http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204630
Here's the post. Go to the link for pics.
"On June 5th.... I made an error that changed my life so unexpectedly! What caused the accident was done by me thousands of times before and I thought nothing different this time. Well, you're probablly thinking "what the hell happened" and "get on with the story already"!!! Well, I had the bike up on a rear stand and had just finished oiling the chain with WD-40. So, I start the bike, put it in gear and let the thing idle at 8 mph or so on the rear stand. I do this so the bike can fling the extra WD-40 off at home, instead of all over my pant leg when I'd go for a ride. Now, I've done this for as long as I can remember on just about all of my street bikes. Now, when the wheel was turning, I grabbed a rag and started wiping down the swing arm. Now, this is where everything went wrong!!! I didn't have the rag all waded up in my hand and had a part hanging down. Well, I ended up getting the loose end caught in the sprocket and chain! It jerked my hand downward so fast that I didn't have a chance to react! My middle and index fingers got pulled down into the rear sprocket/chain! As soon as I could react.... it was too late... my fingers tips were smashed off! When I jerked my hand back, I seen that my hand came back, but my gloves were still in there and that I was squirting blood all over the place. I imediately ran inside the house and grabbed a towel from the bathroom, wet it down in cold water, and wrapped my hand up. Now, nobody was home at the time!!! I ran and grabbed my cell and started making calls for help. Finally 5-10 minutes later, my wife came home. She got my wallet and I backed the wheel up and got my glove that held my severed finger tips in it and we flew to the E.R.. They were not able to reattach the finger tips because they said the blood vessels were too small and too difficult to attach again. Well, like I said.... it was the stupidest thing that I have ever done and will never do again!!! You ready for some pix now? Next posts have the pix."
Obviously, pics in the link are graphic, and if you're weak stomached, don't look at them...
Good f%$king God :o :o
Doesn't matter how many threads there are about lubing chains these dickheads will insist on doing it with WD-40, god damn morons.
:cookoo: Chill out koala-molester
The dude lost parts of his fingers :o Makes my temporary gnarly ass pins seem like nothing. My thumb/hand is still sore as all hell but my other fingers are at about 90% again and my thumb is gaining mobility everyday. Though, I generally PT it until I'm crying from the pain :cookoo:
Ouch!Sorry bout the fingers.
Terry,I thought WD40 was for cleaning chains?That's what I use it for.Then I use Repsol chain lube. :dunno_white:
Not saying i use it but read. It states that it can be used as a mechanical gear lubricant :dunno_white:
Quote from: spcterry on July 13, 2007, 12:09:58 AM
:cookoo: Chill out koala-molester
The dude lost parts of his fingers :o Makes my temporary gnarly ass pins seem like nothing. My thumb/hand is still sore as all hell but my other fingers are at about 90% again and my thumb is gaining mobility everyday. Though, I generally PT it until I'm crying from the pain :cookoo:
Don't tell me to chill out & you can shut the f%$k up about beastiality :flipoff:
Yeah the dude lost part of his fingers, because he was holding a piece of rag near the rear sprocket of a bike that is running. :cookoo:
What he did was careless & he paid the price.
Fine but I'm still convinced you shoot kangaroo from that stand on the back of your bike :icon_mrgreen: :laugh:
Yeah, he was being an idiot, but he paid the price.......and then some :o
Quote from: spcterry on July 13, 2007, 01:21:48 AM
Fine but I'm still convinced you shoot kangaroo from that stand on the back of your bike :icon_mrgreen: :laugh:
Yeah, he was being an idiot, but he paid the price.......and then some :o
What I do want to shoot is a pig & a goat with my .45 cal H&R muzzle loader :2guns:
Same thing happen to a member here, cut off his thumb....iirc it was "theycallmelenny"
Quote from: bubba zanetti on July 13, 2007, 12:02:05 AM
Doesn't matter how many threads there are about lubing chains these dickheads will insist on doing it with WD-40, god damn morons.
So......excessive use of WD-40 may result in torn ligaments :laugh:
I'm amazed at how people can be oblivious of clear danger ( besides riding the bike :) )
P.S. BTW JK ;)
I don't think WD-40 is the issue here. The issue is doing pretty much anything with the chain, with the bike in gear and running on the centerstand.
Yeah, if he didn't use WD-40, maybe he wouldn't have had the "fling" problem, and maybe he would have done it differently.. but a lot of lubricants "fling".
Shoulda had a Harley....wouldn't have had a chain to lube :flipoff:
Quote from: bubba zanetti on July 13, 2007, 12:02:05 AM
Doesn't matter how many threads there are about lubing chains these dickheads will insist on doing it with WD-40, god damn morons.
lol i think it has more to do with the guys bike running in gear than his choice of cleaning solvents.
Quote from: bubba zanetti on July 13, 2007, 01:28:10 AM
Quote from: spcterry on July 13, 2007, 01:21:48 AM
Fine but I'm still convinced you shoot kangaroo from that stand on the back of your bike :icon_mrgreen: :laugh:
Yeah, he was being an idiot, but he paid the price.......and then some :o
What I do want to shoot is a pig & a goat with my .45 cal H&R muzzle loader :2guns:
That could be a little messy :o :o Take video and post it :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Absolute Rescue on July 13, 2007, 05:39:14 AM
Shoulda had a Harley....wouldn't have had a chain to lube :flipoff:
My dad's sporty 1200 has a chain..which he routinely soaks in motor oil..and flings at my face as we're going down the road..
Lol shoulda specified...the new Harley's 2002? and up all have belt drives.
I do that all the time ... except ... I use the grunge brush and never get close enough to the chain, I also use a very loose grip and have it held with finger tips in the direction where it gets pulled out of my hands ... as in, hold with left hand sitting on the left of the bike cleaning on the bottom side of the chain.
I am usually so weak I never use enough force on anything.
Cool.
Srinath.
I use an 80 grit sanding block to scuff new rear tires up in this manner.
Never run the motor when lubing the chain seriously that shaZam! flies off and gets everywhere.
That guy is an idiot, I feel bad for him but wiping down the swingarm with the bike in gear is really stupid.
Nice reminder what not to do, run the bike on the centerstand while lubing the chain, forget that. God gave me ten fingers and I cant afford to loose any of them. I'll take the slow way, my neighbor uses kerosene and not WD-40, so I think I'll go with the kerosene next time I clean the chain which is another 180 miles. I have a chain lube but I'll clean it with kerosene and then lube it with a commercial chain lube from the shop. Be safe people.
:o :o :cookoo: :cookoo: that was retarded. good thing he never got to cleaning the back of the swing arm by putting his hand through the chain.
And now he will be know as Stumpy for the rest of his life.....
This post reminded me the motorcycle guru GSJack once posted his method of lubing/cleaning a chain finishing with "this is OK for me to do but you guys should not be doing it"
He was right.
Seriously lubing a chain while running the rear makes no sense. I use chainwax which is low fling but c'mon even low fling lubricant's need to set so the solvents can evaporate.
It makes zero sense to have nasty crap from a chain cleaning flung all over your bike and then getting lube slung all over it. If he hadn't been running the bike to begin with his swingarm nay not have needed cleaned so badly. :dunno_white:
Then again maybe if he was useing proper chain lube he wouldn't be tring to get all the extra wd 40 off his chain and swingarm.
Quote from: dgyver on July 13, 2007, 03:55:23 AM
Same thing happen to a member here, cut off his thumb....iirc it was "theycallmelenny"
I am the idiot in question, thanks for remembering.
In my case I was frustrated by cleaning a gunked up chain on a bike that had been sitting outside for over a year before I bought it. I resorted to that moronic approach and paid for it. Obviously a new chain would have been cheaper!
I am riding a shaft-drive now, though :laugh:
Quote from: bubba zanetti on July 13, 2007, 12:02:05 AM
Doesn't matter how many threads there are about lubing chains these dickheads will insist on doing it with WD-40, god damn morons.
If you goto WD40's website, there is a PDF file you can download...
ONE of the uses it states is to clean and lubricate motorcycle chains.
Reminds me of a story...
I happened to meet a furniture maker while at NAPA one afternoon and I noticed all 10 of his fingers looked "bent". I guess I was staring because he finally said; "Oh, yeah. I cut all 10 off last year but they were able to sew them back on. I turned to look out the window while making a narrow cut on the table saw, didn't feel a thing until I was on the way to the hospital. Doc said he's never seen such a clean cut before."
Now I use the Freud industrial line in my saws. Not only is the finish impressive, but it might increase my odds of getting my fingers back after a boo boo. (Only partially joking) :laugh: :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: bubba zanetti on July 13, 2007, 12:02:05 AM
Doesn't matter how many threads there are about lubing chains these dickheads will insist on doing it with WD-40, god damn morons.
...yeah because using WD40 is where he f%&ked up.
Yeah dude, you didn't know??? WD-40 has a nasty tendency to shop finger tips off all by itself :icon_rolleyes:
Nothing wrong with lubing a chain in gear, BTW. I do it all the time -- I just use a long handled paintbrush held loosely in my hand to do it. If it gets caught by the chain, the worst that'll happen will be a broken brush and possibly a wrecked chainguard. No risk of getting fingers sliced since I'm holding it loosely and am about 2 feet away...
-b.
seriously, why not remove all risk and not be a lazy fuckfaced retard. cut the f%$king engine and put it in nuetral :mad: the f%$king wheel will spin by hand and you have no risk of cutting off fingers :mad:
i cant seem to be able to quote but spcterry said
"seriously, why not remove all risk and not be a lazy f%$kfaced retard. cut the f%$king engine and put it in nuetral the f%$king wheel will spin by hand and you have no risk of cutting off fingers "
i agree 100%. and i don't even own a bike. but the same principle is applied when cleaning a bicycle chain is it not???
you need to clean and lube a bicycle chain? ???
Quote from: bosozoku on July 14, 2007, 06:49:35 AM
Nothing wrong with lubing a chain in gear, BTW. I do it all the time -- I just use a long handled paintbrush held loosely in my hand to do it. If it gets caught by the chain, the worst that'll happen will be a broken brush and possibly a wrecked chainguard. No risk of getting fingers sliced since I'm holding it loosely and am about 2 feet away...
-b.
This idea is retarded. There IS something wrong with lubing a bike in gear, and that is that it's f%$king DANGEROUS. Lube the damn thing by hand when the engine is off, because the chain WILL PULL as long as the bike is in neutral. Honestly, this is a stupid thing to argue about. Don't play with machinery while it's running unless the operator's manual tells you to.
mechanics 101 taught in grade 8, no rings, watches, or anything else dangling when working on engines or anything with moving parts. this guy was just lucky it did not happen sooner. btw wd40 if fine for chains and i know of many people using it even on race bikes. ya blaaa blaaa blaaa most the chain lub stuff is marketing and to the smart ass's those i knew using it have ridden longer than you, have more experience and bikes that make the gs look like a scooter
Quote from: frankieG on July 16, 2007, 12:25:04 PM
mechanics 101 taught in grade 8, no rings, watches, or anything else dangling when working on engines or anything with moving parts. this guy was just lucky it did not happen sooner. btw wd40 if fine for chains and i know of many people using it even on race bikes. ya blaaa blaaa blaaa most the chain lub stuff is marketing and to the smart ass's those i knew using it have ridden longer than you, have more experience and bikes that make the gs look like a scooter
Ya know.. I stood up for you.. but the more of your posts I read, the less I like you...
well I know that can't be good for your riding skills. see why I want everything done by somebody else :nono:
Quote from: cerius on July 16, 2007, 04:30:04 PM
well I know that can't be good for your riding skills. see why I want everything done by somebody else :nono:
You don't have to have everything done by someone else.. you just have to not be an idiot.
Quote from: frankieG on July 16, 2007, 12:25:04 PM
btw wd40 if fine for chains and i know of many people using it even on race bikes.
