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So, did you go screw that skank???

No he dressed up as the blue ranger again...

Kev I can't believe you haven't let go of the tip thing already...its been months!

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Maybe I'm still tired or sleepy but I don't get the point of the article. . . .the teacher doesn't like to leave tips in a tip jar?  But he has a tip jar for his son in his room for when he does extra stuff. . . hmmm. .. ..yeah I'm confused.

I tip 15% at resturaunts, for basic service, crappy service they are getting 10% or less depends on how crappy.  Great service I usually tip at 20%.  Valet parking / washroom things like they they get a couple of bucks.

Kev tried to tell me months ago..that because he worked for his fathers store and he "helped" people with their electrical stuff...he should get tips..he couldn't grasp the concept of gratuity.

He is speaking more about tips for "non service" jobs. I agree with him. I tip at the restaurant and bars etc... but to tip the cashier at Walmart? or the grocery store ??? WHY? Their job is not "tip" oriented. In restaurants and bars most employees are paid a lower wage in anticipation of tips. The grocery store doesn't do that.


Funny related story:

About 10 years ago I was the manager at a record store and one day a lady bought a $2 CD single. She gave me a $20 and told me to "keep the change"  :icon_mrgreen: That was VERY strange ??? Never happened before or again in my 2 years there. I never saw her again either  :dunno_white: I remember one of my new employees standing next to me was like " Damn! I never get tips. I said.. No? I do all the time  :icon_mrgreen:

:laugh: He is prob. the one who started this Tip Jar craze  :laugh:

I don't tip anyone making at least minimum wage unless they really impress me.  Like th bagger at United...if he can pack $100 worth of groceries in a single bag in a way that doesn't damage anything, then hauls it to my car and has it stacked neatly in the trunk or back seat before I have time to even really help, he gets a couple bucks.

The chick at Sonic who effectively delivers two #1 Sonic burgers, a supersonic bacon cheesburger, three popcorn chicken things, 6 orders of fries, 6 large drinks and brings enough ketchup and sauce to keep me from having to push the little red button...again...all while wearing roller skates on piss-poor concrete and asphault gets a couple bucks.

The badass waiters/waitresses get 15% or more.

My last waitress at Olive Garden got two wire ties and a paper clip.

edit:  i'll add that one time at Starbucks, while they weren't looking, I emptied their "tip jar" into their Ronald mcDonald House jar...I do it all the time at gas stations.  it amazes me that I see tip jars at privately owned gas stations operated by white hillbillies all the time...but I never saw one at a station owned by a middleeastern feller or a black feller.  Tip jars at places that pay minimum wage, at least, to all their employees piss me off.

I just now realized that I have never once been to a gas station owned and operated by a mexican feller...

Quote from: makenzie71 on July 10, 2007, 03:50:32 PM


I just now realized that I have never once been to a gas station owned and operated by a mexican feller...

Then you have never been to LA  :icon_mrgreen:


:laugh:

I'll assume Mak's the one who voted for 'I can't read' :laugh:

on a dial up connection...and a horrible one...so waiting for the article to load wasn't worth my time.  I was just  posting along with conversation here.

I didn't vote.

shaZam!, way to make me feel spoiled :o  I'm on 10mbps cable..........and a router that supports 8mbps.  Thank god for step-brothers that run Apple stores :thumb:  I get all the fun toys.  He's sending me an iPhone when the store staff get their free ones :thumb:

Quote from: Onlypastrana199 on July 10, 2007, 02:28:15 PM
No he dressed up as the blue ranger again...

Kev I can't believe you haven't let go of the tip thing already...its been months!

well when i signed out of hotmail, i saw it on the msn news thing so i clicked on it. i thought it was funny that the teacher got his students to tip him lol.

I'm just giving you a hard time Kev  :laugh:


Honestly..if my teachers in high school impressed me enough and i had any money back then..i would have tipped them...in college..f%$k that..they make more than 3 times what my parents make in a year...but the high school teachers all made about 40k a year..and had put up with a lot of of shaZam!..

Quote from: makenzie71 on July 10, 2007, 03:50:32 PM
I don't tip anyone making at least minimum wage unless they really impress me.  Like th bagger at United...if he can pack $100 worth of groceries in a single bag in a way that doesn't damage anything, then hauls it to my car and has it stacked neatly in the trunk or back seat before I have time to even really help, he gets a couple bucks.

The chick at Sonic who effectively delivers two #1 Sonic burgers, a supersonic bacon cheesburger, three popcorn chicken things, 6 orders of fries, 6 large drinks and brings enough ketchup and sauce to keep me from having to push the little red button...again...all while wearing roller skates on piss-poor concrete and asphault gets a couple bucks.

The badass waiters/waitresses get 15% or more.

My last waitress at Olive Garden got two wire ties and a paper clip.

edit:  i'll add that one time at Starbucks, while they weren't looking, I emptied their "tip jar" into their Ronald mcDonald House jar...I do it all the time at gas stations.  it amazes me that I see tip jars at privately owned gas stations operated by white hillbillies all the time...but I never saw one at a station owned by a middleeastern feller or a black feller.  Tip jars at places that pay minimum wage, at least, to all their employees piss me off.

I just now realized that I have never once been to a gas station owned and operated by a mexican feller...

I love this idea.

And I agree with Mak...  non-service oriented jobs do NOT warrant a tip of ANY amount...

...that being said...  I sometimes help out in the retail store bringing somewhat large items to customer's vehicles.  It's a courtesy.  It's the right thing to do....

It's the ONLY thing to do when the customer is a really cute girl...

Anyway... Most of the time, the customer wants to tip me for helping them out.  I always decline, but I thank them for the gesture.  Makes me feel good that my services have made someone happy.

Where is the WTF vote?  :dunno_white:

A lady that I grew up around has a well off husband.He owns a fairly large landscape biz.She has never supported anything in the community.Not even the schools that helped raise her rotten ass kids.She recently came down with cancer.They have very good insurance.Every where I go I see quart size mason jars with a pitiful pic of her on it.The caption says,"Please Help Mrs.Lou.She has cancer and can't pay her bills."When I saw this,I wanted to throw the damn thing on the floor.She is the nastiest and meanest old woman I ever met.She ain't got no family or friends to help her,that's how mean she is.Her children have disowned her.So when I see a tip jar asking for money,I slip a piece of paper in with my tip.My tip is,If you're going to beg for money do it face to face,or do a doughnut fund raiser.Krispy Kreame is down the street and will help you.Sh!t pi$$ me off. :mad:  :mad:  :mad:

Well, I work as a server at Applebee's and I hate crappy tippers. I make $2.15 per hour plus tips. Which admittedly ends up working out very well. I am good at what I do, and really enjoy making good money for doing a good job. When I get these ingnorant customers that just don't know how to tip, I feel like finding out where they work and going in and making thier day of work a pain, just to show them somewhat how I felt by giving them the best service I could and getting nothing in return.

I've worked as a server and some people never got the concept of tips. I wanted to wear a big pin that said "I only make $2.13 a hour" but my manager wouldnt let me, I dont think some people get it. I used to work at a hotel making above min. wage and my job included driving to the airport to pick up people (get their luggage also) business travelers would normally tip they were easy to spot. People coming into town for cousin whoevers wedding never would. And it was always these people that would expect the shuttle to take them ALL over town, I even had one woman ask if I could wait while she bought groceries.  :mad: Did I work off tips? NO. But did I deserve something for my effort? I dunno, but it sure would of been nice.

-ash

Quote from: ashman on July 11, 2007, 09:43:09 AM
I've worked as a server and some people never got the concept of tips. I wanted to wear a big pin that said "I only make $2.13 a hour" but my manager wouldnt let me, I dont think some people get it. I used to work at a hotel making above min. wage and my job included driving to the airport to pick up people (get their luggage also) business travelers would normally tip they were easy to spot. People coming into town for cousin whoevers wedding never would. And it was always these people that would expect the shuttle to take them ALL over town, I even had one woman ask if I could wait while she bought groceries.  :mad: Did I work off tips? NO. But did I deserve something for my effort? I dunno, but it sure would of been nice.

-ash

Here in oregon they have to pay at least $7.80 an hour. Most people are actually paying above that too, plus tip. so they are doing ok. my friend works at a restaruant and makes like 25 an hour or more with tips.

 really don't think I'llever tips someone thats getting payed to do the job there doing.

But hell, you guys think they will me?

Think about it, you walk in to pay your insurance (which noone wants to pay in the first place) and the guy a buck or two for takeing your payment.  :icon_rolleyes:

Quote from: Crucialval on July 11, 2007, 10:07:16 AM
really don't think I'llever tips someone thats getting payed to do the job there doing.

I hope you are excluding servers in a restaurant. Because I'd like to see you pay your bills and raise a family on < $3/hr. I agree that if they make more than minumum wage and don't think they are making enough, they should talk to their supervisor for a raise or promotion. But in a restaurant setting where the government allows the employer to pay less than minumum wage because the employees expect to get tips...that's a whole different story.

No but for food service (bussers and waitresses not fast food places) I tip really well. Minimum wage for farm workers and food service is like $3.15 I've worked doing that, its not fun, people are rude, and its hard work...no one can live on that kind of money..now if they do something that really pisses me off..then i don't tip really well..but I ALWAYS leave a tip...

Places like subway where I go to lunch like 4 times a week and they know my sandwich when I walk in..I'll tip a buck or two once in a while..

Places like the hardware store..walmart..doctors office..no freaking way...

I always tip in a resturant. Not a fastfood or store clerks, their getting paid to do their job. Thats just sily. I a resturant I tip about 20% if I'm not needing a drink for to long. If on the other hand I get my food and don't see them untill I'm done and they bring my bill, I'm going to leave the change in my pocket and thats it. I've been in places that were slow and had $hitty service and a bad adittude I won't leave anything. They need to find a new job if they can't do it right.

Quote from: AcidReign on July 11, 2007, 09:36:12 AM
Well, I work as a server at Applebee's and I hate crappy tippers. I make $2.15 per hour plus tips. Which admittedly ends up working out very well. I am good at what I do, and really enjoy making good money for doing a good job. When I get these ingnorant customers that just don't know how to tip, I feel like finding out where they work and going in and making thier day of work a pain, just to show them somewhat how I felt by giving them the best service I could and getting nothing in return.

I  understand how you feel about the whole tipping situation, but you have to remember...  satisfaction is is the CUSTOMER'S perception...  You can't make everyone happy ALL the time.

Also...  YOU "chose" the field of food service...  not them. You could easily go out and get another job that pays more per hour, but of course you wouldn't get the tips.  In the end, you have to weigh the options and figure out which is better for YOU in the end...  and don't forget to weigh in the bad things too.

Oh yeah if giving free beer a tip then I'm guilty of that.  Before I had a house and the different people would come to hook up al lthe utilities and whatnot I used to offer them beer if it was hot outside or they looked thirsty.

Quote from: porsche4786 on July 11, 2007, 09:57:00 AM

Quote from: ashman on July 11, 2007, 09:43:09 AM
I've worked as a server and some people never got the concept of tips. I wanted to wear a big pin that said "I only make $2.13 a hour" but my manager wouldnt let me, I dont think some people get it. I used to work at a hotel making above min. wage and my job included driving to the airport to pick up people (get their luggage also) business travelers would normally tip they were easy to spot. People coming into town for cousin whoevers wedding never would. And it was always these people that would expect the shuttle to take them ALL over town, I even had one woman ask if I could wait while she bought groceries.  :mad: Did I work off tips? NO. But did I deserve something for my effort? I dunno, but it sure would of been nice.

-ash

Here in oregon they have to pay at least $7.80 an hour. Most people are actually paying above that too, plus tip. so they are doing ok. my friend works at a restaruant and makes like 25 an hour or more with tips.

Oregon is stupid, last month on the way to Seattle we (Louisiana residents)  stopped to get gas to find out you can't pump your own gas. After the shock wore off we talked to some residents who said its mostly to create jobs. (new jersey too) My friend and I laughed when the guy obviously was expecting a tip as he paused for a second and then realized. I can pump my own friggin gas, try that crap down here and people would run the politician out of office. You should see the pumps right before a hurricane, its a mad house.

-Ash

I've never and will never tip the guy pumping my gas, i hate it, i wish i could do my own here, they let you on the bike but not in the car. but, one time my friend gave a tip and the guy was like wtf is this for. so i can't say they expect it. i've never seen that.



edit: i've never seen somebody tip the gas guy other than my friend that one time.

I *RARELY* go to a full serve gas station...

But on the RARE occassion that I do, and on the RARE occassion that I have the attendant pump the gas, I give them a small tip.

Any one that is a server,food deliver,or drink server makes $2.15 here also.Some places care and pay min wage up to about $8 or $9 an hour.I managed a chain of pizza restraunts and we paid cooks $7.50,drivers $4 plus $0.80 per delivery and keep all tips.Cashiers made min wage.These are starting wages.I could deliver for 4 hours on friday night(5:30 to 9:30) and make $80 to $150 in tips.You have to know I live in a VERY small country hick town.Most places close around 5pm every day.BTW,I tip according to the service I receive.I'm not tipping someone that's chatting and not taking care of me.That's why I'm there.If I have a good waitress, she'll know me when I come back.

Quote from: scottpA_GS on July 10, 2007, 04:03:12 PM

Quote from: makenzie71 on July 10, 2007, 03:50:32 PM


I just now realized that I have never once been to a gas station owned and operated by a mexican feller...

Then you have never been to LA  :icon_mrgreen:


:laugh:

Or NC  :laugh:

I don't like tipping at all, but I at least understand the point when it comes to certain jobs...  What started as a reward for doing a good job, a bonus, has now become a part of the person's wage.

Servers get taxed on 15% of their food sales...  So, when you don't tip them, you're taking money out of their pockets.  :icon_confused:

I tip at restaurants...  I tip cab drivers...  I tip the bellboy if they haul my wife's bag (it's worth the $2, trust me)...  Sometimes I'll tip on a take-out order...  Other than that, I don't fill most of the tip jars out there.


Oh and...  I don't give cash to bums either.  :nono: