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QuoteMy Integra is my baby, Its like my child. I have invested alot into my Integra, and one thing I dont fu*k around with is the safety and security of my baby. You all know that the integra is the #1 stolen car in america. Its one of the easiest and almost obvious solutions to that. I came up with the idea and installed it on a few of my friends cars, I dont have one of these in my car (because its built into my clifford alarm stystem ) but to those of you that dont want to pay for expensive security solutions, here you go. I installed one on my friends integra, and when it was stolen a few months later, guess what saved it...
Things youll need:
a cell phone that you dont use, that supports Digital and Analog (most new phones)
the ESN or HEX number from the back of the phone
a cigarette lighter charger for your phone
wire (12ga works best)
zip ties
electrical tape
a good phone battery
ziplock bag
New cell phones have the ability for the network to track the location of cell phones for "911" calls. This data is transfered through the digital network of the wireless carrier. This can easily be changed in your phones menu settings.
(Example phone: LG VX6000)
Step 1: On your phone, Go to the menu, select settings, select location, there should be menu that says "E911" and "Location On", select "Location On" or something similar. This displays Latitude, Longitude and Altitude of the location of the phone to andbody that requests it. This can be accesed even if your phone is not activated.
Step 2: Go through your phone and change any settings that would turn off or put your phone into sleep mode.
Step 3: Find a spot in or under your car where your charger can reach, that it would most likely not be seen.
Step 4: Find a 12 volt power source, this must me a power source that is always on (with the battery in obviously). The back of your cigarette ligher works the best. I think there are 3 wires, you must connect the wires that are always on. The way you can tell is by testing the wires and making sure they charge the phone when the ignition is off. Once you find the "always on" wires, just splice the wires that are connecting to the lighter jack and run them to where you want to mount the phone
Step 5: Plug the charger into the phone and make sure everything works.
Step 6: Run the charger cables to an area where you can mount the phone. Make sure they are hidden from anybody.
Step 7: Make sure the phone is charging, and if it is, zip tie the charger cord to the phone and put a ziplock bag over it. Then mount the phone in an unseen area.
Step 8: Your Done!
If your car is ever stolen, you have a few options:
1: Call the police and file a legit police report, make sure they know that you have a phone in the car that has GPS abilities, and its setup for that exact reason to recover your car if its ever stolen. Give them your ESN/HEX number, and it can be used LEGALLY by you or any police officer investigating the theft.
2: Call the phone carrier, give them the ESN or HEX from the back of the phone, and get Lat & Long from them. This can be inserted into any GPS or even Google Earth, and you will be able to see the location of the unit.
3: If you are a AAA member or even if you have roadside assistance enabled on your carrier, you can always call them to get the location for... umm... "Roadside Assistance"
4: Call Fugitive finder, 917-295-4425, they will find the phone to the nearest centimeter! They charge a few hundred dollars (may defeat the purpose), but it will save your car.
If whoever steals your car takes your car battery out, (this is where the "good" phone battery comes into play) the phone will stay on standby mode for up to 48 hours. Most phones can stay on standby mode for up to 200 hours depending on the model. The location of the unit can still be broadcast even if its on standby mode.
My friends car was stolen, and this saved his car. They recovered it at a junkyard (the car was barely touched) just 4 hours after it was stolen. The car battery was taken out, but the phone was still on, transmitting information on the location of the car. The funny thing is that when it was stolen, he had his actual cell phone in it. they threw the phone out around the corner, because they diddnt want to be tracked. This definatley works. Its a very inexpensive way to save your baby
Note: This works best with Verizon Wireless phones the best, but most digital phones can do this.
Tools:
Latitude and Longitude to decimal converter
Figitive Finder (917) 295-4425 - They will find your phone >more info
Not a bad idea... We have sprint family locator on our phones, I can pull up a webpage (or app on my phone) and locate any of the phones on our plan. It would cost a free phone and $15 a month or so to add it to our family plan and locator plan. Not sure what the monthly fee is on a lojack setup but it would definately be lower upfront cost. That way would be easier than the method described since at least you could look up the location yourself and just call the cops and tell them where it is (something tells me getting the police to trace the phone would require paperwork, approvals, contacting the carrier, etc etc).
i don't do the cage thing and if anyone wants my rat bike good luck figuring out how to start yoshi . i changed up the wiring a little :)
Cool Idea :thumb:
I found my old Toshiba cell phone...
Now to charge it up and find out if it's got GPS capabilities...
switch the wiring so your light switch is the kill and the kill the high low....it will drive those who don't know nuts
Quote from: frankieG on June 23, 2007, 06:22:28 PM
switch the wiring so your light switch is the kill and the kill the high low....it will drive those who don't know nuts
Or they could throw it in a truck/van/on a trailer and you'll never see it again. They don't care if it's wired correctly when they part it out
Quote from: manofthefield on June 23, 2007, 06:57:26 PM
Quote from: frankieG on June 23, 2007, 06:22:28 PM
switch the wiring so your light switch is the kill and the kill the high low....it will drive those who don't know nuts
Or they could throw it in a truck/van/on a trailer and you'll never see it again. They don't care if it's wired correctly when they part it out
that is true enough however most crimes are crimes of opportunity and the big one...have you seen my bike? its runs fabulously but looks like hell :) my great rat bike yoshi
Never seen your bike, but I'll believe you on condition. And I'm really not saying my system is any better... I just lock the fork and take the key with me... then depend on insurance for anything that happens after that
Quote from: manofthefield on June 23, 2007, 07:13:47 PM
Never seen your bike, but I'll believe you on condition. And I'm really not saying my system is any better... I just lock the fork and take the key with me... then depend on insurance for anything that happens after that
Thats what I do. . except for that I usually forget the key, but hey no one's stolen it yet :laugh:
Neat.. i like the idea.
Quote from: frankieG on June 23, 2007, 06:22:28 PM
switch the wiring so your light switch is the kill and the kill the high low....it will drive those who don't know nuts
Hmm, nice idea too.
The only thing that makes me a tiny bit doubtful about this, is if the two switches carry the same electric current quantity, so that you can swap'em. As for the rest, really smart and neat idea :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I had thought about something else as a poorman's anti-theft device:
As can be seen in the wiring diagram, each coil has three wires: the large one goes to the spark plug; the other two are one black&yellow(R)/white(L), and one orange&white(common to the two).
I suppose that the common orange&white wire coming from the ignition control unit simply provides 12V primary supply(coils are basicly transformers), and the other gives electric impulse/command for the spark at the right time.
This said, I might suggest to interrupt with a small switch (carefully and neatly hidden undertail) the orange&white wire, so that if you cut power supply to coils, if you (er, a thief) try to hotwire the ignition knob, the starter motor will crank but, since there'll be no spark...no go. :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff:
I'm saying all this just basing myself on logic/theory, never tested this on the field on my GS, even though I'd done something like that on my former scooter...and it worked :icon_mrgreen:
Try all this at your own risk. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :thumb:
Oh An, phone idea is very very smart and neat, too. I definitely like it. :bowdown: :thumb:
Most bikes are stolen by throwing the bike in the back of a van or truck. Usually a 3 or 4 man crew the truck bed or van will have a matress in it. Pull up 2 or 3 guys jump out and throw bike into back of the vehicle ricky tick quick jump in and drive off. I saw this happen once and they are fast. 7 bikes total were found in various stages of dissasembly. They don't care if it runs.
i always helped fellow classmates with anti-thefting their carros. i did everything from a basic switch hidden under the dash to using fake relays with 4 or 5 posts so even if you find it, you have to pick the right ones to get the car to run. it's not worth the effort on a bike. if someone wants it, they'll put it in a truck.
Quote from: ledfingers on June 26, 2007, 01:47:14 AM
i always helped fellow classmates with anti-thefting their carros. i did everything from a basic switch hidden under the dash to using fake relays with 4 or 5 posts so even if you find it, you have to pick the right ones to get the car to run. it's not worth the effort on a bike. if someone wants it, they'll put it in a truck.
I beg to differ...
It is VERY WORTH it for a bike. Especially when it's your pride and joy (and for me, the only stress-relieving activity I've got).
Today is Day 32.
Feels like MONTHS. :cry:
I'm getting more and more irritating...
I didn't say a tracking and recovery system wasn't worth it. If it can be hidden or made to look like a factory component then it stands a good chance of being overlooked just long enough to possibly recover the vehicle. Honda Firebldes in europe are equipped with transceiver key's. U.S. bikes are not. The only thing I have heard of the HISS doing for the euro's is causing all hell for the poor guys when they lose the transponder encoded keys.
UPDATE:
I checked with the Massachusetts State Police...
We've got E911 in the area, but in terms of tracking a phone (while it's turned on) is a no-go... maybe in the future...
The dealer that I bought the R6 from told me that they have LoJack for $715 INSTALLED!!! No monthly fees either...
Disc Alarm
Remote Alarm
Locked Gate
Blocked by car
Lojack???