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Title: stalling in Boston (update)
Post by: Boston500F on July 21, 2007, 08:23:11 PM
Hi,

I own a 2004 gs500f, just passed 5,000 miles. Initial service by dealer @ 1,000 miles, oil changed by myself @ 4,000 miles. winterized properly (sta-bil etc.) No engine mods.

past few days my bike has been stalling a lot when i come to a stop sign or a red light.

thought it was because it needed a longer time to warm up, so I increased warm up time but no change.

used "searched" function and gathered a number of suggestions (re-jet, fouled plug(s), clogged fuel lines/pet chicken, idle adjustment, and so on...)

I was hoping to narrow that list....not very mechanically inclined, but willing to try if easy fix, your experience would be appreciated.

usually i start it up full choke, runs @ 4k and i slowly drop the choke 3k, 2k, then i let it idle for a few minutes before i ride.

past few days when i push the choke down from 2k it dies and i have to re-start

after warm up I can drive a mile away from my house and come to a light and it will die (intermittent) it only happens on short rides. when I drive to work (15 Miles) and get off the highway it idles around 1200 - 1400 and never dies at stops

Thanks

    -Marco in Boston

Title: Re: stalling in Boston
Post by: Affschnozel on July 22, 2007, 03:15:19 AM
GS is a mean lean machine by it's nature (from the factory) so first thing to do is rejet it even if everything is stock
you can find recommended settings in the wiki:
http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500/Upgrades/Rejetting (http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500/Upgrades/Rejetting)

As for the neutral light and gears , try to adjust the clutch cable and clutch release mechanism to eliminate any probs with that at least ,
when you stop in first and try for neutral it can get tricky sometimes because of clutch drag
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=20468.0 (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=20468.0)
Title: Re: stalling in Boston
Post by: Affschnozel on July 22, 2007, 03:25:32 AM
It dies when it's in gear? How does your clutch feel?
I have a feeling it's only about clutch/release mechanism adjustment and nothing else

Try this ,start and let it warm ,choke off ,let it idle (at ~1200rpm) ,clutch in ,first in (hold clutch in) if the rpm goes down...it's clutch drag  :thumb:

Title: Re: stalling in Boston
Post by: Kasumi on July 22, 2007, 04:19:00 AM
Hrmmm i have a feeling it could be electrical, On long rides on the highway when he gets off no problems - bike has been running along time at proper temperature and at constant speed thus the battery would be getting a constant supply from the alternator enough to keep it charged fulled, When stopping and starting in traffic or on short rides it appears to stall or rather cut out i would imagine as you are not driving just coming to a holt and it dies, becuase of the stop start the bike can't recoupe power in the battery in time. Lots of bikes batteries will lose charge when used for short commuting because there isnt enough time for the battery to recoupe from the effort of starting the bike. However this doesn't explain exactly why the bike stops because the engine revolving should provide enough charge for the next spark to keep the engine going. I would look at alternator and battery and also check your sparkplugs for lean/richness.
Title: Re: stalling in Boston
Post by: manofthefield on July 22, 2007, 06:56:10 AM
My thought, is that even though, you've extended your warm up time, the bike still isn't warmed up enough by the time you come to the first stoplight.  The remedy is to remember that you are still warming up as you ride your first few miles, so it may die at a stop light, but you could give it just a little throttle to keep it going... until it warms up fully.

The other suggestions may be good to check as well.  I like the clutch drag suggestion
Title: Re: stalling in Boston
Post by: ben2go on July 22, 2007, 09:04:07 PM
my bike did that a few times and the switch on the kick stand was bad.The switch keeps you from starting the bike in gear with the side stand down.It could also be the neutral switch sticking or loose.I couldn't find a parts diagram.The kick stand switch is under your left peg and the neutral switch is under the side engine cover next to the chain.
Title: Re: stalling in Boston (update)
Post by: Boston500F on August 18, 2007, 06:49:55 PM
***** Well it's been a few weeks, just about 5,500 miles now. I checked my clutch safety switch, kickstand switch, played with the clutch adjustment, adjusted idle, pulled the plugs (they look good), added some carb cleaner. condition seems to be getting progressively worse. So it looks like I'll be calling the dealer. It's got to be either a valve adjustment that I need or a re-jet.

Just wanted to Thank-you for your suggestions. I'l keep you posted (if interested)....later
Title: Re: stalling in Boston (update)
Post by: frankieG on August 18, 2007, 06:56:00 PM
if you are ever in the southern maine area i have a shop you can work on your bike inside or store it if need be.  it is very big
Title: Re: stalling in Boston (update)
Post by: bosozoku on August 18, 2007, 07:03:57 PM
Quote from: Boston500F on August 18, 2007, 06:49:55 PM
***** Well it's been a few weeks, just about 5,500 miles now. I checked my clutch safety switch, kickstand switch, played with the clutch adjustment, adjusted idle, pulled the plugs (they look good), added some carb cleaner. condition seems to be getting progressively worse. So it looks like I'll be calling the dealer. It's got to be either a valve adjustment that I need or a re-jet.

Just wanted to Thank-you for your suggestions. I'l keep you posted (if interested)....later

You sure you didn't tweak the idle knob (under the carbs) when doing something else to the bike?  (Or maybe someone else did as a prank.)

-b.