WD-40 is a water displacer, developed as a rust preventative for military rifles. It's not a lubricant, nor was it intended as such. If you're going to go with a "cheap" chain lube, you'd be better off using something like 90wt gear oil or spray grease.
-b.
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 16, 2007, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: frankieG on July 16, 2007, 12:25:04 PM
mechanics 101 taught in grade 8, no rings, watches, or anything else dangling when working on engines or anything with moving parts. this guy was just lucky it did not happen sooner. btw wd40 if fine for chains and i know of many people using it even on race bikes. ya blaaa blaaa blaaa most the chain lub stuff is marketing and to the smart ass's those i knew using it have ridden longer than you, have more experience and bikes that make the gs look like a scooter
Ya know.. I stood up for you.. but the more of your posts I read, the less I like you...
? :dunno_white:
bosozuku is right...WD40 is not intended as a lubricant. It's a solvent developed as a corrosion preventative and a cleaner. It has nearly no viscosity.
Quote from: frankieG on July 16, 2007, 05:12:10 PM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 16, 2007, 12:43:01 PM
Quote from: frankieG on July 16, 2007, 12:25:04 PM
mechanics 101 taught in grade 8, no rings, watches, or anything else dangling when working on engines or anything with moving parts. this guy was just lucky it did not happen sooner. btw wd40 if fine for chains and i know of many people using it even on race bikes. ya blaaa blaaa blaaa most the chain lub stuff is marketing and to the smart ass's those i knew using it have ridden longer than you, have more experience and bikes that make the gs look like a scooter
Ya know.. I stood up for you.. but the more of your posts I read, the less I like you...
? :dunno_white:
You're dumb, and arrogant, and seem almost proud of being ignorant. Makes it hard to like you.
what ever you say kid... :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo:
Quote from: frankieG on July 16, 2007, 06:50:20 PM
what ever you say kid... :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo:
See? There you go again.
There's a reason terry started a thread about you in the tard farm... and we thought everybody hated him.
Ummmm I didn't start that thread.........
Quote from: spcterry on July 16, 2007, 07:39:45 PM
Ummmm I didn't start that thread.........
Oh, my bad.
But everyone still hates you. Just less than Frankie.
:thumb: :thumb:
i just read on the WD40 website that one of the uses is lubrication. are they lying?
Quote from: jserio on July 16, 2007, 09:16:45 PM
i just read on the WD40 website that one of the uses is lubrication. are they lying?
It's not going to last 600+ miles in outdoor conditions. Might be OK for freeing a stuck door hinge, but not for a bike chain.
-b.
Quote from: jserio on July 16, 2007, 09:16:45 PM
i just read on the WD40 website that one of the uses is lubrication. are they lying?
Minor lubrication, maybe. I'd use it on a squeaky hinge.. not for my chain. I use it to clean, it penetrates decently well, and will flush out grime. By itself though, it is not viscous enough to provide lasting lubrication to the chain. I also won't use it in things like ignition locks, as it has a tendency to attract and trap dust, which is why dry graphite lubes are the best for ignitions and locks.
Chain wax was made for a reason. Or use wd-40, motor oil, your lube of choice, but lube after every ride... I ride every day 20 miles to and from work.. don't have time to lube my chain every day, so I use chain wax and lube every 500 miles or so, more often when I'm riding in the rain.
edit: I typed my post, but was slowed by that damn 45 second post limit... went to another website and came back to paste my reply, which is more or less a more verbose version of boso's post...
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on July 16, 2007, 09:32:41 PM
Chain wax was made for a reason. Or use wd-40, motor oil, your lube of choice, but lube after every ride...
Or get an auto-oiler like a Scotoiler... Clean and adjust the chain every 600 mi or so, but you won't worry about running dry.
-b.
Quote from: jserio on July 16, 2007, 09:16:45 PM
i just read on the WD40 website that one of the uses is lubrication. are they lying?
They aren't lying, they're just slightly misrepresenting the usefulness of their product. It CAN be used to lube chains, it just won't last long.
Personally I use WD40 to clean the chain, then spray on some chain wax.