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Title: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: joshhartj on August 31, 2007, 12:50:11 AM
Just put some Vortex Clip-ons on my bike, took about 4 hours haha, cause I had no idea what I was doing.  Don't have an owners manual and never worked on a bike before.  Safe, I know  :icon_rolleyes:.  But they appear to work great, gotta get used to the new riding position but I like it a lot so far.  I'll post up a walk through of what I did and pictures and stuff when I have more energy.  I put them above the top triple, but I'm gonna get a piece of aluminum ASAP to take off the top triple part, my bike has some mad forward lean right now, plenty of clearance still, just a little too aggressive for my back. :laugh:
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: frankieG on August 31, 2007, 08:53:38 AM
your back will get used to it
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: jrsgs5f on August 31, 2007, 03:41:53 PM
did you have any clearance issues.  I was thinking of getting those clip ons also, but i envisioned them coming very close to hitting the gas tank ... let me know.
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: frankieG on August 31, 2007, 04:47:05 PM
your hands will keep it from hitting the tank
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: speeddemon190 on August 31, 2007, 08:48:18 PM
yeah just adjust the clip-ons when you put them on i just measured mine with everything on them, and made sure there was a small fraction of space between the tank and the bars if they are turned all the way. The only one you really need to worry about is the left bar becuase of the distance it has to travel in order for you to lock the bars. but your hands will get in the way first anyways just like stated above.
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: 510 on September 10, 2007, 05:05:59 PM
After taking off the top plate, was there enough room to put the clip-ons without having to lower the forks?

I'm thinking about doing this, but I'm too lazy to adjust the forks and stuff.
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: frankieG on September 10, 2007, 05:12:32 PM
the best idea, in my opinion, is to find a 89 set up.  that is what i have and i love it....but my back does not
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: Jay_wolf on September 10, 2007, 05:54:05 PM
I have the Kat front end , and i have my clip ones Mounted above the triple ,. and its a damn comfy riding Position ,  not to aggressive , but not like MX bars , just perfect , i think that was very lucky tho :thumb:
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: ClintP on September 10, 2007, 06:25:51 PM
Clip ons or drag bar........................i can't decide  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: Mk1inCali on September 10, 2007, 08:01:18 PM
Drag bars are straighter, clip-ons feel more solidly connected (whether or not that's a good thing is dependant upon your intended use and how long your rides will be).  I like clip-ons better, but MX bars the best because I can drop the bike or lend it to people that will drop the bike and not worry about anything aside from levers being bent.
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: 510 on September 10, 2007, 08:53:24 PM
It looks like the gauges are attached to the top plate. After removing the top plate, is there anywhere else that they can be attached to?

Or am I just dead wrong about everything I just said?

thanks!
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: speeddemon190 on September 11, 2007, 02:11:37 AM
no your right, what im goign to do, is take the mounts off of the top plate, and weld them to the actual triple tree clamp underneath it. and if you ended up raising your forks to get the bars on and you hit a bump do you get any where sounds,   when i hit a bump i get a hard knock almost like my forks have compressed as far as they can go and hit. but im only 110 lbs so i dont think they should ge compressed that much with the added wieght from lowering the front end.  i know when i raised the forks it made the angle different on the forks and shifted more of the wieght of the engine foward thus compressing the forks more, but i figured i would have enough that they wouldnt fully compress or am i wrong????? anyone have any other ideas maybe just the fender hitting? but if it did that would it just crack or break, i would at least see some paint marks but i dont see anything
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: 510 on September 11, 2007, 08:35:21 AM
I haven't done any mods yet, and my front forks bottom out when I hit bumps too.

From what I measured, the forks need to be dropped a bit less than half a cm. Although you're right in that it changes the bike's geometry by a bit, I don't think that the adjustment would give the fender enough room to hit anything else. I guess that this would be a good opportunity to get progressive springs, or better yet, swap out the front forks; maybe the new ones already come with clip on handlebars.

Or, if you can stand it being kinda ugly, the clip-ons don't have to be flush with the fork tops... just saying
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: Mk1inCali on September 11, 2007, 10:47:41 AM
Quote from: 510 on September 10, 2007, 08:53:24 PM
It looks like the gauges are attached to the top plate. After removing the top plate, is there anywhere else that they can be attached to?

Or am I just dead wrong about everything I just said?

thanks!

You'd have to fab up some sort of mounting bracketry for the gauges and the headlight, which would be a royal PITA unless you're experienced with that sort of thing and then you probably wouldn't be asking about it, you'd just do it.
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: Mk1inCali on September 11, 2007, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: speeddemon190 on September 11, 2007, 02:11:37 AM
no your right, what im goign to do, is take the mounts off of the top plate, and weld them to the actual triple tree clamp underneath it. and if you ended up raising your forks to get the bars on and you hit a bump do you get any where sounds,   when i hit a bump i get a hard knock almost like my forks have compressed as far as they can go and hit. but im only 110 lbs so i dont think they should ge compressed that much with the added wieght from lowering the front end.  i know when i raised the forks it made the angle different on the forks and shifted more of the wieght of the engine foward thus compressing the forks more, but i figured i would have enough that they wouldnt fully compress or am i wrong????? anyone have any other ideas maybe just the fender hitting? but if it did that would it just crack or break, i would at least see some paint marks but i dont see anything

Stock fork springs are very, very soft.  The forks bottom themselves out (run out of travel) well before the fender would ever hit.
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: mo07gs on September 12, 2007, 10:52:50 AM
will these vortex clip ons fit my 07 gs500f  with out crazy fab. work? will these hit the tank when the steering lock is engaged?
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: 510 on September 12, 2007, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: mo07gs on September 12, 2007, 10:52:50 AM
will these vortex clip ons fit my 07 gs500f  with out crazy fab. work? will these hit the tank when the steering lock is engaged?

