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Title: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: genEricStL on June 06, 2007, 11:25:36 PM
 OK , I don't know a ton about bikes yet ( I like to say i'm "aggressively learning" , ie : reading up on everything I can hehe) , but i KNOW i want another bike in addition to my GS , something I can use on the highways a bit more (i know my GS works on the highway , I just want something bigger - keeping my GS for the local twisty roads and because i'm just getting it customized to my liking) ... this is in the upper portion of my price range : http://stlouis.craigslist.org/mcy/346047183.html

It sure is purty , but i haven't heard much on these bikes aside from in bike mags and press release stuff ... anyone have any direct knowledge of these , things to look out for , etc ?

thanks for your time ,
-Eric
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: nick_villan on June 06, 2007, 11:28:51 PM
good bike, my friend has one :cheers:
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: makenzie71 on June 06, 2007, 11:34:48 PM
TL's are great but I wouldn't be gettinig it to spend a lot of time on yet.  They're brutal bikes...I spent a little time on a '05 GSXR1000 and that bike was more forgiving than my TLS was.  You'll have to get used to a few quirks but I can't really tell you what they are...they vary from TL to TL.  On mine the front cylinder would cut out if the plug got wet.

$5500 is a good price if that bike's in as is described condition.
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: ducati_nolan on June 06, 2007, 11:43:38 PM
I want one! I love the big twins.

I've heard from a bike mechanic friend of mine that some of the liquid cooled race type suzukis like the TLRs and GSXRs aren't good for much more than 30,000 miles when ridden agressivly. The air cooled suzukis supposedly last forever (GS, Bandit, kattana etc) but as far as liquid cooled racers, the Hondas last the longest.

He told me this and didn't believe him but right at 30,000 miles his TLR started losing compression and he sold it.

Take that for what it's worth but check out the Honda VTR 1000 it's just as sweet.

Here's a cheap one local to you, except that it already has 37,000 miles on it. Doubt you could put more miles on this than the TLR before it craps out on you http://stlouis.craigslist.org/mcy/345532596.html
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: makenzie71 on June 06, 2007, 11:46:48 PM
my first S had 28,000 miles and had perfect compression...and being in the flat lands it spent a good portion of it's like at WOT.  Second had 33k and ran perfect.  Go to www.tlplanet.com and you'll see a lot of 30k plus bikes that have zero issues.  On guy over there has an all-stock 94k TLS.
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: vsboxerboy on June 07, 2007, 12:07:28 AM
maybe its just me but when I see a bike with a huge list of mods, it kind of turns me off to it.  I like em fresh and clean clean.
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: spc on June 07, 2007, 12:12:03 AM
compared to the GS that is  gonna make you shaZam! yourself when you twitch the throttle even a little
I love those liter twins, though: TL, VTR anything Duc.  They wind up fast and accelerate even faster :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:  If it was in my current price range I'd buy it :thumb:
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: domas on June 07, 2007, 12:43:12 AM
If you just want something for the highway get some detuned 600 or 1000 fours. TLR will gladly kill you if it gets a chance.
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: spc on June 07, 2007, 12:46:58 AM
Just for comparison a mildly tuned TL will show a busa who's boss any day.......so yeah it'll kill you if you give it a chance :o
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: makenzie71 on June 07, 2007, 12:58:44 AM
maybe you're thinking in manueverability...outside of that a 120rwhp TLR isn't going to touch a 170rwhp busa.
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: spc on June 07, 2007, 01:13:05 AM
obviously in maneuverability. A GS with a good rider can outmaneuver a busa :flipoff:  I was just speaking of  the bike in general.  even though it produces less horsepower it is about a hundred pounds lighter :thumb:
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: spc on June 07, 2007, 01:26:45 AM
damn bubba looks like your on top of shaZam! :thumb:
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: bettingpython on June 07, 2007, 04:30:13 AM
Sounds about right price wise, the mods that have been done look good and sliders would be one of the first things you wanted anyway.

1st things first it's gonna handle like shaZam! the way it is right now, the rear has been lowered. Get the lowering link out of thereand I don't know how the clipon's were raised but if it was done by raising the forks in the tripples that will need to be rectified as well. The last thing you want is a 1000cc's of engine leaned over on a ramp with an unhappy suspension.

How long have you been riding BTW?
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: frye on June 07, 2007, 09:05:04 AM
TL= widowmakers
ive ridden an TLR
nobody needs that much power
and theyre unstable as all get out.
just my .02
why dont you get a older hornet or something for the freeway
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: bettingpython on June 07, 2007, 09:34:27 AM
That bike is no more dangerous than any other bike. That includes the GS500

The brain behind the wrist is the determining factor.

Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: dgyver on June 07, 2007, 09:50:06 AM
Quote from: frye on June 07, 2007, 09:05:04 AM
TL= widowmakers
ive ridden an TLR
nobody needs that much power
and theyre unstable as all get out.
just my .02
why dont you get a older hornet or something for the freeway

I have owned a TLR for 4 years. They are not unstable. Maybe just the one you was on. Mine was my most favorite bike every owned. I would buy another in a heartbeat. No problem dragging a knee whenever I wanted to. They have a lot of usable torque but a competent rider is able to harness it. They are not to be ridden like an I-4.
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: bettingpython on June 07, 2007, 10:01:10 AM
Nobody does need that bike then, again I don't need mine nor does my wife need what she has. The grin factor is why I own my bike. The GS is  a fine machine you can pin the throttle and never slow down in the twisties. But a machne like that ohhhhhhh baby it just says spank me I dare ya :thumb: I'll spank back.

I'd knock the bottom out of it ;)

Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: Jake D on June 07, 2007, 11:11:39 AM
I love that bike.  I'd hit that.  I'd hit it and split it and lick it and quit it and after the ride put my clothes on and go outside. . .and say, "Y'all don't say nothin'. . . "


Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: spc on June 07, 2007, 12:59:37 PM
sequence of events if your not ready for the bike:
sneeze
vrooooooom
f%$k!!!!!!
crash
screech
bang
Oh f%$k call an ambulance, I dont think thats supposed to point that way
boom :o
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: makenzie71 on June 07, 2007, 01:47:59 PM
boom?  it explodes? or the thing that isn't supposed to point which explodes?  the latter would be more interesting.
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: Jake D on June 07, 2007, 02:14:59 PM
No, it really does explode. 

Boom.
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: spc on June 07, 2007, 02:39:38 PM
yeah the bike blows up......although a broken bone exploding would be kinda interesting :o
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: makenzie71 on June 07, 2007, 02:55:12 PM
makes ya kinda glad bones aren't made of silane or trimethylindium...though that'd be kinda cool...especially trimethylindium.  That's stuff's pimp.
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: genEricStL on June 07, 2007, 02:57:29 PM
LOL - I posted this last night right before bed and didn't look at it until after work just now ... the dude hasn't answered my email yet , so I may be getting overly excited , but I REALLY like this bike hehe . I've been riding for a few years now , and i've riden many of my buddy's bikes - from a ratted out Ninja 750 with no plastics to a Honda Blackbird ( i fell in love instantly lol) and have had a R1 on a couple mile highway excursion (he only let me go to the next offramp lol , then didn't want to ride the CB900 I had anymore  :dunno_white: guess he didn't like the trade lol) .
Even with my little GS , I ride like an old lady until I knew the bike and it's behavior inside & out . I run the same roads around the house at ever increasing speeds until i'm happy hehe . I'm 34 now , still don't feel like a "grown-up" , but i'm mature enough to not have to run balls out at all times . I think i'll be ok with it ... if you're in the area and see some dude on a TLR getting passed by old ladies on mopeds , give me a break , i'm still learning the bike  :icon_twisted:

Thanks for the link to the honda btw ... that'd leave me some cash and a happier wife . That's only if this guy doesn't get back to me ... did i mention I REALLY like this bike ? :icon_twisted:

-Eric
Title: Re: '99 TL1000r i'm looking at ... thoughts ?
Post by: Jake D on June 08, 2007, 08:04:41 AM
From the sounds of it, you could handle the Tiller just fine.  It is a sweet bike.  If you get it, you can come to KC and trade bikes with me for as long as you want.