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Title: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: SmartDrug on June 04, 2007, 11:44:43 PM
I'm a active member of 3 other boards about motorcycling or car racing, much more active on the other ones (1,500+ posts each in less than 2 years) than I am on GSTwins.com (433 posts and have been a member since late January of 2003) and there is a definite trend here that hurts this board and keeps it in it's current crippled form. 

1.  The members on GStwins are remarkably defensive, not just about taboo subjects like abortion or Politics, but about stuff that shouldn't be an issue.  I believe that this stems from the fact that the GS500e/f is a beginner bike and most people on the board in reality couldn't explain countersteering let alone give or recieve any really useful advice on motorcycling.  We have a hobby where you must have a daredevil inside you to get involved in the first place, this gung ho mentality also gives newbies their sense of knowing everything, just like squids riding in sandals thinking they'll never hit the ground.  Look back over the course of the last few years at the members that we've lost along the way due to frustrations that stem from dealing with things like this: GSJack, RoadsterGal, Pantablo, etc.  I've never been more frustrated trying to do something benevolent than when I post on here (not to say that all my posts are on the level, I f%$k up too, get upset and lost my head, no doubt.).  Threads get locked, shaZam! gets thrown out of whack and there's no explanation.

2.  The Moderators do a sub par job, I understand that you have other shaZam! to do, but you volunteered for this position.  You can't start building a house for Habitat for Humanity and say mid way through "f%$k it, I'm tired, sleep outside, I'm out".  If you're going to bother locking a thread, explain why, don't just tie it off.  All that runs us into are situations where the aforementioned frustrations are left without any source to vent to; that's when people just up and quit the board and who does that benefit?  By you "doing your job" and locking threads and killing debates, you're killing the board.

3.  The current separation of the categories is vague and lacking, this leads to topics that drift over the lines and then the mods feel they need to jump in to fix something that could have very well sorted itself out.  I have been posting on ChicagolandSportbikes.com for a bit over a year (1,800 posts) and have only seen a total of 3 threads shut down in that time all of which were related to homosexuality, I am almost certain that this is due to their various thread topics that have, it keeps the potentially offensive material away from people who don't want to see it (i.e. the gun nuts don't offend the liberals because the liberals don't read the stuff in the gun threads.).  Here are a list of some of the various topics that CLSB uses, some of which don't really work here, weekend groups rides and the like, but I have a feeling that dividing the topic up would avoid a lot of headaches.

- Newbie/Welcome forum:  new to the club? looking for your first bike? what ever, come on in and say hello.
- Group Rides:  Use this forum to plan all your last minute or future rides.
- Employment Listings:  This forum is for networking and posting of job opening that you know of to help keep your fellow bikers in the loop on jobs available.
- Open Forum: This forum is for all off-topic discussion.
- The Funny Papers:  got some funny stuff? Make us laugh.
- General Sportbike Discussion: This forum is for discussion of bikes in general.
- General Cruiser Discussion: This is a forum for all you Cruiser owners in the chicagoland area.
- The Ladies Room: A forum dedicated to the ladies of CLSB, For the forum password send a PM to a female Mod (this thread is designed to keep the guys out of the Girls only group ride threads)
- Dirt Bike Alley:From 50's on up, this is the place to chat.
- World news and Politics Discussions:This is the place for all discussions about whats going on in the news and all of those political debates so many of us love to have.
- Polls:  What color should I paint my bike, who's better Rossi or Hayden, who's going to the World Series, etc.
- Photo Gallery:  Feel free to post all sorts of pics in here. One rule: no nudes, or gorry stuff.
Sub-Forums: Hot Woman with Hot bikes
Sub-Sub-Forum: Hot Men with Hot bikes
- The Drag Strip: learn and share, also talk about your favorite drag strips.
- Stunt Talk: a place to talk about stunts
- Traffic Violations Advice Corner: Got screwed lately? Get advise from others that dealt with it.
- Performance and Tech: Use of this forum is designed for performance discussion, as well as "help me fix it" questions.
- Track Talk:This forum is all about discussing riding and setup tips for different types of racetracks. As well as discussion about Nesba trackdays and the local racing scene.
- NESBA: NESBA was designed to get riders off the street and keep them safe by offering opportunities to ride at various racetracks throughout the Northeast, Southeast and Midwest United States Nesba.com
- Motorcycle Racing News: Forum specificly for racing news updates and standings.
- Motorcycles wanted or forsale: This is the place to sell your bike, or pick up a great deal on a used one from one of your fellow members.
- Bike parts and accesories wanted or for sale: This forum is for parts only.
- Non motorcycle related items wanted or for sale: Anything from cars to furniture. post it up in here.
- Trading post: This forum is designed around the idea of paying it forward. Post goods only to be given away or traded for other goods.  This is a great forum for trading motorcycling technique books with other new riders, GSTwins would definitely benefit from this forum if it were used.
- Home Improvement forum: This forum is for the discussion of all things involving home projects, especially kick ass garage remodels.
- Weapons & Hunters Corner: For all your firearms, safety, weapon choice, hunting topic questions.
- Health & Fitness: Talk to fellow members about getting in shape, to diets, to supplements and what does and doesn't work.
- Sports Corner: Here is the forum to talkabout Sports, sports and only sports. The latest lines, scores and sports news.
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- Comments and Suggestions: Comments or feedback on the site? Post it here!
- Testing, Testing 123: This forum is for test posts to check sigantures or anything else you want to test before posting in another forum


