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Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: gs5oh on July 23, 2003, 11:24:57 AM
what exactly does one do, and wasn't a member here doing them for free??
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: tmckay on July 23, 2003, 11:50:19 AM
http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1239&highlight=ignition+advance


I asked the same question :)  If that link doesn't work, do a search for "ignition advance"; look for a thread started by klimber.

Trev
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: J-Lo on July 23, 2003, 01:48:34 PM
Nothing is FREE.  I hope you aren't close to your left arm....cuz that's what you need...   :bs:

Look around...there are 3000 posts on I.A.'s...
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: pantablo on July 23, 2003, 02:04:12 PM
Quote from: J-LoNothing is FREE.  I hope you aren't close to your left arm....cuz that's what you need...   :bs:

Look around...there are 3000 posts on I.A.'s...


Wont cost you that much-just your stock one in exchange-Bob Broussard may have to start charging a small fee if the demand gets out of control but for now he's been doing them for free (with core exchange).
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Bob Broussard on July 23, 2003, 10:55:44 PM
I've raised my price to $5.00 for shipping and handling.
I've got one ready with 2 more to mod. Contact me with your mailing address and I'll ship one out.
Then when you get it you can put your stock rotor and 5 bucks in the box and send it back to me.
:)
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: gs5oh on July 24, 2003, 06:13:28 AM
before laughing, remember that i am new to the motorcycle world.
how hard is it to take out my rotor???
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: cruisedaddy on July 24, 2003, 08:12:05 AM
> how hard is it to take out my rotor???


Joe it is the very acme of simplicity and takes 105 seconds working at a leisurely pace.  Just take off the magneto cover (the RHS thing that says "SUZUKI"), unscrew the nut holding the exising rotor on (the metal thing, right there in the center!), pull it off, put the new one on, tighten the nut back down (a dab of loctite would not be a bad idea) engage the pin and tighten it up).  Then just put the cover back on.  I seriously doubt there are many things you could to your bike that are easier.  Polishing the gas tank is more difficult!   :cheers:
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: pantablo on July 24, 2003, 09:11:36 AM
very very simple...

http://www.gstwin.com/ignition.htm
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: st-185gt on July 25, 2003, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: Bob BroussardI've raised my price to $5.00 for shipping and handling.
I've got one ready with 2 more to mod. Contact me with your mailing address and I'll ship one out.
Then when you get it you can put your stock rotor and 5 bucks in the box and send it back to me.
:)

Hey Bob, do you mind shipping to Toronto Canada how similar is this to the V&H advancer?

thx!!
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Rashad on July 25, 2003, 03:18:35 PM
Hey bob i pmed you. I have an extra one, so if you can send me one i can send you the stocker and 5 bucks. :cheers:
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: cgreenland on July 25, 2003, 08:27:04 PM
bob, i pm'ed you too.  i hope you're not swamped in requests...
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Bob Broussard on July 25, 2003, 11:31:57 PM
I am getting kinda swamped with requests. I only have 3 rotors right now. They're spoken for.
So until I get the exchange rotors I won't have any more for a few days. If someone wants to send their rotor and have me modify it, I could do that. I don't mind sending to Canada or any where else, it may cost more for shipping of course.
Also, I screwed up and deleted my personal messages by mistake.
I remember someone named Chris contacted me. Please contact me again Chris.
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Bob Broussard on July 25, 2003, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: RashadHey bob i pmed you. I have an extra one, so if you can send me one i can send you the stocker and 5 bucks. :cheers:

Rashad
If you could mail the extra rotor to me, I could modify it and send it back. Otherwise I have to wait for some other ones to show up. That will take at least a week from Monday when I send the 3 I have now. My address is;
Bob Broussard
761 Alvarado Dr.
Salinas, CA. 93907
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Bob Broussard on July 25, 2003, 11:45:48 PM
Quote from: st-185gt
Quote from: Bob BroussardI've raised my price to $5.00 for shipping and handling.
I've got one ready with 2 more to mod. Contact me with your mailing address and I'll ship one out.
Then when you get it you can put your stock rotor and 5 bucks in the box and send it back to me.
:)

Hey Bob, do you mind shipping to Toronto Canada how similar is this to the V&H advancer?

thx!!

The rotor is modified to match the V&H advancer. There are a couple options. If you can spare the rotor, you can send it and I'll modify it and send it right back.
Or you can wait until I get some exchange rotors for the ones I am sending out, then send yours in exchange. Let me know and I'll give you my address.
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Joris on July 26, 2003, 06:38:14 AM
Read all about it on my site, the modification section. There is also a manual on how to do it if you can`t get your hands on an ignition advancer. Good luck!
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Rashad on July 26, 2003, 02:00:03 PM
Quote from: Bob Broussard
Quote from: RashadHey bob i pmed you. I have an extra one, so if you can send me one i can send you the stocker and 5 bucks. :cheers:

Rashad
If you could mail the extra rotor to me, I could modify it and send it back. Otherwise I have to wait for some other ones to show up. That will take at least a week from Monday when I send the 3 I have now. My address is;
Bob Broussard
761 Alvarado Dr.
Salinas, CA. 93907

Excellent! youll be gettin a rotor from me! :thumb:
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Rashad on July 28, 2003, 04:50:18 PM
Hey bob, kinda dumb question..but do you need just the rotor? or the whole assembly that it goes into with wire harness etc?
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: cgreenland on July 28, 2003, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Bob BroussardI am getting kinda swamped with requests. I only have 3 rotors right now. They're spoken for.
So until I get the exchange rotors I won't have any more for a few days. If someone wants to send their rotor and have me modify it, I could do that. I don't mind sending to Canada or any where else, it may cost more for shipping of course.
Also, I screwed up and deleted my personal messages by mistake.
I remember someone named Chris contacted me. Please contact me again Chris.

that was me, bob.  i just pm'ed you again...
thanks!
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Bob Broussard on July 28, 2003, 07:38:20 PM
All anyone needs to send is the rotor only.

I sent the 3 rotors out today (Mon.). The good guy/Jbix/Dond6
I have more addresses written down for the next batch. Howeman/Gs5oh/Cgreenland.
Srinath is sending his rotors first so I can modify them. Rashad will do the same. The only address missing is ST-185gt. If there's anyone else let me know.
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Piper5177 on July 28, 2003, 07:44:34 PM
What is Bob spelled backwards?

You are the man Bob! :thumb:   By the way, how is the race bike doing?
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Bob Broussard on July 28, 2003, 08:23:06 PM
I dismanteled the motor and cleaned out the bits and pieces.
I cut extra clearence in the pistons so the valves won't hit.
Drilled the missing oil hole in the Carrillo rods. Now I'm going to have the whole setup balanced again. The cylinder was dinged up, so I need to bore another one. Sent a rocker arm to Megacycle cams to be hardened. Bent one out of 4.
Then I need to cut down another gsxr head and do all the mods.
I'm going to get a fresh blade for my bandsaw right now and get to wittlin.
I figure in a couple weeks it should be up and running.
Had to scramble and put another 2 valve motor together for Thunderhill. That made for a long week. Come home from work around 9:30 pm and work on the motor until 1:00am. I was dragging ass by the time I got to the track. 100+ degrees didn't help any.
Went to a restaurant with some friends Sat. night. You'd never find this place if a local didn't show you. Had a 5 course dinner with a 22oz NEW YORK STEAK !!
That brought me back to life.
Finshed 5th in 450 superbike that was red flagged because of crashes.
Had a great 500 twins race.
AND WON!!! Boy I needed that if I'm gonna take the championship.
Still behind by 7 points, but the new motor will make things easier.
Can't wait to unvail the secret weapon. THERE GONNA FREAK  :nana:
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Black Snowman on July 28, 2003, 08:33:43 PM
Is the process for modifying the rotor posted anywhere? I could likely do it myself and save you the trouble and me the down time :) Even if I can't I might go the "modify the plate" route which I know is well documented.
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Rashad on July 28, 2003, 08:38:37 PM
Quote from: Bob BroussardI dismanteled the motor and cleaned out the bits and pieces.
I cut extra clearence in the pistons so the valves won't hit.
Drilled the missing oil hole in the Carrillo rods. Now I'm going to have the whole setup balanced again. The cylinder was dinged up, so I need to bore another one. Sent a rocker arm to Megacycle cams to be hardened. Bent one out of 4.
Then I need to cut down another gsxr head and do all the mods.
I'm going to get a fresh blade for my bandsaw right now and get to wittlin.
I figure in a couple weeks it should be up and running.
Had to scramble and put another 2 valve motor together for Thunderhill. That made for a long week. Come home from work around 9:30 pm and work on the motor until 1:00am. I was dragging ass by the time I got to the track. 100+ degrees didn't help any.
Went to a restaurant with some friends Sat. night. You'd never find this place if a local didn't show you. Had a 5 course dinner with a 22oz NEW YORK STEAK !!
That brought me back to life.
Finshed 5th in 450 superbike that was red flagged because of crashes.
Had a great 500 twins race.
AND WON!!! Boy I needed that if I'm gonna take the championship.
Still behind by 7 points, but the new motor will make things easier.
Can't wait to unvail the secret weapon. THERE GONNA FREAK  :nana:

HAHA~! :thumb:  BOB is definitely THE man!! I nominate for you a custom title..hmm... how about..

"Motor-mender-GS-Defender"... or "Gixxer Killa'-GS-Zilla"

Hmm.. ill try later. :oops:
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Bob Broussard on July 28, 2003, 09:11:31 PM
Quote from: Black SnowmanIs the process for modifying the rotor posted anywhere? I could likely do it myself and save you the trouble and me the down time :) Even if I can't I might go the "modify the plate" route which I know is well documented.

The tab on the CA rotor is wider than the other. So it needs to be cut down. Other states don't need this step. Then I weld the slot on the bottom of the rotor. I cleanup the surface with a carbide end mill so it is flat. Then I make a new hole for the crank pin with a 3mm 2 flute end mill. The most critical part is locating the spot for the new pin hole.
I have a rotary table mounted on my milling machine. On the rotary table I mounted a 3 jaw lathe chuck. I put marking dye on the chuck and made marks using a V&H rotor. Then I just put the stock rotor in and line things up.
Even then I've had things shift a little. So I've had to reweld the hole and redo it. The slightest thing will knock it off 2 or 3 degrees. It could still be done with a drill press and vise if you wanted to give it a try.
I used a V&H rotor to set things up though, so I can't give you specific measurements.
If you have the 12-28 rotor (non CA.) slotting the pickup plate holes and rotating it will do the job. CA bikes can't get the full benefit from that mod though.

Hey Rashad, not a bad idea.
I was gonna get GSX500R stickers made. Maybe I'll call it GS-ZILLA.  :)
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: mrslush50 on July 28, 2003, 09:24:02 PM
Bob:

you race against gixxers?
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Piper5177 on July 28, 2003, 09:25:39 PM
If you go with GSX500R, you'll need to get a set of full race fairings. :mrgreen:

BTW:  Congrats on the win, only two more to go!
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Bob Broussard on July 28, 2003, 09:32:19 PM
First off. I don't race against GSXRs. Just during practice. And I still outrun alot of them. But that's because they can't ride them.
I built a GS motor with a GSXR head. Just like the one from Cedrick Smith in the port Rider article. But mine isn't a 650.

I don't want to hide the work I've done. Then I'll look like all the rest. So no full faring.
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Rashad on July 28, 2003, 10:30:57 PM
Hey bob im gonna ship the rotor tomorrow.. I just noticed that there is some rust on it. Is this ok? Its from a 99' motor too.. thanks!
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: pantablo on July 28, 2003, 11:40:36 PM
Quote from: Bob BroussardHad a great 500 twins race.
AND WON!!! Boy I needed that if I'm gonna take the championship.
Still behind by 7 points, but the new motor will make things easier.
Can't wait to unvail the secret weapon. THERE GONNA FREAK

Congratulations! You are da man!


Quote from: Bob BroussardI built a GS motor with a GSXR head. Just like the one from Cedrick Smith in the port Rider article. But mine isn't a 650.

I read about this bike...I have it bookmarked at work. Pretty impressive bike-lots of work went into it and it looks awesome too. I'll link a pic when I get back to work for the rest to drool over...they called it a CSXR650 but I never understood the "C" part...
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: Bob Broussard on July 29, 2003, 08:43:42 AM
CSXR stands for
Cedrick Smith Experimental Racer

I had dinner with James Lickwar and he saw the bike at Portland International Raceway.
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: SoloRider on August 05, 2003, 11:27:40 AM
Hi Bob Broussard,

I happen to live close by you (San Jose). Can I come down to where you are with my bike and will you want to modify the rotor on the fly ?

If you do, please let me have your phone #.

Thanks

Ivy843
Title: IGNITION ADVANCER??
Post by: pantablo on August 05, 2003, 02:00:52 PM
csxr650:

(http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146-0110-500-02-zoom.jpg)

Story:
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_0110_gs500/
Title: Bob Broussard for governor...
Post by: The Buddha on August 06, 2003, 11:26:34 AM
Here is an Idea...

Bob Broussard for governor of California.

How's that...I dont think 65 sigs will take 65 seconds to get, the 3500 might take longer and if there are over 1000 names on the ballot like they hope it will...then you only need every GS twinner in CA to vote for you (easy I think....Pablo dont you get a vote for each post???) and its easy...
Cool.
Srinath.