Three ways that I know people have used are:
1. Remove the handlebar, but leave the top plate as is. Drop the forks a bit more than an inch to make room for the clip-ons
2. Put the clip-ons below the top triple
3. Remove the top plate to make room, drop the forks a few fractions of an inch, and either mount the gauges to the fairing or make a new (thinner) top plate.

Options 1 and 3, from what I hear, should give the clip-ons enough room to not hit the tank or the fairing. 3 probably also modifies the bike's geometry a lot less.
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: mach1 on September 12, 2007, 05:19:24 PM
I mounted my clip-ons below the top triple. as far as the gauges go just fab a new top plate made of 3/16 or a little thicker alluminum and just use a 38mm circular saw to make the holes and use a band saw/jigsaw or plasma to cut the shape. If my camera worked I would post some picutes but It got wet when I went to the lake.
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: mo07gs on September 14, 2007, 11:22:09 AM
Quote from: mach1 on September 12, 2007, 05:19:24 PM
I mounted my clip-ons below the top triple. as far as the gauges go just fab a new top plate made of 3/16 or a little thicker alluminum and just use a 38mm circular saw to make the holes and use a band saw/jigsaw or plasma to cut the shape. If my camera worked I would post some picutes but It got wet when I went to the lake.
by mounting the cllip ons below the top triple will that create a fairing or tank issue?  Also take in to consideration im a 180lbs dont want to trash my springs yet.
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: mach1 on September 14, 2007, 09:36:15 PM
Oh sorry I removed my fairings. YOu could just remove your top triple plate and like I said make a new top plate and mount the clip-ons about the triple. Mounting them under or over the triple wont mess up your front suspention.
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: mo07gs on September 19, 2007, 10:46:47 AM
do's any one know what the o.d. of the stock 89 clip on set is ? im looking too get a brand new 89 top clamp from my dealer and need to know if a set of replacment vortex or woodcraft bars will fit a stock set up.
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: DLW on September 19, 2007, 11:15:42 AM
Quote from: mo07gs on September 19, 2007, 10:46:47 AM
do's any one know what the o.d. of the stock 89 clip on set is ? im looking too get a brand new 89 top clamp from my dealer and need to know if a set of replacment vortex or woodcraft bars will fit a stock set up.


Interesting thought.  I have '89s on my '92 but never thought to check the o.d.  I just figured they were all the same.  I need to replace my bars as the PO dropped it "or something" as my right bar is bent.  Thought about putting Vortex or Woodcraft bars on instead.  Guess I could check when I get home.

DLW
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on September 19, 2007, 03:59:37 PM
They're 7/8"
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: 510 on September 30, 2007, 12:54:41 AM
Finally got the cilp-ons installed! I removed the top plate and put the clip-ons on the forks without having to lower the forks any.

The hardest part of the whole thing was removing the top plate. Those bolts attaching it to the top triple were TIGHT. I had to put an allen bit on a 24 inch breaker bar to get enough leverage to even turn the bolt. The whole time I was worried that it might strip too much and I'd have to drill it out or something. The only time I can think of where a bolt this small was this tight was in the fuel filter for a car.

I still gotta fab up a steel/aluminum plate to bolt the gauges on to. Right now, I'm just using some zip-ties to hold them onto the top triple. Super ghetto, I know...

Other than that, it's freakin awesome. Got insane forward lean now. Just gotta get my back used to it, cuz it's hurtin real bad after only 30 minutes of riding.
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: vorBH on December 30, 2008, 06:06:59 PM
Quote from: 510 on September 30, 2007, 12:54:41 AM
Finally got the cilp-ons installed! I removed the top plate and put the clip-ons on the forks without having to lower the forks any.

The hardest part of the whole thing was removing the top plate. Those bolts attaching it to the top triple were TIGHT. I had to put an allen bit on a 24 inch breaker bar to get enough leverage to even turn the bolt. The whole time I was worried that it might strip too much and I'd have to drill it out or something. The only time I can think of where a bolt this small was this tight was in the fuel filter for a car.

I still gotta fab up a steel/aluminum plate to bolt the gauges on to. Right now, I'm just using some zip-ties to hold them onto the top triple. Super ghetto, I know...

Other than that, it's freakin awesome. Got insane forward lean now. Just gotta get my back used to it, cuz it's hurtin real bad after only 30 minutes of riding.

Hey so you took off the top plate, put on the clip-ons without lowering the forks? Thats amazing, I want to do this. Do you have pics of the cockpit please?

1. What if I put the under the top triples?

2. ALSO if someone could post a step-by-step for vortex clipons wthout having to lower the forks....when you take of the top plate, you can just screw the clipons in the appropriate area with the SAME top fork screws? (no need for mods for this??)

3.So what I mean to say is just take off topplate, put clip-ons on, adjust them, put on the controls, fab. a top plate got gauges....sounds pretty easy.....

4.Would 89 clipons feel the same as these? (just take top plate off and replace with the 89 clipons plate??)

Thanks
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: vorBH on January 08, 2009, 02:38:26 PM
Will 89 clipons be lower than the stock handlebars on my 07 gs500f? and farther?
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: starshooter10 on January 08, 2009, 03:05:26 PM
PICS>??!
Title: Re: Vortex Clip-Ons
Post by: vorBH on January 08, 2009, 03:23:32 PM
That what Im hoping for, someone with pics with 89clions on newer GS500F....plsss