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Title: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: ABSOLUTNATI on September 25, 2007, 06:31:01 AM
I was thinking instead of doing the reflectorectomy, just completely removing the relectors. Is this "street legal"? Also does anyone have pictures of one that was done like this, or maybe some type of reflector "decal" on the tail/side instead?
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: galahs on September 25, 2007, 08:11:17 AM
I Australia it is illegal not to have a rear red reflector.

I think you could get away with having just a reflector decal. Most important function is that it works (ie reflects light)


And for the saftey of your bike both with you on it and when parked, reflectors of some sort are a necessity!
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: ABSOLUTNATI on September 25, 2007, 08:33:47 AM
True. Seen any good red reflector decals anywhere?
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: mrflagstaff on September 25, 2007, 08:41:25 AM
in arizona you just have to have rear red taillight, i dont have reflecctors on my bike
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: galahs on September 25, 2007, 08:42:39 AM
nope, but I know other members on here can.


this thread might help
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=34917.0
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: simon79 on September 25, 2007, 09:04:28 AM
Here in Italy, rear red reflector is mandatory by law.
But many bikers, I suppose the majority (me included :icon_mrgreen:) do not have one, because of a fenderectomy or an aftermarket, sportier plateholder.
It's not that big of an issue (at least here); usually the metro cops give you a fine for that, but only if/when you've been a naughty kid and/or they've decided that today you must go back home with a lighter wallet.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: ABSOLUTNATI on September 25, 2007, 09:37:22 AM
Quote from: galahs on September 25, 2007, 08:42:39 AM
nope, but I know other members on here can.


this thread might help
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=34917.0

Lol. I don't know if I love it or hate it!  :) :dunno_white:
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: pbureau69 on September 25, 2007, 09:53:26 AM
Quote from: ABSOLUTNATI on September 25, 2007, 09:37:22 AM
Quote from: galahs on September 25, 2007, 08:42:39 AM
nope, but I know other members on here can.


this thread might help
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=34917.0

Lol. I don't know if I love it or hate it!  :) :dunno_white:


aha ha....

well technically speaking in the USA it is REQUIRED to have RED/Orange Reflectors on front and back corners of vehicles, check your cars or motorcycle, they come from the factory with them, not because they are pretty to look at, but because the law requires it, now that said... I kept mine because I do TONS of nighttime driving with my "TRON" bike, and yes it may look "obscene"  to all, but... I never had a close call yet during night time.

its a misdemeanor to remove the reflectors, and most cops will only give you a ticket a) anal about life and how the produce tickets b) really looking to slap you with a bunch of technical tickets because you ran your mouth at him 2 mins before.

:thumb:
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: CndnMax on September 25, 2007, 10:27:11 AM
[quote author: Ohio Vehicle Code]
4513.06 Red reflectors required.

(A) Every new motor vehicle sold after September 6, 1941, and operated on a highway, other than a commercial tractor, to which a trailer or semitrailer is attached shall carry at the rear, either as a part of the tail lamps or separately, two red reflectors meeting the requirements of this section, except that vehicles of the type mentioned in section 4513.07 of the Revised Code shall be equipped with reflectors as required by the regulations provided for in said section.

Every such reflector shall be of such size and characteristics and so maintained as to be visible at night from all distances within three hundred feet to fifty feet from such vehicle.

(B) Whoever violates this section shall be punished as provided in section 4513.99 of the Revised Code.

Effective Date: 01-01-2004





4513.99 Penalty.

(A) Any violation of section 4513.03, 4513.04, 4513.05, 4513.06, 4513.07, 4513.071, 4513.09, 4513.10, 4513.11, 4513.111, 4513.12, 4513.13, 4513.14, 4513.15, 4513.16, 4513.17, 4513.171, 4513.18, 4513.182, 4513.19, 4513.20, 4513.201, 4513.202, 4513.21, 4513.22, 4513.23, 4513.24, 4513.242, 4513.25, 4513.26, 4513.27, 4513.28, 4513.29, 4513.30, 4513.31, 4513.32, or 4513.34 of the Revised Code shall be punished under division (B) of this section.