Ok, this post has taken me over an hour to compile, so I'm going to post it in the General Forum and maybe it'll generate some responses there as well.  We're a smart group of people in general, we bought (or are curious about) a bike that would allow us to learn how to become decent riders without being over our skill level.  That says a lot about this group.  But we're also thrown into a mess of topics that get muddied by ignorant people (MYSELF INCLUDED) and the end result is the way the forum is today.  I'd compare GSTwins to a crowded bar where you get all sorts of people, inevitably fights and arguments will start but instead of letting them work out their differences like gentlemen or ladies, they're separated and the patrons leave upset and eventually, after it has happened enough, just stop coming to that bar.

Alright, tirade over, thoughts opinions, rebuttal, etc.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: ledfingers on June 05, 2007, 12:48:43 AM
i feel some of your points are well founded. Defensiveness is something that comes with being human. Everyone has their sore spots, everyone has their angry buttons. But i think some of the members here are a bit too jumpy. Now, i may not be a member of as many boards as you (i'm a member with 2 others, mye28.com for my 5er and rkop.com originally because of the musician its for, now more for the people than anything.), but i can completely agree with the fact that things tend to be a little more laid back other places. If we can all agree to not jump on eachother's nuts (or ovaries), splitting the board into a million threads isn't entirely necesary. Might help some, but it might not.

Mods and admins, well, i don't honestly have anything negative to say about them. Perhaps there are ways in which they could improve, but i think the responsibility lies more with members than them. If we behave, they don't have to discipline us.

Thats my take on things. :cheers: Biggest thing is to have people chill out. or make a rant section where you can vent your frustrations until you're blue in the face, and no one needs to feel offended because it'll common knowledge that anything in that section is to be taken with quite a few grains of salt.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: spc on June 05, 2007, 01:01:44 AM
few grains of salt, tequila shot and a percocet :laugh: :cheers:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: ledfingers on June 05, 2007, 01:41:20 AM
i'll do a double jager, thanks. tequila and i don't get along. it makes me get angry.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: spc on June 05, 2007, 01:50:03 AM
last time I drank tequila I chased it with 14 pitchers of beer :icon_rolleyes:
I got very violent at one point and ended up throwing some airman over a balcony rail. I got pepper sprayed and tased :icon_confused: :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on June 05, 2007, 02:08:10 AM
W8
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: ledfingers on June 05, 2007, 02:17:27 AM
good points.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: VTNewb on June 05, 2007, 05:05:19 AM
I think people just board hop until they find the right one for them. I myself love tehdriven for sillyness and Something Awful's automotive insanity for anything important, though SA does have a 10 dollar fee.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: SmartDrug on June 05, 2007, 05:13:25 AM
Wrecent, I implore you to spend 5-10 minutes checking out ChicagolandSportbike and tell me that almost everyone one of those categories doesn't get used on a semi-regular basis.  There are days when health and fitness don't get any posts, but they don't go for weeks at a time without anything. 

I would also submit to you that while we're not paying the bills for GSTwin, without us, there is no board, so we should be able to at least give our opinion.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: VTNewb on June 05, 2007, 05:50:27 AM
Quote from: SmartDrug on June 05, 2007, 05:13:25 AM
Wrecent, I implore you to spend 5-10 minutes checking out ChicagolandSportbike and tell me that almost everyone one of those categories doesn't get used on a semi-regular basis.  There are days when health and fitness don't get any posts, but they don't go for weeks at a time without anything. 

I would also submit to you that while we're not paying the bills for GSTwin, without us, there is no board, so we should be able to at least give our opinion.

I think a real difference between GSTWINS and ChicagolandSportbike is the demographic. People with a sportbike in Chicago googlesearch for Chicago sportbikes and get that, the much much much smaller ammount of people with GS500's google search for GS500 forums and get this.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on June 05, 2007, 05:52:02 AM
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Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: annguyen1981 on June 05, 2007, 05:54:51 AM
I love you guys.  *sniff*

Will you marry me?

*wedding bells ring*
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: manofthefield on June 05, 2007, 06:19:44 AM
I do get frustrated when threads get moved with no explanation.  I think sometimes they're close enough to the subforum's intent that the could just be left, but other time I completely understand why they were moved.  Either way, a brief explanation in the thread would be nice

GStwin is still growing some, like it has been for the last few years.  At one point that meant going from just one forum to 3 or 4 subforums (FAQ was fairly recent).  I think we still do okay with what we have, but as long as there is growth there is potential need for more subforums.  If any sections were to be added, I might go with:

-Newbie/Introductions forum
-Other Motorcycles (Dreaming, upgrading, general repair)
-Other projects/ DIY advice (auto, computer, home...)

and depending on demand from these demographics:
-Ladies section
-Racers section
-Stuntas section
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on June 05, 2007, 06:37:58 AM
I8
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: manofthefield on June 05, 2007, 06:49:32 AM
That's true.  It would be nice to have all the references linked from GStwin.com rather than from random threads in the forums.  I'd say it's up to John, and he's not around very often, so I don't know if that will happen or not.

p.s. there is a pinned thread in the FAQ with a link to Pablo's page
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: natedawg120 on June 05, 2007, 08:42:21 AM
yeah, I don't know how much could be added/changed with what we have now and this still being a free forum.  I havn't had a problem finding things that I personally have needed but there is always room for improvement.  We are still growing but for there to be a massive change/reorganization would be extrememly time consuming.  If new areas were added but nothing was moved into them then it would be easier, still I beleive that bandwidth is going to be the limiting factor for now.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on June 05, 2007, 09:13:08 AM
That and the general PHP coding for GSTwins is rather simple..one thing I would like to see is a Contributing Member identifier under SN's for people who have donated money to the site..thats not a difficult thing to set up
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: RVertigo on June 05, 2007, 11:14:47 AM
Didn't Jarrett (SP?) have a thread like this?
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: Jake D on June 05, 2007, 12:30:02 PM
Dude, you took an hour to do this?  You seriously need to get a life. 
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: bettingpython on June 05, 2007, 12:32:58 PM
Quote from: Jake D on June 05, 2007, 12:30:02 PM
Dude, you took an hour to do this?  You seriously need to get a life. 

That's what I thought  :cheers:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on June 05, 2007, 12:34:16 PM
At least he wasn't whining about stickers  :laugh:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: RVertigo on June 05, 2007, 12:36:30 PM
Quote from: Onlypastrana199 on June 05, 2007, 12:34:16 PM
At least he wasn't whining about stickers  :laugh:
:laugh:  That's what I was thinking...   :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: Jake D on June 05, 2007, 12:43:02 PM
It is a freakin' message board.  Not even the Sixteenth Chapel was perfect. 
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: scratch on June 05, 2007, 12:49:23 PM
Thank you for posting your view, I have read it and appreciate your efforts to help others.  Please, I hope you will continue.

Posters need to remember that when asking for opinions, they are opening up to criticism, but also you gotta understand that this is the internet and to not take other poster's responses too seriously.  Like water off a duck's back, you gotta let things roll off of ya; not take things so personally.  That person doesn't know you personally, and you don't know them; the intentions, or message, of posts can be muddied by typing too fast and/or of leaving out/off words.  Actually taking the time to read, and comprehend, other's posts would help, too.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: Jake D on June 05, 2007, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: scratch on June 05, 2007, 12:49:23 PM
Thank you for posting your view, I have read it and appreciate your efforts to help others.  Please, I hope you will continue.

