At least that's what this dealer/ebay seller says...CLICK HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330158233429&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=014)
QuoteThis is the last year for this bike so get it while you can. We only have a few left. The replacement for this bike will be a Fuel injected 650 that will be alot more money.
Scare tactics or inside information?
Let the comments begin!
Thats what I heard, if you look at suzuki's website they don't have the '08 model listed.
not suprising really, the us market has all but turned their backs on small displacemtn bikes, even the 250 ninja is so retro that most new buyers won't even consider one of them either
I thought about that ,Suzook came out with stellar SV650 ,Kwaka came with ER6/ninja650R , both much modern twins that comply with ever stringent
emission standards (both now have EFI) and they're both noob friendly and seem as good replacements of GS500 and EX500 ,so why would they
bother with them? If sales come down surely they'll scrap these models ,but I think GS500F is a strong seller still :dunno_white:
P.S.
the Ebay seller is talking :bs: he wants to sell the bikes , and fuel injected replacement already exists , the SV650
a 650 sv exists, just not fully faired, thats the target audience they are aiming at, BLING BLING bikes
I think he's talking about the gsx650f..
Yep,
I work at a Suzuki Dealer and so far what I am told is there will be no 08 GS500 :mad:
ditto at my dealership in maine
Question is ,is it gone for the US market or globally as well ...
Not sure , I think GB have versions that the us market doesnt , i mean we do get the 07 Naked :P
and 9000 pounds for a Bking!!
http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bikes/onroad/
Suzuki started offering a sully faired SV in europe.
i bet they'll do the same here considering how popular fairings are.
Yeah its dying for sure. It was dropped from the UK and most of the European line-up last year, all thats left in the dealers here is old stock. There has been a yellow one in my local dealers showroom for over a year now! It didnt even make the top 50 list of best sellers here last year. The design is almost 20yrs old (the engine goes back even further) and it has been left way behind by the competition.
The main issue is that the engine does not meet with current and projected emission regulations. The only way volume manufacturers can meet with these regulations is by starting with a new design using sophisticated engine management systems employing fuel injection in the same way car manufacturers do. Carbs` are fast becoming a thing of the past and pretty soon no mass produced bike will be using them.
Does it really matter ?
That new bike JUST MIGHT ROCK!
I'm welcoming the new model. Fuel injection, updated suspension, tires will likely be wider, water cooled, etc
These are all things people would LIKE to do to their GS right now. Suzuki paid attention, and hopes to reap the benefits of doing so.
Give them props for NOT making it a chromed out cruiser.
I give suzuki a big :thumb: for doing something that may turn out to be cool.
It's not like it devalues your great GS in any way.
It actually adds some O0 ness in my opinion.
I too could see this day coming as emission laws start getting tighter and tighter.
Carby's just don't cut it. Which is a shame. They are so much easier to work on.
Long live the GS500!
i will be selling mine next spring
Quote from: galahs on August 26, 2007, 04:36:05 AM
I too could see this day coming as emission laws start getting tighter and tighter.
Carby's just don't cut it. Which is a shame. They are so much easier to work on.
Long live the GS500!
I see a market for FI upgrade kits for the GS. Suz almost made the move with the last revision, but the future is control technology. Yes, carbs are easier - to a point. But you can't control on the fly, monitor and adjust, etc. like you can with programable ECU hardware. Of course, not everyone wants that kind of "control freak" experience.
We've discussed Megasquirt, and other open source FI systems, but they are for the hard core mod monkey. A complete plug&play FI kit is the way to go.
Maybe the Euro/Oz crew can make a few coins with importing GS's from other markets???
well yeah no more faired GS.. Guess in June my choice will have to be the Yamaha YZF600R.
I dont like the gixxer... just to name one reason (reputation of the riders).
oh well...
pbureau69 said:
well yeah no more faired GS.. Guess in June my choice will have to be the Yamaha YZF600R.
I dont like the gixxer... just to name one reason (reputation of the riders).
oh well...
hey man, I've commuted with some really nice riders on gixxer 6,750, and liters ! From what I've seen they're very agile at slow speeds in traffic, have a decent gear range for stop/go stuff, and i don't need to mention the acceleration.
don't cross off the gsx-r's just because of some squidly idiots. those are FINE machines, they're tuned to be the best they possibly can. the styling is awesome, the exhaust notes sweet, and parts are plentiful. if you have the means and will, go on and enjoy one !
Quote from: pbureau69 on August 26, 2007, 01:39:17 PM
well yeah no more faired GS.. Guess in June my choice will have to be the Yamaha YZF600R.
I dont like the gixxer... just to name one reason (reputation of the riders).
oh well...
Don't be so sure that the YZF600R has much of a life left either. It was dropped three years back from the Yamaha's European lineup, and apart from paint that bike hasn't had any changes. To my knowledge, North America is the only market that its still sold in.
The time has probably come to say good night to carbureted motorcycle motors. Heck, even The Motor Company (http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/Motorcycles/motorcycles.jsp?locale=en_US) is going to throttle bodies.
i guess we can also say goodbye to lower insurance rates as well. i know with my insurance company they go by cc's for rates
Quote from: jordanearl on August 26, 2007, 04:58:44 PM
i guess we can also say goodbye to lower insurance rates as well. i know with my insurance company they go by cc's for rates
They actually go by both CC size and class. A Supersport 600 such as a YZF-R6 has a higher insurance rate than the FZ6 because the FZ6 isn't supersport. And my Yam Reps havn't said anything about the 600R going anywhere, although an R6S would be an easier step up than dealing with the weight of a 600R IMO.
On the one hand it makes me a bit sad that the GS may go the way of the dinosaur, but on the other hand it'll be nice to have more options when I DO get a bike in the spring. If nothing else, getting a GS will be a lot more affordable once the new model comes out, which is good for me. It's a win-win situation, really.
Quote from: RedShift on August 26, 2007, 04:03:45 PM
Quote from: pbureau69 on August 26, 2007, 01:39:17 PM
well yeah no more faired GS.. Guess in June my choice will have to be the Yamaha YZF600R.
I dont like the gixxer... just to name one reason (reputation of the riders).
oh well...
Don't be so sure that the YZF600R has much of a life left either. It was dropped three years back from the Yamaha's European lineup, and apart from paint that bike hasn't had any changes. To my knowledge, North America is the only market that its still sold in.
The time has probably come to say good night to carbureted motorcycle motors. Heck, even The Motor Company (http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/Motorcycles/motorcycles.jsp?locale=en_US) is going to throttle bodies.
yes they need to simply upgrade (options) for it to be FI like FZ6.... I may take a an FZ6 but I really enjoy my fairings in the winter time...
we see, I have until June 08 to make my mind up.... maybe go test drive a Monster 600 from duc.
My brother took his little half faring off and went fighter with his FZ... crazy wheelie machine! A bike that I would like to see would have that 80horse twin yamaha has in the Phazer sleds. As light as that motor is... that motorcycle would be one snappy, fun ride!
It's gonna suck seeing them go but lets face it... the GS is old tech. Partially the reason we love thm is because they're dirt simple but it's not exactly the quickest thing on two wheels, although it's as nimble it'll never be a 1/4 mile bike. The most we can do is tip our hats, I guess and bid farewell to the idea of a new one.
I'm going to keep riding my GS and enjoy it. This news doesn't affect me in the least, since parts will still be plentiful for years and years to come. The FZR I'm riding has been discontinued for eight years, and that hasn't been an issue.
I mean, the GS *is* outdated. Suzuki has no responsibility to keep making it.
The CB400/500/550/750/etc was a great machine for it's day, and they stopped making that.
I don't think anybody that starts on an SV650 is going to behind the curve of somebody learning on a GS, so why not make the SV the new GS? Maybe make an SV "Dark" with a single rotor and cheaper suspension/paint, and then an upgraded version with good brakes, a more robust front-end, and a real shock.
Sort of like Ducati's old 900 SS model. They had the 900SS/CR which had the half fairing, non-adjustable suspension, and regular fiberglass fenders. The 900SS/SP had carbon fibre fenders, wider rear wheel, fully adjustable suspension, and a little badge on the triple clamp.
Quote from: RobTheTyrant on August 27, 2007, 07:11:25 AM
Quote from: jordanearl on August 26, 2007, 04:58:44 PM
i guess we can also say goodbye to lower insurance rates as well. i know with my insurance company they go by cc's for rates
They actually go by both CC size and class. A Supersport 600 such as a YZF-R6 has a higher insurance rate than the FZ6 because the FZ6 isn't supersport. And my Yam Reps havn't said anything about the 600R going anywhere, although an R6S would be an easier step up than dealing with the weight of a 600R IMO.
i never said anything about jumping classes, but if they replace the 500 with a 650, the insurance is gonna be higher. just like the sv, its considerably higher an still isn't a supersport, so id assume the 650 replacement will be right along the lines of the sv
i'd prefer a liquid cooled FI GS over that obese faired Bandit 650 they're touting as a "new" model.
well technically i guess the 04 and up gs with the oil cooler is "liquid" cooled. but i am looking forward to getting a bike with a lower op temperature, radiator and FI. i was going to get a sv1000 since i used to run the TLR1000 and they are similar. but they trow too much heat so i am looking at a 600-750 sport bike a gsxr, triumph or something like that.
Thats real bad , i love the gs , Englands insurance rates and price of petrol put me off the bigger bikes , il wait and maybe get the New Shape gs , and put sum GSxr USD forks on it or sum it :P
The GS will never end....it will just take on a new look with each owner as it is modified to continue to exist.
Quote from: dgyver on August 27, 2007, 04:45:13 PM
The GS will never end....it will just take on a new look with each owner as it is modified to continue to exist.
The man is trully a philosopher mechanic. :cheers:
He will be at the Haywood Mall in Greenville, SC for a book signing of his debut title "Zen, the GS, and the tau of Dgyver"
If you buy it through GSTWin, a portion of the proceeds will go to his wine collection. :laugh: (or is that consumption??)
Yep, she's old tech, but I love her too. At least I won't have to worry about keeping up with new VINs for years to come. (That project is just about to wear me out. ) There ought to be some super deals on 07 models coming up. Ebay sales of the 2004, 05, and 06 are a huge percentage of my data collection.
It's funny
the things I love about the GS are the things that will be its down fall.
Air cooled (no worries about leaking, overheating radiators, replacing radiator fluid, water pumps, thermostats, corrosion)
Gravity Fed Fuel System - No worries about fuel pumps
Carbs - Simple to fix, upgrade, clean and repair. No electronics and computers to muck around with.
Simple suspension - Easy to upgrade
Straight through exhausts - No catalytic converters to worry about fouling or burning
Skinny Tyres = Cheap Rubber to replace
I LOVE THE GS!!!!
^^^^^^^
+1000
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Man, do I like my GS!!!!! :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
Oh, and may I add the fact that I don't need to worry about thievin' b@$t@rd$? :laugh:
Suzuki can force feed the masses whatever they want. I like my GS. It's good for what it is. I'm gonna hold onto mine until the bitter end.
I talked to my dealer in town yesterday. Yes, the Gs500f have been discontinued. The paper work he let me read from Suzuki said "the gs650F was the replacement for the 600 Katana, not the 500e or f."
I myself will keep riding mine until I cannot get parts for it any more.
When I can't get parts any more I'll make them.
Quote from: sledge on August 26, 2007, 02:14:16 AM
Yeah its dying for sure. It was dropped from the UK and most of the European line-up last year, all thats left in the dealers here is old stock.
You can still find them new in the UK, but you'll need to phone around. I think you'll be hard pressed to find a naked one now - most remaining stock seems to be the 'F' now. On the plus side, you can drive a hard deal and get yourself a real bargain. I did, and it was even eligible for the 0% finance that Suzuki were offering on new bikes registered before 1st Sept. I've had my 2007 GS500 for nearly two months now, and 450 miles later I'm loving it (especially now I've found the extension bar in the toolkit that let me pump up the preload... :icon_razz: )
Phew! My first post...it's quite nerve-wracking isn't it? :laugh:
Quote from: desilva on September 04, 2007, 05:29:45 AMPhew! My first post...it's quite nerve-wracking isn't it? :laugh:
I think you did quite well! :cheers:
Quote from: RobTheTyrant on August 27, 2007, 07:11:25 AM
They actually go by both CC size and class. A Supersport 600 such as a YZF-R6 has a higher insurance rate than the FZ6 because the FZ6 isn't supersport. And my Yam Reps havn't said anything about the 600R going anywhere, although an R6S would be an easier step up than dealing with the weight of a 600R IMO.
Nah, thats wrong. An R6s is just a second-generation (2003-2005) R6. The 600R Thundercat has a more comfortable seating position, slightly less powerful engine... and probably a few other more tour-friendly differences.
with lifan and hyosung knockin on the door of the big boys throwing dot legal beginner bikes that cost 30-50% as much as current beginner bikes with more advanced supspensions, brakes, and weighing less, the big boys are adjusting accordingly. kawasaki is brewing up a new 250 by all accounts, honda is even testing the waters in canadia with its cbr125, i would bet suzuki is going to update the gs. or offer something different that takes its place thats more modern. either way, the gs had a killer run, and they will always be able to be had.
There is no updating GS ,why should there be? In the US you choose the bike to begin with , you could begin on a busa if you wanted to ,and Suzuki
has an "updated GS" for US market already ,the SV650 .
In EU you have categories 125cc up to 14bhp then bikes up to 33bhp and the last unlimited ,so GS falls in between ,it's more than 33bhp so needs restriction ,
those with unlimited license won't ride GS .
I see more sense for the big four to cater to these above mentioned categories in EU and abandon GS in US , than updating a bike that nowadays has no niche
If Suzuki comes up with new updated,fuel injected, liquid cooled 500cc twin , I'll eat this thread without salt ,OK ? :laugh:
^^^^^
...hey!!!!
I'm unrestricted but I ride a GS :laugh:
(and I'm satisfied with it :thumb:)
Kidding apart,
I agree with Suzuki not updating the GS line, after all the 500 cc class market is getting smaller and smaller, and this bike is appreciated for what it is, a solid vehicle, cheap to buy, maintain and insure, perfect for n00bs (:icon_mrgreen:) but also suitable for older/more advanced/returning riders, structurally simple, old-fashioned and so on. I can see little or no sense in making major updates to the GS 500. :dunno_white:
What is sure, is that if Suzuki will see no profitability in making/selling this model, due to emission regulations, market demand or anything else, it will be discontinued, plain and simple. According to different taste and market demand, one of the two versions have been discontinued in several markets (US doesn't get the naked anymore, we don't get the faired one from this year, and so on).
IMO, none of the current Suzuki models can be seen as the *real* GS successor, maybe the next best thing is the SV 650 (that I'd LOVE to test ride :icon_mrgreen:), but apart from the number of cylinders, I cannot see much in common.
Just my 0.02 €. :cheers: :cheers: