seattle too....... The EX500 is MUCH easier to find, although I agree that it's ugly as hell. :dunno_white:
And jdanna, trading in you GS is not the reason you're a dipshit. Sheesh. You shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
I have one in Fairfax. '89 I traded Srinath for. "Great" is relative :)
ok .. you keep saying that the ex is so much better then the gs ... why not give the pros and cons of the two . the only real thing i see as a major factor . is it has a few more hp and its water cooled ..................................and be sides ... it puts the FUG in fugly ......
Quote from: MrDan on May 08, 2007, 02:39:14 PM
I have one in Fairfax. '89 I traded Srinath for. "Great" is relative :)
is it for sale?
Quote from: MrDan on May 08, 2007, 02:39:14 PM
I have one in Fairfax. '89 I traded Srinath for. "Great" is relative :)
You didn't sell it last year ??? i thought you were buying a hawk or something.
You were also supposed to maintain this one ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Quote from: FearedGS500 on May 08, 2007, 04:28:14 PM
ok .. you keep saying that the ex is so much better then the gs ... why not give the pros and cons of the two . the only real thing i see as a major factor . is it has a few more hp and its water cooled ..................................and be sides ... it puts the FUG in fugly ......
The EX500 has superior engine (4 valves,liquid cooling,498cc =>60 hp at the crank) but it has finicky chain drive from the crank to the input shaft
remnant of the GPZ900 engine which half of it is sourced from
The GS on the other hand has a superior stiff frame, the input shaft is gear driven and as all know with some suspension mods it becomes a true sportbike
it might give 8-10 hp to EX so what...it's a more stable corner carver and that's where the fun is :thumb:
Oh and it's more bulletproof.............and cheap ;)
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on May 09, 2007, 05:34:28 AM
Quote from: MrDan on May 08, 2007, 02:39:14 PM
I have one in Fairfax. '89 I traded Srinath for. "Great" is relative :)
You didn't sell it last year ??? i thought you were buying a hawk or something.
You were also supposed to maintain this one ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Yeah - I ended up spending my time riding it. Then with the wedding/new house/now getting laid off ...
It's in good shape - just running a little rough - I have a feeling you'd be able to fix it in less than an hour - I'm just at a loss as to where to start :)
Quote from: jdanna on May 08, 2007, 05:36:01 PM
Quote from: MrDan on May 08, 2007, 02:39:14 PM
I have one in Fairfax. '89 I traded Srinath for. "Great" is relative :)
is it for sale?
Unfortunately - it is for sale. I'd love to keep the thing forever - just not feasible if I want something else.
Quote from: Affschnozel on May 09, 2007, 05:53:29 AM
The EX500 has superior engine (4 valves,liquid cooling,498cc =>60 hp at the crank) but it has finicky chain drive from the crank to the input shaft
remnant of the GPZ900 engine which half of it is sourced from
I've never really heard that the chain drive has caused any real problems though? Either way, the motor is far more advanced.
Quote from: Affschnozel on May 09, 2007, 05:53:29 AM
The GS on the other hand has a superior stiff frame, the input shaft is gear driven and as all know with some suspension mods it becomes a true sportbike
it might give 8-10 hp to EX so what...it's a more stable corner carver and that's where the fun is :thumb:
Oh and it's more bulletproof.............and cheap ;)
How is the GS more bulletproof than the EX? The EX is an extremely reliable bike from everything I know. Also, you can upgrade the rear shock and forks on any bike, including the EX. They can both be made to handle extremely well. Also, the EX is not really any more expensive than the GS.
All things being equal (modifications) between an EX and a GS, the EX will always be a faster machine. That's all I'm saying. I don't own one, and don't plan to. I love my GS, but you guys are way too defensive!
-Turd.
Mr dan - Here is a lazy man's carb cleaning method.
Open the carbs drain screw and let the fuel run out. Then take off the drain screw completely, close the bottom spout with your finger and shove in the tube from the carb cleaner into the spot you took the screw out from. Spray and close the screw hole with your thumb immediately. 1-2 mins later, let it drain. Repeat for the other carb. Repeat 2-3 times or more if you still see dirty or rusty run off.
See what that does.
Also check valves, air filter and vacuum leaks.
Cool.
Srinath.
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on May 09, 2007, 07:50:11 AM
Mr dan - Here is a lazy man's carb cleaning method.
Open the carbs drain screw and let the fuel run out. Then take off the drain screw completely, close the bottom spout with your finger and shove in the tube from the carb cleaner into the spot you took the screw out from. Spray and close the screw hole with your thumb immediately. 1-2 mins later, let it drain. Repeat for the other carb. Repeat 2-3 times or more if you still see dirty or rusty run off.
See what that does.
Also check valves, air filter and vacuum leaks.
Cool.
Srinath.
Problem is - I'm going to need to find my manual to do that - not sure why I have such a mental block against this stuff - can't visualize what you're saying (though I understand the concept).
Quote from: Affschnozel on May 09, 2007, 05:53:29 AM
Quote from: FearedGS500 on May 08, 2007, 04:28:14 PM
ok .. you keep saying that the ex is so much better then the gs ... why not give the pros and cons of the two . the only real thing i see as a major factor . is it has a few more hp and its water cooled ..................................and be sides ... it puts the FUG in fugly ......
The EX500 has superior engine (4 valves,liquid cooling,498cc =>60 hp at the crank) but it has finicky chain drive from the crank to the input shaft
remnant of the GPZ900 engine which half of it is sourced from
The GS on the other hand has a superior stiff frame, the input shaft is gear driven and as all know with some suspension mods it becomes a true sportbike
it might give 8-10 hp to EX so what...it's a more stable corner carver and that's where the fun is :thumb:
Oh and it's more bulletproof.............and cheap ;)
I'm sorry but I don't really see liquid cooling as being a sign of a "superior" engine. More technologically advanced, yes. But a properly designed air-cooled engine cuts down on an entire engine system with moving parts and fluids and hoses and gaskets that can break/dry rot/leak. I'll give up a few horsepower just to avoid the maintenance issues of a liquid cooling system!
Well how many miles did you ride it. Cos if you rode regularly and not let it ferment over winter, this is not your problem. Tank was coated, its not going to get crudded up unless it had 6 months of sitting.
You come up on its next valve interval. Ride it 3-3500 already ???
Feel like comming to NC ?? I can show you how, again and do it this time while you videograph it.
Cool.
Srinath.
Quote from: Sicarii on May 09, 2007, 08:26:05 AM
Quote from: Affschnozel on May 09, 2007, 05:53:29 AM
Quote from: FearedGS500 on May 08, 2007, 04:28:14 PM
ok .. you keep saying that the ex is so much better then the gs ... why not give the pros and cons of the two . the only real thing i see as a major factor . is it has a few more hp and its water cooled ..................................and be sides ... it puts the FUG in fugly ......
The EX500 has superior engine (4 valves,liquid cooling,498cc =>60 hp at the crank) but it has finicky chain drive from the crank to the input shaft
remnant of the GPZ900 engine which half of it is sourced from
The GS on the other hand has a superior stiff frame, the input shaft is gear driven and as all know with some suspension mods it becomes a true sportbike
it might give 8-10 hp to EX so what...it's a more stable corner carver and that's where the fun is :thumb:
Oh and it's more bulletproof.............and cheap ;)
I'm sorry but I don't really see liquid cooling as being a sign of a "superior" engine. More technologically advanced, yes. But a properly designed air-cooled engine cuts down on an entire engine system with moving parts and fluids and hoses and gaskets that can break/dry rot/leak. I'll give up a few horsepower just to avoid the maintenance issues of a liquid cooling system!
The EX has the shittiest intake valves in the world.
It also has a super shitty oil pan design and is thin thin thin walled to boot.
That's all I know about it.
Cool.
Srinath.
Quote from: Turd Ferguson on May 09, 2007, 07:45:15 AM
How is the GS more bulletproof than the EX? The EX is an extremely reliable bike from everything I know. Also, you can upgrade the rear shock and forks on any bike, including the EX. They can both be made to handle extremely well. Also, the EX is not really any more expensive than the GS.
All things being equal (modifications) between an EX and a GS, the EX will always be a faster machine. That's all I'm saying. I don't own one, and don't plan to. I love my GS, but you guys are way too defensive!
Yes,but after suspension upgrade EX's frame can't cope as well with the added traction and twitches under heavy cornering
And the chain drive whines and rattles after some miles on the engine
But I agree it's faster in top speed and acceleration
And not being defensive,just a lot of people think little of the little GS and they shouldn't ;)
Quote from: MrDan on May 09, 2007, 07:02:42 AM
Quote from: jdanna on May 08, 2007, 05:36:01 PM
Quote from: MrDan on May 08, 2007, 02:39:14 PM
I have one in Fairfax. '89 I traded Srinath for. "Great" is relative :)
is it for sale?
Unfortunately - it is for sale. I'd love to keep the thing forever - just not feasible if I want something else.
price? pictures? details?
Quote from: jdanna on May 09, 2007, 04:43:35 PM
Quote from: MrDan on May 09, 2007, 07:02:42 AM
Quote from: jdanna on May 08, 2007, 05:36:01 PM
Quote from: MrDan on May 08, 2007, 02:39:14 PM
I have one in Fairfax. '89 I traded Srinath for. "Great" is relative :)
is it for sale?
Unfortunately - it is for sale. I'd love to keep the thing forever - just not feasible if I want something else.
price? pictures? details?
PM me your email - can't post pix from work - took some this morning.
Quote from: Sicarii on May 09, 2007, 08:26:05 AM
I'm sorry but I don't really see liquid cooling as being a sign of a "superior" engine. More technologically advanced, yes. But a properly designed air-cooled engine cuts down on an entire engine system with moving parts and fluids and hoses and gaskets that can break/dry rot/leak. I'll give up a few horsepower just to avoid the maintenance issues of a liquid cooling system!
:thumb:
I don't suggest anyone call up Pratt and Whitney to tell them liquid cooling is "superior". They've managed without for the better part of a century. The P&W R-2800 is considered by many to be one the the most reliable spark ignition engines ever built.
(http://www.kensaviation.com/engines/R-2800.jpg)