Posters need to remember that when asking for opinions, they are opening up to criticism, but also you gotta understand that this is the internet and to not take other poster's responses too seriously.  Like water off a duck's back, you gotta let things roll off of ya; not take things so personally.  That person doesn't know you personally, and you don't know them; the intentions, or message, of posts can be muddied by typing too fast and/or of leaving out/off words.  Actually taking the time to read, and comprehend, other's posts would help, too.

What a duck!  Let it go Scratch!!!  Sheesh. . .
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: scratch on June 05, 2007, 01:12:20 PM
You're so being sarcastic...I love you, too.  :kiss3:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 05, 2007, 01:19:10 PM
Quote from: SmartDrug on June 04, 2007, 11:44:43 PM
there is a definite trend here that hurts this board and keeps it in it's current crippled form.
This board has doubled (perhaps tripled) in size in the past couple of years. It has its trends (such as more fights as the weather worsens and folks can't ride). GSTwin might be a bit of a dysfunctional family now and then, but I think it's about as far from crippled as it could be. 

Quote from: SmartDrug on June 04, 2007, 11:44:43 PM
I've never been more frustrated trying to do something benevolent than when I post on here (not to say that all my posts are on the level, I f%$k up too, get upset and lost my head, no doubt.).  Threads get locked, shaZam! gets thrown out of whack and there's no explanation.
If someone doesn't want your advice, move on. Someone else's disagreement or refusal of advice offered isn't a personal affront or an insult. As you yourself have stated, the GSTwin bunch are pretty smart; I doubt there's a thread that's been locked that folks don't recognize why it was locked, though I'm sure there are a few who--sometimes vehemently--disagree with with a thread being locked and/or the reasons behind it.

Quote from: SmartDrug on June 04, 2007, 11:44:43 PM
2.  The Moderators do a sub par job, I understand that you have other shaZam! to do, but you volunteered for this position.  You can't start building a house for Habitat for Humanity and say mid way through "f%$k it, I'm tired, sleep outside, I'm out".  If you're going to bother locking a thread, explain why, don't just tie it off.  All that runs us into are situations where the aforementioned frustrations are left without any source to vent to; that's when people just up and quit the board and who does that benefit?  By you "doing your job" and locking threads and killing debates, you're killing the board.
While I appreciate the comparison to H. for H., we're birds of a different feather. While it would be just ducky if mods could devote 24/7 to watching the board, we absolutely do have lives, and we don't give up those lives when we're invited to volunteer countless hours of our time on an online motorcycle forum. I'm very sorry that you're unhappy SmartDrug, but I'm not exactly sure I'm understanding where all your frustrations and where all of your anger is coming from. The mods do an outstanding job of keeping things running, and my personal opinion is that members leaving or getting fed up has more to do with problem members and tirades than it has to do with any of our fine moderators (myself excluded, of course, because everyone loves to hate on purple  :flipoff: :laugh:).

Quote from: SmartDrug on June 04, 2007, 11:44:43 PM
3.  The current separation of the categories is vague and lacking
john thinks there are too many sections in the forum as it is.... ;)

Quote from: SmartDrug on June 04, 2007, 11:44:43 PM
I'd compare GSTwins to a crowded bar where you get all sorts of people, inevitably fights and arguments will start but instead of letting them work out their differences like gentlemen or ladies, they're separated and the patrons leave upset and eventually, after it has happened enough, just stop coming to that bar. Alright, tirade over, thoughts opinions, rebuttal, etc.
This isn't a bad comparison. GSTwin *is* rather like an internet neighorhood bar. We get all sorts, and we rarely all agree on anything at the same time. But there's also a lot of support, and I rarely see a n00b's question not answered within a day. In fact, every day, members go out of their way to look up answers that they might not know, and then they share how they searched and the answers they got. Every community has natural attrition: people get out of riding, they move to different bikes, they get busy with jobs, girlfriends/boyfriends, school, and riding. Some get clean and sober....  :laugh: I've met folks IRL from GSTwin who'll go MANY extra miles to lend a hand or bail a pal out of trouble. I've made some true friends here. The GSTwin I see is very different from the one you see, SmartDrug, and that truly sucks. I'd love for you to be able to see it as I do, but we're all different, and we all bring different perspectives to the table.

GSTwin isn't perfect (no place can be), but it's a place I enjoy spending time in, learning from others, and sharing my own n00b experiences with new riders.  Plus, I just LOVE this bike, and I just LOVE the majority of the GSTwin members. There are some who rub me the wrong way, just as I do them...and anyone else who's human....  :laugh: Yeah....one big, happy, dysfunctional family...  :laugh: :kiss3:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: scratch on June 05, 2007, 01:20:28 PM
dysfunctional...
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 05, 2007, 01:24:09 PM
Yeah, that's what I said!  :icon_mrgreen: :flipoff: :laugh: :kiss3:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: bubba zanetti on June 05, 2007, 02:08:35 PM
Quote2.  The Moderators do a sub par job, I understand that you have other shaZam! to do, but you volunteered for this position.  You can't start building a house for Habitat for Humanity and say mid way through "f%$k it, I'm tired, sleep outside, I'm out".  If you're going to bother locking a thread, explain why, don't just tie it off.  All that runs us into are situations where the aforementioned frustrations are left without any source to vent to; that's when people just up and quit the board and who does that benefit?  By you "doing your job" and locking threads and killing debates, you're killing the board.

Unfortunatly there is no standard operating procedure on being a mod & how to handle different situations, so I apologise for not meeting your standards, but I do apreciate your criticism & have taken it on board & filed it away for future reference when needed.


BTW scratch how long did it take to type up your reply.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: annguyen1981 on June 05, 2007, 02:55:04 PM
Quote from: scratch on June 05, 2007, 12:49:23 PM
Thank you for posting your view, I have read it and appreciate your efforts to help others.  Please, I hope you will continue.

Posters need to remember that when asking for opinions, they are opening up to criticism, but also you gotta understand that this is the internet and to not take other poster's responses too seriously.  Like water off a duck's back, you gotta let things roll off of ya; not take things so personally.  That person doesn't know you personally, and you don't know them; the intentions, or message, of posts can be muddied by typing too fast and/or of leaving out/off words.  Actually taking the time to read, and comprehend, other's posts would help, too.


Put a sock in it!!

Oops... wrong person...

Quote from: bubba zanetti on June 05, 2007, 02:08:35 PM
Quote2.  The Moderators do a sub par job, I understand that you have other shaZam! to do, but you volunteered for this position.  You can't start building a house for Habitat for Humanity and say mid way through "f%$k it, I'm tired, sleep outside, I'm out".  If you're going to bother locking a thread, explain why, don't just tie it off.  All that runs us into are situations where the aforementioned frustrations are left without any source to vent to; that's when people just up and quit the board and who does that benefit?  By you "doing your job" and locking threads and killing debates, you're killing the board.

Unfortunatly there is no standard operating procedure on being a mod & how to handle different situations, so I apologise for not meeting your standards, but I do apreciate your criticism & have taken it on board & filed it away for future reference when needed.


BTW scratch how long did it take to type up your reply.

Put a sock in it...


f*ck.  Wrong again...

Quote from: pandy on June 05, 2007, 01:19:10 PM
Quote from: SmartDrug on June 04, 2007, 11:44:43 PM
there is a definite trend here that hurts this board and keeps it in it's current crippled form.
This board has doubled (perhaps tripled) in size in the past couple of years. It has its trends (such as more fights as the weather worsens and folks can't ride). GSTwin might be a bit of a dysfunctional family now and then, but I think it's about as far from crippled as it could be. 

Quote from: SmartDrug on June 04, 2007, 11:44:43 PM
I've never been more frustrated trying to do something benevolent than when I post on here (not to say that all my posts are on the level, I f%$k up too, get upset and lost my head, no doubt.).  Threads get locked, shaZam! gets thrown out of whack and there's no explanation.
If someone doesn't want your advice, move on. Someone else's disagreement or refusal of advice offered isn't a personal affront or an insult. As you yourself have stated, the GSTwin bunch are pretty smart; I doubt there's a thread that's been locked that folks don't recognize why it was locked, though I'm sure there are a few who--sometimes vehemently--disagree with with a thread being locked and/or the reasons behind it.

