http://www.larslarson.com/NorthwestHeadlines/223222.aspx
this is f*cked up, this principal should lose his job and all benefits he has earned. but no, they decided to keep him on! :bs:
yea that is f%$ked up...
if it had been a high school at least we could have known he was getting it locally :thumb:
they drug test for sports...but it's ok for the principal to smoke pot? hah.......this really is pissing me off.
Quote from: porsche4786 on July 11, 2007, 11:20:29 AM
they drug test for sports...but it's ok for the principal to smoke pot? hah.......this really is pissing me off.
Eff that, if you could be good at a sport stoned, you should get extra points. I don't think I could hit a tee ball stoned. :laugh:
His smoking doesn't make him any worse at his job. If anything it makes him better. If you had to deal with bickering teachers and 1000+ kid all day, you would smoke to. He is a grown man living his live. His smoking didn't hurt anyone. I don't smoke but I know it should legal for adults.
Quote from: Crucialval on July 11, 2007, 12:08:31 PM
His smoking doesn't make him any worse at his job. If anything it makes him better. If you had to deal with bickering teachers and 1000+ kid all day, you would smoke to. He is a grown man living his live. His smoking didn't hurt anyone. I don't smoke but I know it should legal for adults.
Noway, that is retarded, they teach how drugs are bad, they shouldn't be donig it then!
Who gives a f%$k.
Drugs are bad, drinking is bad, WEED IS NOT A DRUG, Weed is bad for kids
Your not going whore around for a hit I don't care how long you've not had it. If your at the piont in your life that you want to be, than who are you that you can't.
Bill Gates smokes and noone cares, He was somking on a tape made for college kids that had to watch in my 1st computer class. noone said shaZam!.
Who cares what people do if it's not hurting anyone.
I agree that weed is not much of a "bad" drug but for a person who is in a position of power and a role model, its a bad choice :thumb:
I dont think anyone would care if their garbage man was puffin a splif when he drops your can in the truck, but a principal of a school ???
ok...I'm a teacher and not that it makes my opinion any more important, but I don't think weed or alcohol affects your performance at your job unless you are smoking or drinking right before, during, or after where kids can see you. If you are in the privacy of your on home and it's the weekend, then I don't think it's a problem. no, no one should be driving around, hanging out with kids or anything like that smoking or drinking. Anyone in the school systems of NC that has a CDL (bus license) has to be randomly tested. I definately agree with it, but if it's someone that's not high at the time or driving kids around then I don't see the problem with it. Just my $.02
Thankyou ^
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Kids are also not supposed to drink, but teachers can, and nobody says anything about that.
i think the lesson here is don't smoke in public places!!! You never know who is watching.
Now that I can agree with :thumb:
Keep our personal live at home.
heatherg11 said:
ok...I'm a teacher and not that it makes my opinion any more important, but I don't think weed or alcohol affects your performance at your job unless you are smoking or drinking right before, during, or after where kids can see you. If you are in the privacy of your on home and it's the weekend, then I don't think it's a problem. no, no one should be driving around, hanging out with kids or anything like that smoking or drinking. Anyone in the school systems of NC that has a CDL (bus license) has to be randomly tested. I definately agree with it, but if it's someone that's not high at the time or driving kids around then I don't see the problem with it. Just my $.02
It's nothing about your ability to 'keep it together' on the job. It's about the _kind_ of person that has 3 DUI's, a weapons charge or two, battery charges on his/her spouse etc.
All the things you do every day define your character. Should someone that can handle only doing a line of crystal meth on the weekend be allowed to fly commercial airliners ?
Or the guy that just needs a pick me up before a 8 hour surgery ?
Can them, can them all. If someone can't keep themselves clean, they don't deserve to drive busses, teach children (holy smokes), operate, etc.
Of course we all have <ahem> opinions, here's mine.
Sorry if that came off as an attack directed at you, it wasn't. Just wanted to include your post, because generally teachers rock, and don't get enough credit for their point of view.
We know you deserve more money. We just can't figure out where to bury all your bosses without making a big stink. :icon_lol:
+1000 stephen....what happens at home should stay at home, keep out of the public eye----papparatzi (sp) everywhere!!!!
ohgood- that was well said..but if what I do on the weekends doesn't affect my performance at work then why can't I do it? Now, after saying that- there are laws, I'm not saying anyone should be allowed to break laws on the weekends or anytime. I know plenty of people that deal with the public, not necessarily teachers, that do some not so good things, but they do their JOB exceptionally. :dunno_white: but everyone has their own opinions, and I respect everyone's.
I guess my point in all of this is......if this was a doctor or nurse, would this have been a such a big deal???? No, probably not. That's what I dont' agree with. My job is no more important than a doctors or anyone else, and god knows a doctor is very important- but don't CAN me when you wouldn't CAN a doctor or nurse or whatever doing the same thing.
Quote from: heatherg11 on July 11, 2007, 02:24:30 PM
I guess my point in all of this is......if this was a doctor or nurse, would this have been a such a big deal???? No, probably not. That's what I dont' agree with. My job is no more important than a doctors or anyone else, and god knows a doctor is very important- but don't CAN me when you wouldn't CAN a doctor or nurse or whatever doing the same thing.
??? Nobody said that they wouldn't/shouldn't fire a Dr or nurse? And I didn't see anyone say FIRE ALL THE HIPPIE ART TEACHERS! O0
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let's just can EVERYONE who smokes pot....principals, teachers, doctors, lawyers, Guess that would leave us with....................NO ONE.
I'm glad he didn't get canned....he was just smoking a doobie all by himself
He undoubtedly made a poor choice, but not one he should lose his job for. It's just pot, I'm sure a substantial proportion of America smokes pot or has in the past.
I don't smoke pot because it is illegal but I have smoked pot. I would if it was not illegal so this is stupid. Obviously much like alchy, kids shouldn't do it period. No one should technically cuz its illegal but honestly it shouldn't be and this guy should be left alone. How many teachers do you think are hitting the red wine heavily on a regular basis? Its not illegal but they wouldn't do it ON the job but, for example if they were camping at 10:10pm in the middle of the woods relaxing. My argument is flawed but you get the idea.
-Ash
I Love weed! O0 I smoke it every day :thumb: I am smoking some RIGHT NOW! :laugh:
Want to arrest me? :dunno_white:
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i would love to burn a joint with that principal. anyone who has a problem with this person should really watch the film "grass", which is about the history of marijuana laws. there is no valid reason why weed is illegal but beer is legal.
chris, interesting post. my opinion is mixed. if he was on school property, whether children saw it or not, then he should be punished. BUT if he chose to ahem toke up :oops: on his own time place or whatnot, then i say well wtf, meh no harm , no foul. weird opinion, Eh?
this reminds me, of a bible verse in Genesis
" I give you all herb bearing seed. to you it shall be for meat"
perhaps he was a believer, and took that verse verbatim.
who knows. and yes i am a former pot smoker. 1 year and six months sober from it :oops:
Well the way I see it.If I go out and Get a Job just about anywhere I'm going to have to go thru with a Wizz Test to be Checked for Drug use.Pot,Pills it doesn't matter.I'm either not going to get that Job or Get Fired if they find something in a Random Drug test.Why Should Teachers be Any Different than Anyone else. :dunno_white:
I had a Teacher in High School that was an Old Hippie.He was so Burned out that while he was Teaching some one would raise their Hand to Ask a Question.Then they would Ask Him to Roll them up a Joint. :laugh: After this He Wouldn't teach all he would talk about was Smoking some Good Stuff for Oh I guess 1 1/2 Hrs. out of a 2 Hour Class. :laugh: :laugh:
Teacher, principals, assistants, cafeteria workers, anyone in the school system that has a bus drivers license does have to be drug tested. In NC lots of schools tell beginning teachers or someone just being hired that they will need to get a bus license in order to be hired....I guess that's how they are trying to get to random test teachers.
Unless they Started within the Past 10 Years the Bus Drivers Don't Have to be Drug tested in this County at least.I could be Wrong. :dunno_white: I remember my Second Bus Driver when I started in the 2nd Grade.He took us for More tours in the Ditches than any of the Other ones. :laugh: :laugh: He Farmed with my Uncle a long time Ago and He said that He Killed a 1/5th of Scotch Everyday. :laugh: :laugh:
Not surprising. I had MANY teachers who would go for "walks" on their lunch break to smoke up.
""Smoking marijuana is safer than drinking coffee and less harmful than alcohol and tobacco," LOL
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070710/wl_canada_nm/canada_marijuana_col;_ylt=AntSkaEcRsS23QRD6US2tCtvaA8F (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070710/wl_canada_nm/canada_marijuana_col;_ylt=AntSkaEcRsS23QRD6US2tCtvaA8F)
This is something to be proud of.
LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!!
Cheers,
J
I always dreamed that my generation (the boomers) would end the senseless prohibition on marijuana. Instead, we kept it going and made the fines stiffer. We have so much extra money that we just want to throw it away on jail time for pot smokers. :cookoo: :cookoo:
Will some of you youngsters PLEASE vote reasonable people into office who will repeal the insanity that is our current drug policy?
I don't smoke (anything, I have asthma), but I think people should be able to smoke pot, just like they drink a beer after work. Driving under the influence is already illegal and should remain so, but people should have the freedom to ingest what they want if they don't harm anyone else. It's supposed to be a free country, right?!?
In my opinion whether or not the Principal loses his job should depend entirely on the school's drug use policy. Would a janitor be fired if he / she were arrested for drugs? If so, then so should the pricipal. If not, neither should he.
^ I do agree they should hive everyone the same treatment. Noone should loose their job over it.
Quote from: Mandres on July 12, 2007, 01:12:52 PM
In my opinion whether or not the Principal loses his job should depend entirely on the school's drug use policy. Would a janitor be fired if he / she were arrested for drugs? If so, then so should the pricipal. If not, neither should he.
thing is, if i got caught smoking pot in a park, i would go to jail, but he's a principal so he doesn't? that doesn't make any sense.
Quote from: porsche4786 on July 11, 2007, 11:14:31 AM
http://www.larslarson.com/NorthwestHeadlines/223222.aspx
this is f*cked up, this principal should lose his job and all benefits he has earned. but no, they decided to keep him on! :bs:
He's not smoking the pot on the job. If he comes to work stoned, fine, fire him. And, BTW, just legalize the stuff already. It's not more harmful than alcohol or tobacco used in moderation, and police/courts shouldn't have to waste taxpayers' money enforcing bans on pot. Concentrate on violent crime and drugs that really ARE harmful (like meth or refined cocaine).
BTW- if you're ever on a jury for a pot possession case not involving minors, please learn the meaning of the term "jury nullification."
Cheers,
b.
Quote from: porsche4786 on July 14, 2007, 10:57:24 AM
thing is, if i got caught smoking pot in a park, i would go to jail, but he's a principal so he doesn't? that doesn't make any sense.
Depending where you are -- in NY state you'd end up with a ticket and $100 fine for possession of small amounts (though the NYC cops have become harder on pot smokers since Rudy-boy's reign).
-b.