this store is going to charge me 400 bucks for my first service. is this good? my friend can replace the oil in it but i think it needs more than just that. what else do i need on my first service and how hard or easy is it to do?
Im not positive but are't they gonna just check the valve clearance and probably re-torque the head and a few other things? spose an oil change and air filter check would be in order also.... anybody else know? :dunno_white:
That sounds about right. Service + Parts.
well should i have my friend service it or have the dealership service it?
NO thats way to much I only paid $210 for my fist service. But if thats the only suzuki shop you really don't have much choice.
Here's a link to the intial service check list. You can do it yourself it just takes time.
http://www.gstwin.com/initial_service.htm
to echo Blue05Twin .... That is WAYYYY too much. I paid $90 (CAD) for my first service.
Cheers,
JG
Quote from: groff22 on July 27, 2007, 12:37:06 PM
to echo Blue05Twin .... That is WAYYYY too much. I paid $90 (CAD) for my first service.
Cheers,
JG
wtf? ok how come its so much then? is it a summer price or something? i will check other stores.
Call other suzuki dealers and also check your local mom & pop shops the usually do inital services also.
Quote from: blue05twin on July 27, 2007, 12:40:45 PM
Call other suzuki dealers and also check your local mom & pop shops the usually do inital services also.
mom & pops? like independent stores or something?
Quote from: cerius on July 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: blue05twin on July 27, 2007, 12:40:45 PM
Call other suzuki dealers and also check your local mom & pop shops the usually do inital services also.
mom & pops? like independent stores or something?
Yeah I'm old mom & pop stores or local shops or independant shops. I just checked and I mis quoted you on my first service. I paid $125 for my first service, Jon paid $240 for his. Strange thing was same bikes and same dealer.
I was just at my local Suz dealer and they were actually doing a first service on a 500..........$145
:thumb:
Shop around and find a nice little local shop to become a loyal customer of. It pays off after time :thumb:
We did the first service, and then I had a mom & pop shop do a check over and another oil change for less than $100 at around 1k miles.
yeah i think thats what i will do, do it with my friend then have the stuff we can't do have them do it, and check over our work.
THere isn't much to do. Do a search and you'll find the recommended services listed with mileage.
Keep the tank full, good rubber and brake pads, change the oil and check the valves.
It's a machine to be ridden. Don't let the dealer convince you they have special wands and magic beans that make it better.
Welcome :)
while im rebuilding my bike i dropped my engine off at the shop. He tuning the carbs doing a checking the shims and replacing the clutch and a few other things. He charging me around $200.. So i would say that yea $400 is a little much for a service that you could pretty much do yourself.
I thought that there is a issue with the first service and having to have it done by a certified Suzuki mechanic for some warranty BS, thought I remember that being discussed at one point
i got my first service for free. they "supposedly" did it when they replaced my head gasket, but who knows if they actually did anything :dunno_white:.
i will call the dealership i got it from and see how much they will charge.
some cost more because the warranty the service and are authorized dealerships. having said that if your bike is running well and you have no issues then a oil and filter should be ok. any monkey can check the bike and bolts, it all depends on your comfort level. only fools tear new bike motors, fiddle with brakes and such based on a web site or manual. also your insurance may not cover tim the toolman style home jobs
Cerius, Good luck man...
PS, what is going on with your windshield in those pics? You give it a piercing?
DAMN i got my first service for 150
Buy a repair manual, it will pay for itself many times over.
$400 is way to friggin much. :cookoo:
I think $150 is way to friggin much. :icon_rolleyes:
Shoot, you could probably but a whole bunch of valve shims and keep them at home + a repair manual (even Haynes manual) + oil filter + oil for that much. You can make a carb balancer too for a few bucks.
I owned a Rabbit years ago, I will never forget a quote in "Poor RIchard's Rabbit book for the compleat idiot", "Sixty bucks an hour?!?!? I don't make that much, you probably don't either, why would you pay that to someone else?"
Don't be afraid to try it youself. My first valve adjust for Concours took almost all day (it was winter anyway) but now I can do it in a few hours. AND I don't have to wait around at the dealer all day. I do it at MY convenience. That is priceless.
Good luck
Quote from: MikeNW on July 28, 2007, 07:16:17 AM
You can make a carb balancer too for a few bucks.
Yep -- get about 20 feet of plastic tubing that fits the carb nipples (3/8"?). Use a turkey baster to fill about a 5 foot length of the tubing with Auto Trans Fluid (ATF). Tape the tubing to a 5 foot stick in a U-shape so the tubing ends are pointing up. The ATF should be inside the U portion. Cut ends down as needed, connect to carb nipples. Remember that ATF is much lighter than mercury, so a small vacuum difference may show up as a few INCHES of difference here.
-b.
Quote from: bosozoku on July 28, 2007, 07:20:50 AM
Quote from: MikeNW on July 28, 2007, 07:16:17 AM
You can make a carb balancer too for a few bucks.
Yep -- get about 20 feet of plastic tubing that fits the carb nipples (3/8"?). Use a turkey baster to fill about a 5 foot length of the tubing with Auto Trans Fluid (ATF). Tape the tubing to a 5 foot stick in a U-shape so the tubing ends are pointing up. The ATF should be inside the U portion. Cut ends down as needed, connect to carb nipples. Remember that ATF is much lighter than mercury, so a small vacuum difference may show up as a few INCHES of difference here.
-b.
ok that didn't confuse me at all, lol.
@groff22: yes I did. I took my dremel and was bored and I did the same thing to my hoody. well I took those ones and put it on my bike. they kinda rattle a bit but other than that it doesnt go anywhere. What rattles is the headlight where I forgot to screw back in the two side screws, so it sounds like a rice burner with really bad speakers really loud from the outside and all it does it vivbrate the f%$k when you slow down with engine breaking or rev up. I need to fix that lol :icon_razz:
"Tape the tubing to a 5 foot stick in a U-shape so the tubing ends are pointing up. The ATF should be inside the U portion. Cut ends down as needed, connect to carb nipples. Remember that ATF is much lighter than mercury, so a small vacuum difference may show up as a few INCHES of difference here."
Better yet, DON'T cut the tubes, Make a long "U" and run from the end of each leg of the U to the carb nipple. This measures the difference between the 2 carbs. Excellent for the GS. A sort of pain for a 4-carb bike, but still useful. You don't need to know how many MM of mercury, you just need to know the DIFFERENCE between carbs to balance them.
Get it? Each carb is "sucking" :oops: ATF against the other, you can adjust to really small vacuum difference.
;)
Quote from: MikeNW on July 30, 2007, 09:43:20 PM
"Tape the tubing to a 5 foot stick in a U-shape so the tubing ends are pointing up. The ATF should be inside the U portion. Cut ends down as needed, connect to carb nipples. Remember that ATF is much lighter than mercury, so a small vacuum difference may show up as a few INCHES of difference here."
Better yet, DON'T cut the tubes, Make a long "U" and run from the end of each leg of the U to the carb nipple. This measures the difference between the 2 carbs. Excellent for the GS. A sort of pain for a 4-carb bike, but still useful. You don't need to know how many MM of mercury, you just need to know the DIFFERENCE between carbs to balance them.
Get it? Each carb is "sucking" :oops: ATF against the other, you can adjust to really small vacuum difference.
;)
I think I get it but that's something somebody would have to either show me or draw. I have bad luck reading something and messing up. im a visual learner.
Dang, I don't know how to post photos, I have the balancer set-up in my garage. I will keep trying.
Hey MikeNW,
U can host iimages somewhere like imageshack.us for free ... it's all here in How to post pics (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=15370.0)
Wouldn't mind seeing your setup as wouldn't others!
Cheers,
J
Then you can come to the GSTwins IRC chatroom!!! check Egaeus's sig for the link :thumb: