The current (2day) banning of WrecentRider is due to his deletion of his own posts. I am reviewing what we are going to do with him with the current site owner and other admins.
If it is deemed appropriate, he will be allowed to continue deleting his posts.
i was wondering what is up with that
So why cant someone delete his own posts? All I have to say is WOW what a load.
No offense,.. but what is wrong with someone deleting their own posts. If they want to wipe their slate clean, let them. Its not like its disturbing the rest of us. :dunno_white:
Some of this stuff is getting way out of hand. I cant say i agree with wrecentrider on some of the things hes said or done. But banning him for removing things hes said thats going a little too far.
It is an option on the posts. If he decides to use it, let him. ITs just a lot of work to go through and delete EVERYTHING... you have said over the entire time you have posted here. Myself personally,,i dont have that much time in my life to get the things i need done around my house let alone mess around with something like that..
gets peoples attention and the message is to smarten up...i agree with it
i don't know what his reasons were but why wouldn't he be able to delete his own post?
Frankie: check you pm ;)
Frankie are you kidding me :o. This just shows you how the mods are throwing around thier power. I think YOU need to smartin up and see what is going on. (lowering my head in discust)
i am just tired of abusive posts by people such as yourself
awwwww boohoo your free to log off than. if you dont wanna be abused than dont give me a reason to.
Before you all jump to conclusions, the reason for the temporary banning is because the deletion of posts really hurts the forum, in organization and back-ups; it really affects the database(s).
Mach1, you would do well to heed your own words. It's your choice.
Scratch is right and i think your missing the point alot of you. Wrecent is deleting ALL his posts - not changing his ways by deleting his abusive posts. Hes deliberately trying to ruin the forum by putting big gaps in where he has normal - helpful posts. This is not behavior which is considered good, hes just doing it to make life hard for everyone. And as Scratch also said, they are trying to preserve the good bits of this forum, they are not throwing their weight around.
I don't "live" for this board. It is a place where GS owners, or seekers, can look up information on the GS. That is the purpose of this board. If this forum were to shut down, I would move on with my life, still ride my GS; I'm not in so deep that if I were distraught about something that happens on the internet that I would resort to maliciousness.
I'm a mod and have been a mod of other boards and forums, and I say if you don't want people deleting their OWN posts, then disable it for non staff members. If someone wants a post deleted have them PM a staff member to do so.....PROBLEM SOLVED!!
DLW
Quote from: DLW on August 19, 2007, 06:34:30 AM
I'm a mod and have been a mod of other boards and forums, and I say if you don't want people deleting their OWN posts, then disable it for non staff members. If someone wants a post deleted have them PM a staff member to do so.....PROBLEM SOLVED!!
DLW
Werd^!
Or set a time limit on delete's. PHPBB3 allows you to specify an acceptable amount of time before someone is no longer allowed to delete thrie post. It can also be set to allow only deletions if someone has not posted in the thread after you have. But a ban because someone was deleting all of their posts give me a break. Sorry Scratch but that is stupid and an abuse of power.
Personally as a DBA if the MYSQL database structure and engine is so lightweight it cant handle wrecent's deletions then users should never be given the ability to delete period. Never worked with it and hope to never have to but since I am going back to school to advance my programming knowledge out of the stone age I probably will have to work with it.
I guess you didn't understand the part about it being bad for backups and the congruity of the database.
+1 BP!!
I work on databases every day....if your worried about data relationships...not to mention backups....disable the damn delete feature....I repeat....PROBLEM SOLVED!!
DLW
No I understood it just fine disable the delete feature. And your problem is solved.
Seems to me that wrecent's post would tend towards being HIS intellectual property, and thus HIS to delete.
God, people in general have completely lost their minds.
actually deletes disabled for regular users.. but what he is doing is editing his post and deleting the info in there .. aka: modify function.
And that should also be limitable to a short period of time after a post is made.
At 2 local riders forums you can not modify a post after it is 30 minutes old.
And I agree with Terry :cookoo: Now that's scary :flipoff:
You know...Wrecent has a point. There are several people that think every member that complains about this board is expendable, and that this board needs no one individual to continue to thrive.
I believe this is irresponsible and ignorant thinking to believe such a preposterous notion. What wrecent is doing, by deleting his threads, is demonstrating how big the holes can get in the information if you lose even ONE individual. For example, the mere fact that Kerry comes around and posts so much less often has had a huge impact on the board. Add to that the issue of over-zealous moderators, and you have a board that is on the fast track to intellectual death. Some say that we shouldn't complain about the mods, and if we don't like it we should leave. That's a wonderful thought until YOU are the one that needs a question asked, but there is no one left to answer it.
The moderators are acting ridiculous, especially with the blind defense of one-another, and ignorant (or kiss-ass) board members are going to support them in to oblivion.
You know, Pres. Bush sucks. He is an idiot, and his policy is ignorance. But I guess I shouldn't complain...if I don't like it I should leave huh? Imagine what the US would be without the individuals that disagree with this administration...I shudder to think.
There is one mod (who shall remain nameless) that is at the CENTER of this, and just about every other huge debate, who has never, that I've noticed, made a helpful or informative post, and who is a constant focal point for debate and controversy. When it's a board member that acts that way, they are banned. If it's a mod, they are spotless and unaccountable. :nono:
Keep it up...kill the board... :mad:
I guess what some of you don't understand is that your principles of free-speech don't apply here. Yes, we live in America, where your free-speech is protected, but not on this private forum.
Now that you know that, you may adjust your posting accordingly. You may continue to be helpful (which I appreciate, BP, your suggestions will make this a better board), you may continue the comraderie and support of riding and wrenching on the GS, which is the reason why we're all here. Can we concentrate on that? Please?
OK, ANY TIME you put your ideas down in writing, that writing becomes 'intellectual property' , your very own intellectual property. This is not a 1st amendment issue. Even if you post 'intellectual property' in a 'private' forum, it is still your intellectual property, unless the usage agreement states otherwise. The usage agreement for this forum does not describe any claim to intellectual property on the forums behalf.
Quote from: frankieG on August 18, 2007, 07:19:56 PM
i am just tired of abusive posts by people such as yourself
It is official. 99% of your posts are annoying.
Ban me if need be. I just can't take it anymore.
Hey Jake, if they ban you, don't worry we've got a new forum: http://www.freeforum101.com/gstwin/index.php?mforum=gstwin
Quote from: spcterry on August 20, 2007, 09:53:47 AM
OK, ANY TIME you put your ideas down in writing, that writing becomes 'intellectual property' , your very own intellectual property. This is not a 1st amendment issue. Even if you post 'intellectual property' in a 'private' forum, it is still your intellectual property, unless the usage agreement states otherwise. The usage agreement for this forum does not describe any claim to intellectual property on the forums behalf.
Would you allow someone to destroy your board?
In the interest of protecting their rights I would strive to find a middle ground and accomodate their choice. Something that has not been done here.
Quote from: spcterry on August 20, 2007, 10:23:01 AM
Hey Jake, if they ban you, don't worry we've got a new forum: http://www.freeforum101.com/gstwin/index.php?mforum=gstwin
Read through the board- hell, I'll even advertise it. It's a bunch of idiotic banter. A Perfect example of the kinds of stuff I say good riddance to. It still sucks that the positive contributions of those people are gone, but providing something positive does not entitle you to provide a whole bunch of negative garbage with it.
You can call me a kiss-ass or ignorant, I mean- I've already been accused of being a fake user- but I still contest that idiotic posts are fun to a point, but can become overkill. At that point, the discretion is up to the mod to stop it. And people trying to apply the rules of an entire free society to a private internet board are dumb.
I'm not going to accuse you of being a kiss-ass, ignorant, or even a fake user or 'secret' mod. I'm going to accuse you of quite possibly being one of the most hypocritical members of this board, and a complete moron.
Quote from: spcterry on August 20, 2007, 12:02:32 PM
I'm not going to accuse you of being a kiss-ass, ignorant, or even a fake user or 'secret' mod. I'm going to accuse you of quite possibly being one of the most hypocritical members of this board, and a complete moron.
Care to illustrate and back it up? I have 100% admitted that I have been a jackass on this board and disciplined for it. What I didn't do was whine on and on about how unfairly I was treated. For complete moron definition, please see the "newer-better" board:
http://www.freeforum101.com/gstwin/index.php?mforum=gstwin
Quote from: spcterry on August 20, 2007, 11:00:39 AM
In the interest of protecting their rights I would strive to find a middle ground and accomodate their choice. Something that has not been done here.
You assume they/we have rights on this board.
A man without a gun, is a subject. I, myself, may get banned at any moment, I do not fear it, fight against it, fret it, or worry about it.
Wrecent's ban has expired, he will be allowed to continue to delete (or, edit out) his posts.
You tell me what Mod will ban another mod. Bullshit you guys do what ever and say whatever you want and nothing gets done, But when a handfull of members say the same thing we get banned. Sorry scratch but from what I read, your saying do it my way or F^%$ off. This board is going down cuz of the nazi mods, talk crap about the other board I have been on it for two days and see nothing wrong, IMHO its getting their It only has about 15 members and some used to contribute alot to this board and now are over at the other and will be happy to answer noob questions over their. you got what you deserved when wresent updated his posts and should continue. So (http://www.freeforum101.com/gstwin/images/smiles/finger.gif) sit on it.
Wow you're an angry young man, I'm guessing that you'll have an ulcer before you're 30. :laugh:
No I usually let things out and thats it. until other crap comes up.
Quote from: scratch on August 20, 2007, 10:28:59 AM
Quote from: spcterry on August 20, 2007, 09:53:47 AM
OK, ANY TIME you put your ideas down in writing, that writing becomes 'intellectual property' , your very own intellectual property. This is not a 1st amendment issue. Even if you post 'intellectual property' in a 'private' forum, it is still your intellectual property, unless the usage agreement states otherwise. The usage agreement for this forum does not describe any claim to intellectual property on the forums behalf.
Would you allow someone to destroy your board?
Would you allow moderators to destroy your board?
We dont have to let them they already are.
Quote from: CasiUSA on August 20, 2007, 11:36:39 AM
Read through the board- hell, I'll even advertise it. It's a bunch of idiotic banter. A Perfect example of the kinds of stuff I say good riddance to.
What's funny to me about that comment, is that I went back to read through a certain mods posts, I went through 15 pages (out of 373 total pages) and
300 posts and found only 2 that were helpful, gs-related posts. Keep defending our leaders, it makes you look smart. :cookoo: btw, that amounts to .67% of that mods posts as being helpful...pretty bad for someone 'running the board'. Nearly ALL of the other posts were quips and smilies. Talk about idiotic banter... :icon_rolleyes:
Quote from: oramac on August 20, 2007, 05:14:04 PM
What's funny to me about that comment, is that I went back to read through a certain mods posts, I went through 15 pages (out of 373 total pages) and 300 posts and found only 2 that were helpful, gs-related posts. Keep defending our leaders, it makes you look smart. :cookoo: btw, that amounts to .67% of that mods posts as being helpful...pretty bad for someone 'running the board'. Nearly ALL of the other posts were quips and smilies. Talk about idiotic banter... :icon_rolleyes:
OK- Non-helpful and offensive posts are two different things. Secondly, that is one person on this board that
you find non-helpful, as opposed to the 90% of idiotic posts ranging from "Ball-Hair" to Wilson Rants.
Pandy has made much great contribution to this board, and I have never seen her say anything abbraisive or malicious.
It's really pathetic how much you people are letting your opinion of one person make you leave this whole board and waste so much time starting your own forum so that you can sanction calling each other genital names.
Oops sorry, I should edit that with "Air Quotes" so I can "Imply" who it is in a "transparent" attempt to sound like I'm being "mature" and not "pointing" fingers.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :2guns: :2guns: :2guns: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :2guns: :2guns: :2guns:
Nobody on the other forum is calling anyone 'genital names', we're having a lively if pointless discussion about pubic hair. But, now by popular demand, I must say 'you ma'am are a duck and a kitty cat all at once'
Quote from: mach1 on August 20, 2007, 04:26:55 PM
You tell me what Mod will ban another mod. Bullshit you guys do what ever and say whatever you want and nothing gets done, But when a handfull of members say the same thing we get banned.
This I do not debate. Until we get our act together, you have no reason to beleive or trust us.
Quote from: mach1 on August 20, 2007, 04:26:55 PM
Sorry scratch but from what I read, your saying do it my way or F^%$ off.
Is that the way you are interpreting it? I am literal, so please be specific. Quote me and explain. I'm listening.
personally i don't have a problem with the mods, if i get banned i am sure i deserve it
I have nothing in perticular but its what i get from a few of the mods and the past weeks including you. I have no issue with you but I think we on the other side of the fence are getting treated like sh!t by the mods and the monkey's that follow, We try to make a good point or defend ourselves and get banned. who has the autho to ban a mod beside the admin? hey frankie shut up, after watching your video I think you have some issue with slowness oh yeah and get a life. :2guns:
I dont think you have to worry about getting banned as long as you keep using those knee pads :thumb:
of course i do, i am in the middle of chemo
X
terry for 22 you have been everywhere and done everything. i was just explaining why linear thought and speech is not what it used to be for me
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Weird, I really don't care to discuss this. Good Luck with chemo.
Neither is making good points. try dealing with being diabetic, having a weak heart and hacking up blood every once in ahwile(ex smoker). so like terry said deal with it. your still a dumbass.
get a room u two...and you can both hug kiss and tell each other your little fairy tails :kiss3: :kiss3: :kiss3: :kiss3: :bs: :nono:
Yeah, real mature response. Like I said, not a subject I care to discuss. Good Luck.
great comeback frankie. :thumb:
Quote from: CasiUSA on August 20, 2007, 05:31:53 PM
OK- Non-helpful and offensive posts are two different things. Secondly, that is one person on this board that you find non-helpful, as opposed to the 90% of idiotic posts ranging from "Ball-Hair" to Wilson Rants.
Pandy has made much great contribution to this board, and I have never seen her say anything abbraisive or malicious.
It's really pathetic how much you people are letting your opinion of one person make you leave this whole board and waste so much time starting your own forum so that you can sanction calling each other genital names.
I like how you deleted your part of the quote that addressed, specifically, "idiotic banter."
Quote from: CasiUSA on Today at 02:36:39 PM
Read through the board- hell, I'll even advertise it. It's a bunch of
idiotic banter. A Perfect example of the kinds of stuff I say good riddance to.
I don't disagree that some members are out of hand, but we can't ALL be wrong. And, for the record, I haven't been disciplined, repremanded, warned, banned, or flamed by the moderators, yet I disagree with some of their actions. That's it. All I'm trying to point out is that some moderators (which they are all taking the blame for the actions of a very few), acted inappropriately as well, and should be held to the same standards as the board members. That is all.
Another entertaining notion in your above reply is that you named Pandy. I haven't spoken any moderators' names, and I won't. But when I mention useless posts, why was Pandy the individual that popped in YOUR head first for your gallant defense? Obviously, you must think associate her with "idiotic banter" over all other moderators, because we have several, and she was your first choice. I suppose you could have gone into all the mods' profiles to check their post-counts, and you could have read the last 300 of each of their posts, but for some reason I doubt that. Hmm.
Pointless is pointless, postwhoring is postwhoring, and useless is useless. It applies to everyone. If I really wanted to illustrate my point, I could pull 298 useless posts into this thread as exhibit a...but that would be petty.
There is fault on BOTH sides. Any argument to the contrary is, in my opinion, sheer ignorance and/or blind denial.
Oh, by the way, I don't maintain a negative opinion of any one mod, I'm just stating factual information as concrete evidence for debate. I will not, nor have I thrown out any unsubtantiable claims. Don't mix my posts and replies in with the random flamers...I'm trying to outline legitimate grievances. (None of which have involved 'free speach' as some people keep throwing out)
Here's to hoping this situation is resolved before any permanent damage is done. :cheers:
damn ppl wtf can we get along, some ran off, which is why i set teh new forum up, some of them have some helpful info for other riders out there. i do not want that info lost. many of us are opinionated, some, very much so :icon_confused: but whatever teh mods/admins did, tis done already so lets move fwd . shall we? :dunno_white:
Quote from: oramac on August 20, 2007, 08:52:34 PM
I like how you deleted your part of the quote that addressed, specifically, "idiotic banter."
Quote from: CasiUSA on Today at 02:36:39 PM
Read through the board- hell, I'll even advertise it. It's a bunch of idiotic banter. A Perfect example of the kinds of stuff I say good riddance to.
I don't disagree that some members are out of hand, but we can't ALL be wrong. And, for the record, I haven't been disciplined, repremanded, warned, banned, or flamed by the moderators, yet I disagree with some of their actions. That's it. All I'm trying to point out is that some moderators (which they are all taking the blame for the actions of a very few), acted inappropriately as well, and should be held to the same standards as the board members. That is all.
I did not delete any part of my quote- I believe you should read back and you are quoting the wrong post. I stand by the statement that the other place is nothing but idiotic banter.
Disagreeing with the mods is fine, take it up with them on PM. Publicly calling "a certain mod" a nazi and trying to stage a coup and starting a giant Tard Farm Forum to compete with GSTwin is not making anyone look good.
Quote from: oramac on August 20, 2007, 08:52:34 PM
Another entertaining notion in your above reply is that you named Pandy. I haven't spoken any moderators' names, and I won't. But when I mention useless posts, why was Pandy the individual that popped in YOUR head first for your gallant defense? Obviously, you must think associate her with "idiotic banter" over all other moderators, because we have several, and she was your first choice. I suppose you could have gone into all the mods' profiles to check their post-counts, and you could have read the last 300 of each of their posts, but for some reason I doubt that. Hmm.
If you read the following post- which *sigh* I have to spell out: "Making air quotes and writing things in purple and referring to specifically to pandy as 'a certain mod' does not make you mature by not naming names- it's very transparent and childish":
Quote from: CasiUSA on August 20, 2007, 05:35:15 PM
Oops sorry, I should edit that with "Air Quotes" so I can "Imply" who it is in a "transparent" attempt to sound like I'm being "mature" and not "pointing" fingers.
Quote from: oramac on August 20, 2007, 08:52:34 PM
Oh, by the way, I don't maintain a negative opinion of any one mod, I'm just stating factual information as concrete evidence for debate. I will not, nor have I thrown out any unsubtantiable claims. Don't mix my posts and replies in with the random flamers...I'm trying to outline legitimate grievances. (None of which have involved 'free speach' as some people keep throwing out)
Here's to hoping this situation is resolved before any permanent damage is done. :cheers:
Not to mix your posts, but I can't help but notice your bias seems to be in favor of the group starting their own forum. I have a bias towards the other side, which I can fairly admit.
And I will certainly cheers to hoping this gets resolved. :cheers:
Quote from: mach1 on August 20, 2007, 05:58:26 PM
I have nothing in perticular but its what i get from a few of the mods and the past weeks including you. I have no issue with you but I think we on the other side of the fence are getting treated like sh!t by the mods and the monkey's that follow, We try to make a good point or defend ourselves and get banned. who has the autho to ban a mod beside the admin?
Well, I aplogize about how you feel you're being treated (have you been banned or reprimanded?).
And, I guess what I'm trying to say is that no matter how bad it gets, I still beleive in this board, and am willing to look past the political hang-ups to continue being helpful, even if I am no longer a mod.
now casi no need to be hateful toward teh new forum. i am involved with both of them, i love this place, but i got that one going ( as i said in another thread) for teh expats from here, or elsewhere to come and talk. i havend actively tried to hijack any of teh membership here ( AT ALL) i feel as though i belong here ive been here about as long as you have casi, so i know, you know what im talking about. no it isnt level yet, really no rules in place YET, but that is being worked on. i do NOT want it to end up liek a gigantic cluster f[ self-edit}k ;)
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on August 23, 2007, 12:47:23 AM
now casi no need to be hateful toward teh new forum. i am involved with both of them, i love this place, but i got that one going ( as i said in another thread) for teh expats from here, or elsewhere to come and talk. i havend actively tried to hijack any of teh membership here ( AT ALL) i feel as though i belong here ive been here about as long as you have casi, so i know, you know what im talking about. no it isnt level yet, really no rules in place YET, but that is being worked on. i do NOT want it to end up liek a gigantic cluster f[ self-edit}k ;)
Dude, I value your presence here as I'm sure a lot of people on GSTwin do. You have made boatloads of great contibution on both the technical and social side.
But let's be honest: That new forum is founded as a place for it's members to have free-reign to act like morons. I actually went around to look, and if it genuinely existed to be healthy competition (i.e. provide more help and insight to GS-related problems) that would be one thing- I would be glad to recognize it as a resource if that is what it was for.
The reason it cropped up in the first place is because people needed somewhere to go where they could act like jackasses and not get punished for it.
I mean, just to cite a few things about the other forum:
- Multiple threads that exist with the sole purpose of calling "a certain mod" a dirty whore
- "Certain Mods" on the new forum with signatures including something along the lines of "nya nyah, I have admin power now, suck my genitalia Pandy" (what a bunch of immature petty LOSERS)
- Threads about "Ball-hair"
- Petty threads attacking Me
I mean, the list goes on, and it's pretty pathetic...
A little humility goes a long way
We really don't need to hear about all of this.
The drama, oh the drama.
-Anti 8)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Is the war over now? :dunno_white: Can i take off my helmet and body armour and come out of the shlenter :laugh:
how did this thread get brought back from the dead????
Quote from: Kasumi on January 09, 2008, 05:30:14 AM
Is the war over now? :dunno_white: Can i take off my helmet and body armour and come out of the shlenter :laugh:
ehh perhaps theres some un-exploded munitions. might wanna be careful :laugh:
Il tread carefully and probe the ground ahead first with my trusty combat knife lol