as i was fixing up my 94 GS, a friend who owned an 04 GS told me about this:
if someone is up on your @$$ following too close, use your foot to push down on the centerstand till it rubbs the street, should put off a nice show of sparks!!! :o i imagine the harder you press the more sparks youll get. of course, the stand wont last forever if you keep it up, but imagine itd be pretty effective. at least at night..
people following you will think your bike is about to blow up or that your :cookoo: KOO KOO! he said he had done it several times and not only did the offending drivers back off, they also changed lanes and got as far away as possible!
anyone ever done this before? share stories! come on, i know a couple of you GS'ers that live close by wanna make a youtube video of this!
Uhh.. or you'll lever your rear up just enough to highside.
If someone's tailgating.. twist that wrist, and get the hell away from them (And move out of their way ASAP, or they'll just be tailgating you at higher speeds)
While I think the sparks thing is a funny story.. I also think it's pretty stupid. Right up there with carrying pennies in a bag so you can toss em over your shoulder at a windshield. I laugh about it all the time, but I'd never do it.
How are you going to highside while riding in a straight line?
Sounds to me to be a great way to have a stack - and with someone tailgating you they'll go straight over the top of you.
But hey, it probably will make a lasting impression on them! :o
Quote from: makenzie71 on July 16, 2007, 09:59:08 PM
How are you going to highside while riding in a straight line?
by levering the rear up and having it move a bit. Not saying it's likely. Just possible. I think it'd be cool to see.. I don't condone it as a method of making tailgaters back off. Besides.. I took my centerstand off long ago.
Ok look at it like a rational person:
Ever see people at a fireworks show? oooooooo aaaaaaaaaa staring blankly at the sparklies. I don't know about you but putting fireworks in front of an incredibly, in general, easily distracted populace doesn't sound like a good idea. It's a better sounding idea than when I hear about riders hanging on to d-cell batteries...because I'm sure that ditzy blond in the suburban deserves to be skulled because you think she's in your personal bubble...I cringe when I think about people who talk about doing shaZam! like that while knowing there's folks on the road taking their toddlers to jamboree.
Got a tailgater? Pull over or into another lane and let them pass.
NGFL...next time you're tootin about a stock gs why don't you see if you can push the centerstand down hard enough to lift a noticeable portion of the bike while seated. I don't know about the GS, but it'd take considerably more than my 155lbs on the lever to lift my CX up (440lbs wet). Also, it takes a lot more than a little wiggle to highside. I could back my TL in like a damn motard when the mood hit me. There's a lot of things that can happen by doing the centerstand thing, but a highside isn't one of them.
bahaha.. don't have a stock GS, and don't have a centerstand. And the fireworks thing is a good point.. I didn't really think about that. People are stupid.. don't give them a reason to be even more stupid.
hehe. so funny to read these replys.
yes the person who told me about this isnt entirely sane. in fact, he is a professional stunter. highchairs, circle wheelies, 180 stoppies, before breakfast...dont get me wrong he IS a crazy dude, but he also has skills...he also has a broken foot at the moment :laugh: but he has no regrets. this isnt about him though.
he actually said it worked quite well. your not going to highside unless you stomp on that stand with all your weight like you were trying to kickstart a harley. just a tiny bit of contact is enough, dear god...dont try to put the bike ON the stand while rolling down the freeway!!!, just make it rub the road. not hard to figure out...
when i was younger and didnt mind being rediculous, i put about 100 tacks on the bottom of my shoes...id put my feet down (only at slow speeds, like 20ish) and throw sparks. its not like i was trying to stand up, just a gentle scrape. thats all youd have to do on the centerstand, enough for a gentle scrape. im totally going to try it, call me a squid if you want to. :laugh:
Sparks, as long as it's for just a second or so, should wake someone up. I know when I've been taking a long road trip and someone flicks a butt I always wake up fast. It might not work more than once, and it'll grind down your centerstand, but might work the first time.
I've heard worse ideas. :laugh:
Just install a flame thrower kit on the exhaust or get a coil and spark plug.Richen up the mixture a little,wire the coil from one of the ignition pick ups,drill and screww the plug in near the exhaust tip.Oh you'll need a switch to turn the system off when coppers are around.Giver a rev turn it on a poof flames shooting out the back.I used to do that to my old VW beetles that had the stinger exhaust.Burnt a couple plastic front bumpers up. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
^haha my TL, when the TRE was off, ran nasty rich 1st through 4th gear. WOT from 3~11k she spat a pretty blue flame out the pipes...it was a real attention getter...
At the local shop, the mechanic was having a hard time convincing a guy his bike was mega rich and needed a re-jet. Eventually he had me pin the throttle about half open and lit a grill lighter at the exhaust tip. Flames shot several feet across the shop :o :laugh: :laugh: The guy was convinced after that :icon_rolleyes:
This has to be some of the worst advice I've read on this forum.
The MSF tells how to deal with unruly drivers.
Quote from: ohgood on July 17, 2007, 02:20:35 AM
This has to be some of the worst advice I've read on this forum.
The MSF tells how to deal with unruly drivers.
I've got no idea what the MSF advice is, but generally if someone is tailgating me I'll activate the brake light's using the front brake, usually this'll work. If they keep tailgating I'll pull over & let them go ahead.
+1000000, with what oh good said.
Let'em go by turning off to a side road or business parking lot.
Pissing off the tailgater is not the way to go.
Yeah if someone is tailgating me becasue I'm moving slow because there is another car in front of me that is going slow, I'll motion with my left arm to back off the same way you would to another rider (dont flick the person off). If there is no one in front of me and I just didn't want to go that fast I'd just pull over, although this has never happened.
Frankly, I don't see what the issue is. If someone is tailgating you, its a hazard to your life. Why the hell would you want to let that continue for even a minute longer than possible - just pull over
IF someone threw something at my car I would probably runthem over. :2guns: I'f I made it though the imidiate rage I would follow them and ask them kindly to pay for the damages. I would never tailgate a bike but I could see others haveing the same ideas.
I have been stuck in traffic, I first hit the brakes, that didn't work so I turned around for a second and looked them in the face with my hand out like what the fu#$. that worked
You could jump on the center stand like an ape on an ant but its not going to highside. :laugh:
i will tell you another funny story !
in Hato Rey, Puerto Rico its like the Big Apple (Bank Zone) there ar 1000nd of motorcycle messenger people! i was at the red ligth and them at my side was a motorcyle delivery man . with a rebel 750 the car behind him stop almost above the delivery man, the delivery man went mad and say to the car (come on hit me muther fu..cker)
and you know what, the car hit em ! jejejeje that was funny the delivery man step off the floor and start to insult the old man on the car . the driver of the car was very relax untill the delivery man went close to the window of the car driver, the old man pull out a 357 magnum and step out the car !! hahahahahah ahahahah ahahaha hahahah that was more funny than the hit. the delivery boy run to the floor where was the bike, left the bike from the floor and he was like on a pit on drag race broom broom brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomm !! it took 2 second for vanish from the red light ....
and for the sparkling thing ... i just hope the center stand never get stuck on a bump or hole ! then you will fly like superman...
Ok, when someone is on your tail, the proper way to deal with that is to increase your following distance from the person in front of you. That way you have escape routes from any situation either from the front or behind. More than 90% (per msf) of accidents causes are located between 11 o'clock and 1 o'clock in front of you anyway. If there is a safe location to let them pass, then let them. If not, don't do anything to distract or anger the driver behind you (sparks), or to compromise your own safety buffer. Accelerating away from the tailgater will only reduce your forward buffer, and the tailgater will probably close the gap anyway, then you're stuck between two 3000+lb anvils. :nono:
That's the proper way to deal with tailgaters...however, if anyone wants to try the centerstand idea, be sure to share the story! :thumb:
Quote from: DaxFX on July 17, 2007, 09:11:36 AM
i will tell you another funny story !
in Hato Rey, Puerto Rico its like the Big Apple (Bank Zone) there ar 1000nd of motorcycle messenger people! i was at the red ligth and them at my side was a motorcyle delivery man . with a rebel 750 the car behind him stop almost above the delivery man, the delivery man went mad and say to the car (come on hit me muther fu..cker)
and you know what, the car hit em ! jejejeje that was funny the delivery man step off the floor and start to insult the old man on the car . the driver of the car was very relax untill the delivery man went close to the window of the car driver, the old man pull out a 357 magnum and step out the car !! hahahahahah ahahahah ahahaha hahahah that was more funny than the hit. the delivery boy run to the floor where was the bike, left the bike from the floor and he was like on a pit on drag race broom broom brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomm !! it took 2 second for vanish from the red light ....
and for the sparkling thing ... i just hope the center stand never get stuck on a bump or hole ! then you will fly like superman...
uhhh what? I never understand you Borat
Quote from: darb85 on July 17, 2007, 10:46:26 AM
Quote from: DaxFX on July 17, 2007, 09:11:36 AM
i will tell you another funny story !
in Hato Rey, Puerto Rico its like the Big Apple (Bank Zone) there ar 1000nd of motorcycle messenger people! i was at the red ligth and them at my side was a motorcyle delivery man . with a rebel 750 the car behind him stop almost above the delivery man, the delivery man went mad and say to the car (come on hit me muther fu..cker)
and you know what, the car hit em ! jejejeje that was funny the delivery man step off the floor and start to insult the old man on the car . the driver of the car was very relax untill the delivery man went close to the window of the car driver, the old man pull out a 357 magnum and step out the car !! hahahahahah ahahahah ahahaha hahahah that was more funny than the hit. the delivery boy run to the floor where was the bike, left the bike from the floor and he was like on a pit on drag race broom broom brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomm !! it took 2 second for vanish from the red light ....
and for the sparkling thing ... i just hope the center stand never get stuck on a bump or hole ! then you will fly like superman...
uhhh what? I never understand you Borat
It's not that difficult to cypher:
In Hato Rey, Puerto Rico, it's like the Big Apple (Bank Zone). There are 1000's of motorcycle messenger people! i was at the red light and at my side was a motorcycle delivery man with a rebel 750. The car behind him stopped almost on top of the delivery man. The delivery man got angry and yelled to the driver "come on, hit me muther fucker!" And you know what, the car hit him! Hahahaha that was funny! The delivery man got up and started insulting the old man in the car. The driver of the car was very calm untll the delivery man got too his window. Then the old man pulled out a 357 magnum and got out the car!! hahahahahah ahahahah ahahaha hahahah that was more funny than the hit. The delivery man ran back to his bike, picked it up, and left like he was drag racing.
Quote from: darb85 on July 17, 2007, 10:46:26 AM
uhhh what? I never understand you Borat
sorry for my english ! I am from PR and my language is Spanish !! what means Borat?
Borat= incredibly stupid movie that could only have been produced by the f%$king idiots in hollywood, because no other country would dare put out a movie so blatantly stupid.
Quote from: spcterry on July 17, 2007, 11:59:13 AM
Borat= incredibly stupid movie that could only have been produced by the f%$king idiots in hollywood, because no other country would dare put out a movie so blatantly stupid.
agreed, and just to be clear, I find it amusing, Im not trying to be an ass but every time i read your post thats what it reminds me of.
thanks Mac for the traslation :laugh:
Twas A Excellent Translation! :thumb:
go to hell and dont read ! take out your eyes or dont come in here !
I can read what u say , i just thought it was a good translation , No offence meant
Just for reference, I checked, In georgia you would be charged with a 6-point offense for trying this. It is considered aggressive behavior and reckless driving :thumb:
post videos !!!!!
Quote from: DaxFX on July 17, 2007, 02:18:55 PM
go to hell and dont read ! take out your eyes or dont come in here !
sorry man, I wasnt trying to be an ass.
I didn't even waste my time with Borat.Weren't the producers sued by another country or some dumb crap like that?
HEY! stop hijacking my thread!
go make your own borat thread, allready.
this thread is for uber squidly sparking centerstand discussion!
Quote from: Chris24 on July 17, 2007, 06:43:22 PM
HEY! stop hijacking my thread!
go make your own borat thread, allready.
this thread is for uber squidly sparking centerstand discussion!
And I think the concensus is that scraping the CS is stupid and the best idea is to pull over and let the tailgater pass.
Agreed. Let's move on...
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party poopers.
lemme guess. yall are also disgusted by doing wheelies on the gs500, even in a private parking lot with gear on.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1602426291352040316&q=gs500+wheelies&total=19&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2
A. nothing wrong with a little stunting on private property and with gear, popping a wheel up is fun.
B. Those wheelies sucked more kangaroo balls than bubba :o :laugh:
haha. yea. got to agree with that. you cant make them too much better on the gs. :icon_confused:
i learned my first wheelies on a 1990 yamaha fzr1000. no clutch 1st gear. fun but scary.
im gonna learn to do them on the gs as well, though. still a chance to get hurt, but i think alot less than popping them on a gsxr or similar.
I'm not digusted by wheelies on a GS, I'm just too old and cranky to give a rats arse about stunting and crap like that. :flipoff:
I was just stating that grinding your CS is NOT the prefered method of discouraging tailgaters. :cookoo:
Oh buttercup, haven't you got something on your bike to go and break, instead of being an ass on here. :laugh:
ehhhh.......pretty sure I already stripped a pilot jet :mad: And the f%$king header bolt is still stuck............and the braces that hold the carbs inline....the screw that attach em wont budge :mad: :mad:
wd-40 it to death, and give it TIME to work. i see people spray wd-40 and try right away like its magic.
if possible try a impact driver, there are manual handpowered ones. you hit the driver with a hammer, and on the end is your bit, the hit gets turned into a sudden twist, its good for ornery bolts.
as for the stripped pilot. i dunno, but let me know how that works out. i stripped mine taking them out, but was somehow able to get them out and back in. getting it back out again next time i do the carb is gonna suck cause im gonna have to deal with that too.
If you stripped it you may not have gotten it back in tight........watch for funny idling.........don't ask how I know about that :oops:
Quote from: Chris24 on July 17, 2007, 07:28:15 PM
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party poopers.
lemme guess. yall are also disgusted by doing wheelies on the gs500, even in a private parking lot with gear on.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1602426291352040316&q=gs500+wheelies&total=19&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2
A helmet on its own doesn't count as 'gear'.
+100000000000000000000000000000000
My bike doesnt move from it's own power without me being in full gear
Quote from: spcterry on July 17, 2007, 09:11:24 PM
If you stripped it you may not have gotten it back in tight........watch for funny idling.........don't ask how I know about that :oops:
well i kind of stripped it only in the counter-clockwise direction. now its kind of like one of those security screws.
Quote from: Unnamed on July 17, 2007, 09:12:47 PM
A helmet on its own doesn't count as 'gear'.
ill agree with that too. helmet, jacket, boots, and even riding pants are a good idea.
something alot of people overlook...a buddy! if your going to stunt dont do it alone, bring a friend even if they are justr watching. god forbid if something happens to you, you may not be able to call yourself an ambulance or get your self to the hospital.
even with something minor like a hairline fracture to the arm, you may not be able to get your bike up, or ride it.
Why don't do the same affect but with your shoes, just attatch a metal side plate on the area of your choice on the bottom of your boots then ta dah ! put foot down and you have sparks. I use to do the same thing with my bicycle, I would nail a couple nails to a wood piece and tie a string to it and drag it along behind me down hills and what not. same principal just with shoes or boots. I have some setup boots that have a fron piece i could remove and attach some metal grind plats to. One day il test it out.
Idea #2
buy some snap its and through behind you.
idea #3
maybe experiment with some of those cheap toy gun explosives that go off when u hit them hard enough. maybe somebody could have an idea with those somehow
I think i would try the first one out of them all though, easiest and couldn't be that expensive.
What about , fab a Remote grenade dropper ,. ask Spcterry for sum Grenades , Just have a buttom on the bike , no more Tailgaters!
^^^ I'd buy one :laugh:
i just look back at them and give a little get back wave and that works most of the time. i follow it up with a :thumb: because i wear a full face chromed and you can't see my face. if that doesn't work i split......fast
well im in a big suzuki jacket , with a full face snake Helmet with a black tint , im 6ft 3 , and the fact the bike is smallish . and whatver . and i keep a Socket Wrench in my jacket just incase i need to have a lil dance.... i wave the away , and thats about it
Quote from: Jay_wolf on July 18, 2007, 02:30:04 PM
well im in a big suzuki jacket , with a full face snake Helmet with a black tint , im 6ft 3 , and the fact the bike is smallish . and whatver . and i keep a Socket Wrench in my jacket just incase i need to have a lil dance.... i wave the away , and thats about it
That's a little crazy don't you think? somebody could take that offensive and could cause a real problem
They could do ive knocked 3 wingmirrors off , going thro the centre of traffic and i stop and just stare , they dont even look at me ,
and as for the socket wrench, i keep i cant remember the socket to loosen the rear wheel , so if im asked why i have it i can say my wheels been slipping , and im having to adjust it and i cant take the risk of having a loose chain :thumb:
I think we need to have a cold shower & calm down. It's been stated before what is the best action to take when being tailgated.
Last thing we need to do is encourage people to think that it is ok stir up car drivers and to carry weapons on them while riding, or to damage cars. :o These things may happen out on the road, but we do not need to encourage these sort of actions. The sort of actions described in this thread could be conceived by some car drivers as aggresive and therefore see the bike rider injured by the car driver or even killed. You have to remember that there are a lot of crazies out there, and that doesn't matter what country you live in or how big you are, it's best not to give them a reason to flip their switch.
I know emotions can get heated while out on the road, but it's better to back down and make it home alive than end up in a hospital ward, police cell or even on a slab in a morgue.