GStwin.com GS500 Message Forum

Main Area => General GS500 Discussion => Topic started by: rhino66549 on July 16, 2007, 03:07:57 PM

Title: integrated tail light install
Post by: rhino66549 on July 16, 2007, 03:07:57 PM
I am installing a smoke integrated tail light and I ordered it from clear alternatives. Where does the electronic flasher hook up on the bike? How do I eliminate the old turn signals? What did you do with the wires that ran to the old turn signals? thanks
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: frankieG on July 16, 2007, 03:11:58 PM
use a quick connect directly to you old lights and don't bother with the flasher bit
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: rhino66549 on July 16, 2007, 03:53:55 PM
Is there a place I can find out exactly how to hook them up?
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: pbureau69 on July 16, 2007, 04:00:20 PM
easy peasy...

1. remove your seat
2. unscrew one of the turn signals (now follow the lead there is a quick disconnect along the side of the underside of seat.
3. use on of the yellow wires of the tailight, connect it and turn on teh flasher for that side.. check its the correct one for the tailight if not swap yellow wires... if right one, solder and or use quick connect

4. repeat for other side..

what I did... easy peasy... if you need picture lmk...
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: mach1 on July 16, 2007, 04:02:00 PM
Your new tail light cluster will have wires for the runing lights and brake lights. What shoudl be done is you will cut the wires form your old turn signals and splice them with the brake light wires. You should end up with both the brake light and left turn signal going into the same wire and do the same for the other side. everything else will be easy. Hope that helps if you need some pictures or a diagram PM me and Ill help you.    
   
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: rhino66549 on July 16, 2007, 04:02:25 PM
Another question is how do the relays hook up or do I even need them? These are probably stupid questions but it would be nice to know. thanks
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: frankieG on July 16, 2007, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: rhino66549 on July 16, 2007, 04:02:25 PM
Another question is how do the relays hook up or do I even need them? These are probably stupid questions but it would be nice to know. thanks
if your signals are blinking fast after hooking them up you need them. unless of course you prefer the faster flash rate
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: average on July 16, 2007, 04:53:41 PM
Im sorry guys...I just don't see why some members have a heart attack about their signals blinking fast. To me its nothing but an attention grabber, but on the same token makes you more visible  :dunno_white:


O0
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: Jay_wolf on July 16, 2007, 05:12:45 PM
Unless ur in the Uk , where they Have to flash between 60-120 times a min, anymore they fail the MOT
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: rhino66549 on July 16, 2007, 08:08:30 PM
Thanks for the help I got it hooked up and it looks good, I appreciate it.
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: Suzuk-E on August 06, 2007, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: pbureau69 on July 16, 2007, 04:00:20 PM
easy peasy...

1. remove your seat
2. unscrew one of the turn signals (now follow the lead there is a quick disconnect along the side of the underside of seat.
3. use on of the yellow wires of the tailight, connect it and turn on teh flasher for that side.. check its the correct one for the tailight if not swap yellow wires... if right one, solder and or use quick connect

4. repeat for other side..

what I did... easy peasy... if you need picture lmk...



K, I'm an idiot.

By doing this would your tail light then work as a brakelight AND blinkers?

Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: CndnMax on August 06, 2007, 12:57:36 PM
mach1: I believe the integrated clear alternative is a plug and play for the brake lights so no splicing would be required for the brake just the turn signals. correct me if im wrong.

here's another question: could u splice the integrated signals into the signal wires while having buell signals connected also? would having the integrated plus the 2 buel signals blinking use up too much power?
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: pbureau69 on August 08, 2007, 09:21:15 AM
Quote from: Suzuk-E on August 06, 2007, 12:39:58 PM
K, I'm an idiot.
By doing this would your tail light then work as a brakelight AND blinkers?

if you bought the taillight that permits this, the answer is yes, meaning you don't need the rear turn signals...
looks like this when all done and said.

short movie of it in action
http://www.longcoeur.com/gs500mods/leds/Interated_tailight_led.wmv (http://www.longcoeur.com/gs500mods/leds/Interated_tailight_led.wmv)

photo of rear end
(http://www.longcoeur.com/gs500mods/fenderectomy/S5000716.JPG)

Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: CoyotesFan84 on August 10, 2007, 03:44:08 PM
I have a question pertaining to the taillight. This might have been covered, but I'm semi-retarded, so forgive me if it has. I just want to make sure I'd be doing everything correctly.

Clear alternatives has this part:
http://clearalternatives.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CA&Product_Code=CTL-0026-2-IT&Category_Code=Ckear.GS (http://clearalternatives.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CA&Product_Code=CTL-0026-2-IT&Category_Code=Ckear.GS)

This looks like it's only the electrical part that hooks into the taillights to MAKE them integrated. So in essence, what I'm asking is would I have to purchase the above part with this part...
http://clearalternatives.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CA&Product_Code=CTL-0026-2-L&Category_Code=Ckear.GS (http://clearalternatives.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CA&Product_Code=CTL-0026-2-L&Category_Code=Ckear.GS)

to make my turn signals an integrated turn signal?

I'm looking to do this as inexpensive as possible. Is it going to cost $160 to integrate? Thanks for the help!!!  :bowdown:
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: CndnMax on August 10, 2007, 05:13:37 PM
you would just need to buy the integrator, the 2nd link is for the led clusters if u just wanted brake lights, hence why they still have the signals on the bike. the integrated signals are not DOT approved. personally i would go with the led cluster and with the money you save get the clear lenses for your signals or even better get buell signals 
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: CoyotesFan84 on August 10, 2007, 09:08:43 PM
If integrated LED's are not DOT approved, why do people use them? Is there any risk of not being able to get your motorcycle registered due to not meeting inspection requirements? I really like the look of integrated LED's and would prefer to do an Uber-Fenderectomy
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: CndnMax on August 10, 2007, 09:27:21 PM
you can get some crap from the Leo about it. i doubt it would stop you from registering it, but im not to sure what that whole inspection is about.
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: average on August 10, 2007, 11:47:10 PM
I believe only the 01 plus bikes lenses can be changed out for the clears. Ask Wrecent_Wryder. He has done it.  O0
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: pbureau69 on August 11, 2007, 04:18:21 AM
Did you buy the LED tailight ? (confused) , if you did then yes the integrated taillight module is pretty much your only choice, and maybe consider simply buying mini rear turn signals and mount them close to the license plate area as many have done in the past.

If you did not buy it yet, then take a look at this link Xtreme Discount Cycle --> http://search.stores.ebay.com/Xtreme-Discount-Cycle_suzuki-gs_W0QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ4QQfsnZXtremeQ20DiscountQ20CycleQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfsubZ9QQsaselZ9160989QQsofpZ0 (http://search.stores.ebay.com/Xtreme-Discount-Cycle_suzuki-gs_W0QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ4QQfsnZXtremeQ20DiscountQ20CycleQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfsubZ9QQsaselZ9160989QQsofpZ0)

This guy (which I bought it from) sells the LED tailight with integrated turns signals for 89-00 (63$) and 01-07 (81$) usually in clear or smoke (I bought a smoke from him myself and very happy with the result, visible all the time, and I just did my inspection last week at a dealership and they did not think anything of it, of course this is america were almost all bike sports and cruisers Have intgreated tailights.

About laws on turn signals, I beleive in America  the turn signals can be part of brake lights as, a great many cars have only 2 tailights and when you turn, that brake light starts blinking while the other brake stays on (while braking) , so I dont think that it have anything do do with it,  but I beleive the regulations y'all are talking about is concerning the "distance seperating the turnsignals" than actually the turn signal vs brake light locations. this will probably vary depending on country and (in usa - state you reside in)

for example... I live in texas, and the legistlations about turn signals on motorcycles is; (exerpt below note the bold part)

TRC ยง547.324.

TURN SIGNAL LAMPS REQUIRED.

(1) shall be mounted at the same level and spaced as widely apart as practicable on the front and on the rear of the vehicle; and

And this is why in Texas you are allowed to have integrated tailights ladies and gentlemen
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: CoyotesFan84 on August 11, 2007, 07:58:06 AM
I have not purchased anything as of yet. I wanted to make sure I was getting the right products before I actually hit the "Buy" button. And thanks for the clarification. As per the legality, from everything I've read in the Arizona Revised Statutes, it's legal. I see other sportbikes with integrated tail lights all the time. And that Xtreme discount shop has the Clear Alternatives Clear LED WITH integrator for $81?
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: pbureau69 on August 12, 2007, 03:38:45 AM
read the description :)

<I am not going to wipe your bottom now, be a good boy and try to read the information given on that link I gave you>
:thumb:
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: CoyotesFan84 on August 12, 2007, 10:11:58 AM
Quote from: pbureau69 on August 12, 2007, 03:38:45 AM
read the description :)

<I am not going to wipe your bottom now, be a good boy and try to read the information given on that link I gave you>
:thumb:

Lol... I did! I'm just a little cautious, that's all. It's like a new baby (I'd imagine... I don't have kids). I don't want to do anything wrong that might harm it's future later! Thanks for the info sir. I'll toss it around and see about picking one up.
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: frankieG on August 12, 2007, 07:14:03 PM
Quote from: CndnMax on August 10, 2007, 05:13:37 PM
you would just need to buy the integrator, the 2nd link is for the led clusters if u just wanted brake lights, hence why they still have the signals on the bike. the integrated signals are not DOT approved. personally i would go with the led cluster and with the money you save get the clear lenses for your signals or even better get buell signals 

what a load of crap...indicators are not required in most states and all provinces, plain old hand signals are still and always have been legal
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: CndnMax on August 12, 2007, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: frankieG on August 12, 2007, 07:14:03 PM
Quote from: CndnMax on August 10, 2007, 05:13:37 PM
you would just need to buy the integrator, the 2nd link is for the led clusters if u just wanted brake lights, hence why they still have the signals on the bike. the integrated signals are not DOT approved. personally i would go with the led cluster and with the money you save get the clear lenses for your signals or even better get buell signals 

what a load of crap...indicators are not required in most states and all provinces, plain old hand signals are still and always have been legal
i didn't say anything about being illegal, i said they weren't DOT approved  :cookoo:
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: RRRAWRRR on April 16, 2012, 08:29:50 PM
Gonna be hated for bringing back this ancient thread. I tried opening the links and they are all shut down. Got the LED integrated clear alternatives tail light for the 04 GS500f. Only problem is 3 wires come out the back (red, black, green) and all are hot glued in to a tai light bulb stock. I am wanting to integrate the entire system to do running, brake, and turn signals. I'm a chemist so I am confused on where to solder the turn signals onto? The instructions that came with the lights explain nothing except how to remove the stock lens. Any help?

(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh245/poppycocke/023.jpg)

Here is what im working with

(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh245/poppycocke/020-1.jpg)

Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: adidasguy on April 16, 2012, 08:37:42 PM
That doesn't have turn signals. If it did, there would be 2 extra wires.
Title: Re: integrated tail light install
Post by: RRRAWRRR on April 16, 2012, 08:39:05 PM
Quote from: adidasguy on April 16, 2012, 08:37:42 PM
That doesn't have turn signals. If it did, there would be 2 extra wires.

LAME!!! They sent me the wrong light then! Thanks for the info!