Quote from: SmartDrug on June 04, 2007, 11:44:43 PM
2.  The Moderators do a sub par job, I understand that you have other shaZam! to do, but you volunteered for this position.  You can't start building a house for Habitat for Humanity and say mid way through "f%$k it, I'm tired, sleep outside, I'm out".  If you're going to bother locking a thread, explain why, don't just tie it off.  All that runs us into are situations where the aforementioned frustrations are left without any source to vent to; that's when people just up and quit the board and who does that benefit?  By you "doing your job" and locking threads and killing debates, you're killing the board.
While I appreciate the comparison to H. for H., we're birds of a different feather. While it would be just ducky if mods could devote 24/7 to watching the board, we absolutely do have lives, and we don't give up those lives when we're invited to volunteer countless hours of our time on an online motorcycle forum. I'm very sorry that you're unhappy SmartDrug, but I'm not exactly sure I'm understanding where all your frustrations and where all of your anger is coming from. The mods do an outstanding job of keeping things running, and my personal opinion is that members leaving or getting fed up has more to do with problem members and tirades than it has to do with any of our fine moderators (myself excluded, of course, because everyone loves to hate on purple  :flipoff: :laugh:).

Quote from: SmartDrug on June 04, 2007, 11:44:43 PM
3.  The current separation of the categories is vague and lacking
john thinks there are too many sections in the forum as it is.... ;)

Quote from: SmartDrug on June 04, 2007, 11:44:43 PM
I'd compare GSTwins to a crowded bar where you get all sorts of people, inevitably fights and arguments will start but instead of letting them work out their differences like gentlemen or ladies, they're separated and the patrons leave upset and eventually, after it has happened enough, just stop coming to that bar. Alright, tirade over, thoughts opinions, rebuttal, etc.
This isn't a bad comparison. GSTwin *is* rather like an internet neighorhood bar. We get all sorts, and we rarely all agree on anything at the same time. But there's also a lot of support, and I rarely see a n00b's question not answered within a day. In fact, every day, members go out of their way to look up answers that they might not know, and then they share how they searched and the answers they got. Every community has natural attrition: people get out of riding, they move to different bikes, they get busy with jobs, girlfriends/boyfriends, school, and riding. Some get clean and sober....  :laugh: I've met folks IRL from GSTwin who'll go MANY extra miles to lend a hand or bail a pal out of trouble. I've made some true friends here. The GSTwin I see is very different from the one you see, SmartDrug, and that truly sucks. I'd love for you to be able to see it as I do, but we're all different, and we all bring different perspectives to the table.

GSTwin isn't perfect (no place can be), but it's a place I enjoy spending time in, learning from others, and sharing my own n00b experiences with new riders.  Plus, I just LOVE this bike, and I just LOVE the majority of the GSTwin members. There are some who rub me the wrong way, just as I do them...and anyone else who's human....  :laugh: Yeah....one big, happy, dysfunctional family...  :laugh: :kiss3:

Put a sock in it!!!

GOOD GOD!!!  I'm horrible at this!!!  Lemme try again...

Quote from: Onlypastrana199 on June 05, 2007, 12:34:16 PM
At least he wasn't whining about stickers  :laugh:

Put a sock in it!!!

OH F*CK!!!!  DEFINITELY the wrong person to piss off...


[An runs away REALLY quickly...]
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: SmartDrug on June 05, 2007, 02:57:14 PM
Well I said my piece, thanks for reading.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: zukiGS500 on June 05, 2007, 04:10:30 PM
You know what would help this forum, if Suzuki stopped selling the f model and went back to the naked gs. 2004 is when all the problems started.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: scratch on June 05, 2007, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: bubba zanetti on June 05, 2007, 02:08:35 PM
BTW scratch how long did it take to type up your reply.
I anguished over it for my entire lunch hour.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: Dober on June 05, 2007, 07:02:25 PM
Am I the only one who finds the color scheme of this site irritating as hell?
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 05, 2007, 07:29:28 PM
I can't stand the default colours! ???

Profile, look & layout preferences, change current theme   :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: RVertigo on June 05, 2007, 07:29:44 PM
You CAN change the colors, you know... :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 05, 2007, 07:32:14 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on June 05, 2007, 07:29:44 PM
You CAN change the colors, you know... :icon_rolleyes:

Geez.....always behind, and always impatient!  :icon_rolleyes: :flipoff: :laugh:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: spc on June 05, 2007, 07:33:04 PM
You should ban him :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: RVertigo on June 05, 2007, 07:35:50 PM
Quote from: pandy on June 05, 2007, 07:32:14 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on June 05, 2007, 07:29:44 PMYou CAN change the colors, you know... :icon_rolleyes:
Geez.....always behind, and always impatient!  :icon_rolleyes: :flipoff: :laugh:
If I didn't have that f%$king 45 second delay, I wouldn't have been behind...  Which is why I posted it anyway...  So  :flipoff:


I was only rude 'cause you'd already answered his question...  So  :flipoff: again!
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 05, 2007, 07:41:54 PM
You're rude just cuz you're rude!  :laugh:

You're just bitter cuz you're slow, and I'm not, so  :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: RVertigo on June 05, 2007, 07:54:11 PM
Enforced slow...  It's like riding a moto that's electronically limited to 28 MPH...   :mad:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 05, 2007, 07:55:36 PM
That would save lives....can you imagine a 'busa that can only go 28MPH!?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: spc on June 05, 2007, 08:00:15 PM
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
yeah but it could get to 28 in like 1.2 sec :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 05, 2007, 08:03:29 PM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: RVertigo on June 05, 2007, 08:05:47 PM
28 MPH isn't a safe speed...  You end up being pissed off and just closing the web page rather than waiting, copying what you wrote, clicking back twice, clicking reply again, pasting what you wrote, then clicking Post again...  Hoping that it's actually been 45 seconds.  :mad:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 05, 2007, 08:31:09 PM
And then occasionally posting something twice by accident and not being able to delete it...and then the rest of us get to laugh at you for being such a dork!  :icon_mrgreen: :laugh:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: RVertigo on June 05, 2007, 09:52:39 PM
Where did I accidentally post twice?
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: spc on June 05, 2007, 10:08:23 PM
whore :flipoff: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: RVertigo on June 05, 2007, 10:15:51 PM
STALKER!!! :mad: :2guns:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: spc on June 05, 2007, 10:37:23 PM
 :dunno_white: I'm bored and wide awake :cry:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: ledfingers on June 06, 2007, 01:50:38 AM
 :cheers: meee toooo.

it all comes back to the fact that everyone sees everything in their own light, but we all have to remember its not worth getting agrivated over. ignore it.

pandy, i swear you're a motorcycle-riding version of my mother. maybe riding with you would be like cooking with her... :thumb:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 06, 2007, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on June 05, 2007, 09:52:39 PM
Where did I accidentally post twice?

GENERALLY speaking....yeesh...it's not ALWAYS about you, you, YOU! :P  :laugh: :kiss3:


Quote from: ledfingers on June 06, 2007, 01:50:38 AM
pandy, i swear you're a motorcycle-riding version of my mother. maybe riding with you would be like cooking with her... :thumb:

I cook, baby, just not in the kitchen!  :flipoff: :laugh:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: RVertigo on June 06, 2007, 08:39:44 PM
Quote from: pandy on June 06, 2007, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: RVertigo on June 05, 2007, 09:52:39 PM
Where did I accidentally post twice?

GENERALLY speaking....yeesh...it's not ALWAYS about you, you, YOU!
I'm far too perfect to make mistakes.


I'm never wrong...  I thought I was once, but I was mistaken.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 06, 2007, 08:43:01 PM
You have an orange motorcycle. That's just wrong (unless it's the creamcycle  :kiss3:).  :P
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: RVertigo on June 06, 2007, 08:45:27 PM
But... It's never been on it's side...

Maybe the orange is keeping it upright...

Maybe you should paint your SV Orange...
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 06, 2007, 08:55:09 PM
AND....you're a yellow power ranger! eeeeeeeeeeeeeek!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on June 07, 2007, 03:14:47 AM
OMG it finally makes sense... RVertigo is in Seattle, porsche4786 (Kev) is in Portland.. Rvertigo is the yellow ranger, Kev is the blue ranger..theres more out there!!!
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: makenzie71 on June 07, 2007, 03:55:16 AM
Who gets to be the white ranger?  I'll be the mexican ranger so I can take his job and steal his shaZam!.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: RVertigo on June 07, 2007, 10:40:57 AM
I guess the White Ranger should have gone to college so he could get a better Ranger job... :dunno_white:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: bubba zanetti on June 07, 2007, 01:57:18 PM
Special Terry is the pink power ranger.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 07, 2007, 02:23:27 PM
I guess I'll be the purple power ranger!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: bubba zanetti on June 07, 2007, 03:15:17 PM
Quote from: pandy on June 07, 2007, 02:23:27 PM
I guess I'll be the purple power ranger!  :icon_mrgreen:

I'm getting a feeling that purple is your favourite colour.  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 07, 2007, 03:16:32 PM
Nope. Blue!  :laugh:

S'twue!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: ledfingers on June 07, 2007, 11:23:09 PM
i was told i look like i'm in special forces and i'm going to sneak up and kill you. i know i can't sneak up on anything in my boots though... i guess i don't fit in here... might as well just sell the bike if i don't look like a power ranger.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: bubba zanetti on June 08, 2007, 12:22:12 AM
I wouldn't worry ledfingers there seems to be two groups on here, the special ones who look like power rangers when they've got their gear one & normal people like us.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: ledfingers on June 08, 2007, 01:05:13 AM
haha, good to know... :cheers: although i'd say thats one of the first times i've ever been considered normal by any standards.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: jen_ on June 08, 2007, 09:58:33 AM
I would like it if when I "moused over" a thread name, I could see the first few lines of the thread.  For some reason, GST is pretty slow on my work computer, and thread names like "Holy Crap" don't really tell me much about what's inside and if I want to read it or not.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 08, 2007, 10:59:40 AM
Quote from: bubba zanetti on June 08, 2007, 12:22:12 AM
normal people like us.  :laugh:

Surely...you weren't including YOURSELF in this group...... ?   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  :flipoff:  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: spc on June 08, 2007, 12:26:05 PM
YEAH!!!!  I'm Pink!!!! :flipoff: :flipoff:  sorry I know I'm a little late.  I found out mixing lunesta and percocet will make you sleep whole days at a time :oops: :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: bubba zanetti on June 08, 2007, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: pandy on June 08, 2007, 10:59:40 AM
Quote from: bubba zanetti on June 08, 2007, 12:22:12 AM
normal people like us.  :laugh:

Surely...you weren't including YOURSELF in this group...... ?   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  :flipoff:  :icon_mrgreen:

Ummm not really, but compared to you power ranger weirdos I'm sort of normal.  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: l3uddha on June 08, 2007, 09:12:32 PM
I don't like how a thread that's making a good point is ultimatly broken down into mindless drabble (http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/images/smilies/stickpoke.gif)

this forum has gone way too soft. I get more entertainment watching those chickens bawk back & forth at each other on the View.

Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on June 08, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
Quote from: bubba zanetti on June 08, 2007, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: pandy on June 08, 2007, 10:59:40 AM
Quote from: bubba zanetti on June 08, 2007, 12:22:12 AM
normal people like us.  :laugh:

Surely...you weren't including YOURSELF in this group...... ?   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  :flipoff:  :icon_mrgreen:

Ummm not really, but compared to you power ranger weirdos I'm sort of normal.  :laugh: :laugh:
well bubba do you eat vegemite?
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: pandy on June 08, 2007, 10:17:40 PM
Quote from: bubba zanetti on June 08, 2007, 02:25:50 PM
Ummm not really, but compared to you power ranger weirdos I'm sort of normal.  :laugh: :laugh:


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: You're killin' me over here!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :kiss3:
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: bubba zanetti on June 08, 2007, 10:35:22 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on June 08, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
Quote from: bubba zanetti on June 08, 2007, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: pandy on June 08, 2007, 10:59:40 AM
Quote from: bubba zanetti on June 08, 2007, 12:22:12 AM
normal people like us.  :laugh:

Surely...you weren't including YOURSELF in this group...... ?   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  :flipoff:  :icon_mrgreen:

Ummm not really, but compared to you power ranger weirdos I'm sort of normal.  :laugh: :laugh:
well bubba do you eat vegemite?

Yep, but I prefer marmite to vegemite.
Title: Re: Ways to better GSTwin
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on June 08, 2007, 10:39:28 PM
nice, im prolly one of two in tennessee that would touch teh stuff. marmite includedf, but no one will go near vegemite. i love it  :cookoo: :cookoo: