I'm looking to swap out my twin for a good liquid-cooled 4-cyl that's buildable. Looking to be able to port, bore, balance, and turbocharge. What would be a good engine, and are there any that use the same mounting brakets or will I have to fabricate new ones?
good luck.....
you are embarking on quite an adventure.....
how are your welding skills?
did you take a course in chassis design?
better off installing a giant single !!!!!
at least it will fit in the chassis
this is an oppinion....
:? you will have your work cut out for you :o i am sitting trying to figure out how to install hayabusa (gsx1300r) into gs. guess ill have to fire up autocad and try it on screen first. what i am saying to you is try it on screen first to see if it is feasible. anything is possible, but you will encounter many migraines along the way. if you start, dont quit because you have a s%^&*y day. as they say, there is a first time for everything :thumb: :cheers:
hey yam . i was told that a busa motor was smaller than most motors , is that true?
ok, if you are serious...what engine are you considering....????
there is a guy in NC who will install a busa in a GSXR600/750 chassis....$5000 labor plus a $3000 busa engine....plus your chassis
Quote from: werase643$5000 labor plus a $3000 busa engine....plus your chassis
Um, you can buy a new, '03 gixxer600 for that.
Why not just buy a Bandit 600 or something like it?
Even if you did get somethig to work you still just have a Gs suspension...Gs brakes...
As capable as the GS is it's still an entry level 500/ commuter bike.....
I'd just find a bigger bike (I'd find an F2/F3 CBR 600 as the next step....great bikes)
yeah, i know, id have a gs with the gs handling, but with a way more powerful engine. i know it sounds kinda silly. makes about as much sense as someone sinking 20k into a sub-compact car and never being able to get it back at re-sale time. then again i could always get another gs engine and put it into an atv frame. ya know something different to do. hadnt decided what to do yet. :thumb: :mrgreen:
let the boy play.....
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Um, you can buy a new, '03 gixxer600 for that.[/quote]
and your point is.....
Yes I can weld, and I am good at chassis design. I was also thining about usin the 'busa 1300. I'm not sure why I just don't go out and get a better bike with the money I'd spend upgrading my GS, it must be that 'first bike' attachment thing... also I'm working on a mad full faring for it (http://www.geocities.com/rotary_suzuki/ watch the avi, pics don't do it justice) and don't want my effort to be wasted :P Besides, why do people put motorcycle engines in cars?!?!(darned midget cars) Irrational thinking, ahh, the wonders...
$5k in labor... *snicker* what's he charge, $400 an hour??? or is he just really slow...
Oh yeh, plus i need the GS engine to put on my go-cart frame(mmmm 100mph go cart, imagine the possibilities.... and the tickets for driving it on the interstate!)
Quote from: RotaryTempestBesides, why do people put motorcycle engines in cars?!?!(darned midget cars) Irrational thinking, ahh, the wonders...
um,.... something about power to weight ratio.....
DUH! my point exactly! Unless a new bike weighs less than a GS(heck if i know) oh ya, quick question about that... I see on the frame it says 845lbs or whatever dry weight... but people say it's like 300 some pound bike... I"M CONFUSED!!!! are they talking per wheel? I'm still new to bikes...
i think the gs is 374-384#...somewhere around there
back to that power/weight thing....
a GS engine is a very heavy design.....go kart/4 wheeler....many other, better options.
honda F2 is at the top....old enuf to be cheap, still 90-95 HP
Thanks for keeping me confused werase... is that how much the entire bike weighs? and if so, why does the frame say 800 some?
800+ is with rider/passenger on bike
bike 400
rider 400
kinda GVW thing
Oh BTW what the people have forgotten to mention here is that once you put a different motor in it... its handling will go to shaZam!...Most likely. The running gear strong and over built as it is will not take the extra weight (albeit a few dozen pounds) and extra power and the front suspension...forget it. A GSXR front will barely work on a stock GS, a few extra pounds and double the power and it isn't going to cut it anymore...
In the end you will have a worse handling, heavier, uglier GSXR/hayabrid which breaks more often than the GS or the hayabusa.
Cool.
Srinath.
let him play........
quit killin my dreams!
Well then what about putting a smaller engine in that weighs about the same? a 600 or so? And what do you mean about the front suspension... you didn't emphasise... is it too loose for more power? I can always stiffen/loosen it....
Well I meant general rinning gear to handle the added heft and weight.
I also was talking hayabusa...Now a 600 motor will weight just about as much as the GS's lump but it will be wider a little and have more weight in front beinig canted more forward and having a radiator. So your weight will be near the same but bias will be more to the front. You will need wider wheels for the back for sure and a GSXR USD suspension in front to be able to take the bike back to where it will be rideable but again the thing will be just driveable, not a sharp handling out brake everything stoppie machine. If you find the right 600 and made all the upgrades to the GS frame and swingarm (GSXR swingarm cos the wheel also needs to be right) you probably wont start breaking chassis parts unless you push it hard. There was some racers on the mailing list that used to say ~65 hp is all the stock frame can take before it starts to bend and flex. 600 Repli racers make 100hp+ so you need to upgrade a lot of stuff. Why dont you get one of those radians and start chopping it. I belive it will look less ugly in the end. Now a 600 super sport frame and running gear are up to the task and they handle beautifully. they also have lighter frames than the GS and the end bike you build will be heavier than those. If you must have a naked try to get a R6 or somehting and take its fairing off and see if that can live wiht a naked look. Cheaper and more effective with fewer problems.
Cool.
Srinath.
A Honda XR650R engine (the newer water cooled one) would be a great engine: lighter than the GS engine by more than 40 lbs., 60 hp with just the unrestrictor kit, and smaller than the GS engine too.
But if I could find a XR engine, I wouldn't waste it in the GS chassis. A 250 GP bike frame and the 650 single would be awesome!
Maybe drop a 350 small block in your GS. It takes well to mods and turbos...
I at one time wanted to put in an RZ350 motor in the GS. But then again I hat work and complicated crap. That dont preven me from thinking about fitting it in but I hate doing it. Any way lighter is the way to go and the 60hp sounds good and being a narrow motoe we just use the stock GS rear wheel and fron end unless we do want to upgrade. The RS 250's around here are not street legal. There is nowhere else to ride for me. The GS chassis is the only thing I'd put it in. But that's just me.
Cool.
Srinath.