(B) Whoever violates the sections of this chapter that are specifically required to be punished under this division, or any provision of sections 4513.03 to 4513.262 or 4513.27 to 4513.37 of the Revised Code for which violation no penalty is otherwise provided, is guilty of a minor misdemeanor on a first offense; on a second offense within one year after the first offense, the person is guilty of a misdemeanor of the fourth degree; on each subsequent offense within one year after the first offense, the person is guilty of a misdemeanor of the third degree.

Effective Date: 01-01-2004

[/quote]
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: ABSOLUTNATI on September 25, 2007, 11:07:09 AM
Well that's some bull$%&# :laugh:!.........Fenderectomy, here I come! Oh crap, I forgot that my flush mount turn signals are attached to the back plate. hmmmmm....
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: ABSOLUTNATI on September 27, 2007, 10:38:06 AM
Quote from: CndnMax on September 25, 2007, 10:27:11 AM
[quote author: Ohio Vehicle Code]
4513.06 Red reflectors required.

(A) Every new motor vehicle sold after September 6, 1941, and operated on a highway, other than a commercial tractor, to which a trailer or semitrailer is attached shall carry at the rear, either as a part of the tail lamps or separately, two red reflectors meeting the requirements of this section, except that vehicles of the type mentioned in section 4513.07 of the Revised Code shall be equipped with reflectors as required by the regulations provided for in said section.

Every such reflector shall be of such size and characteristics and so maintained as to be visible at night from all distances within three hundred feet to fifty feet from such vehicle.

(B) Whoever violates this section shall be punished as provided in section 4513.99 of the Revised Code.

Effective Date: 01-01-2004





4513.99 Penalty.

(A) Any violation of section 4513.03, 4513.04, 4513.05, 4513.06, 4513.07, 4513.071, 4513.09, 4513.10, 4513.11, 4513.111, 4513.12, 4513.13, 4513.14, 4513.15, 4513.16, 4513.17, 4513.171, 4513.18, 4513.182, 4513.19, 4513.20, 4513.201, 4513.202, 4513.21, 4513.22, 4513.23, 4513.24, 4513.242, 4513.25, 4513.26, 4513.27, 4513.28, 4513.29, 4513.30, 4513.31, 4513.32, or 4513.34 of the Revised Code shall be punished under division (B) of this section.

(B) Whoever violates the sections of this chapter that are specifically required to be punished under this division, or any provision of sections 4513.03 to 4513.262 or 4513.27 to 4513.37 of the Revised Code for which violation no penalty is otherwise provided, is guilty of a minor misdemeanor on a first offense; on a second offense within one year after the first offense, the person is guilty of a misdemeanor of the fourth degree; on each subsequent offense within one year after the first offense, the person is guilty of a misdemeanor of the third degree.

Effective Date: 01-01-2004

[/quote]

Do you have a link to that vehicle code information?
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: CndnMax on September 27, 2007, 10:48:28 AM
Um crap let me find it..... here (http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/45)
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: ABSOLUTNATI on September 27, 2007, 11:20:48 AM
Add:

"Every such reflector shall be of such size and characteristics and so maintained as to be visible at night from all distances within three hundred feet to fifty feet from such vehicle"

So basically, any kind of red reflective material that can be seen at 300 feet. That does not exclude red reflective decals. Shape and size is not mentioned. I gues you can put red reflective flames on the side, is so desired. I was planning on adhering the reflector to the fender without the brackets. The problem is that the reflectors have a bolt that comes out of the rear. On the hunt now for an alternative that looks good.

Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: CndnMax on September 27, 2007, 11:49:54 AM
Decals may worki  :dunno_white:, you can just cut/break off the screw and nub from the reflectors.
Title: Re: Complete Reflector Removal instead of Reflectorectomy?
Post by: ABSOLUTNATI on September 27, 2007, 12:46:21 PM
I was thinking about that also.