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Title: another question about brakes
Post by: solosociety on October 15, 2007, 07:35:28 PM
on bike bandit it has the brakes listed for the gs as the same as the busa. is that possible do we have the same brakes as the 1300. i guess i dont see how that possible
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: DrtRydr23 on October 15, 2007, 08:24:14 PM
Are you talking calipers or pads?
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: solosociety on October 15, 2007, 08:25:49 PM
pads
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: DrtRydr23 on October 15, 2007, 08:49:21 PM
I don't know about the 02s, but when comparing the stats on the 06's it looks like the busa has two 6 piston front calipers and 320 mm rotors, while the GS has one 4 piston caliper and 310 mm front rotor.  Both have a 2 piston rear caliper.  On the 08's, the busa's front rotors were dropped to 310 mm, same as the 08 GS.  Also, the rear caliper was changed to a single piston model on the busa for 08.  Not sure what this says about the brake pads, but I know the GS has actually got really good brakes, so it wouldn't surprise me if it used the same size break pads as some bigger bikes.  Plus, the busa's got two sets of brakes up front for more stopping power.
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: gsJack on October 16, 2007, 07:41:53 AM
Quote from: solosociety on October 15, 2007, 07:35:28 PM
on bike bandit it has the brakes listed for the gs as the same as the busa. is that possible do we have the same brakes as the 1300. i guess i dont see how that possible

The GS500 rear pads are the same as the Hyabusa, but not the front  However, the GS500 front pads are the same as the right side front pads of many Suzuki and Kawasaki models that have dual front brakes.  Like the Bandits, SV, Katanas, V-Stroms, etc.
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: solosociety on October 16, 2007, 02:03:57 PM
sorry i forgot to specify which brake pads i was talking about. i did mean the rear.
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: solosociety on October 16, 2007, 06:43:48 PM
ok well it turns out they arent the same as the busa. and they are completly screwing me on getting the brakes. they are telling me i have to pay for shipping them back and then pay $15 more for the brakes plus shipping to get the right ones here. i have never had this much trouble with bike bandit. owell i guess the additional tire they sent me on accident is being payed for one way or another
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: gsJack on October 16, 2007, 08:10:42 PM
You still talking about rear pads?  Just checked EBC and the GS500 and the Hyabusa rear pads are the same.  EBC FA63 or FA63HH for both.  What brand pads are they talking about.  Check EBC pads here:

http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/2007usamc.pdf
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: solosociety on October 16, 2007, 08:35:17 PM
yeah still talking about the rears. the brand they are saying that doesnt exist is the galfer
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: TragicImage on October 17, 2007, 01:30:10 AM
Quote from: solosociety on October 16, 2007, 08:35:17 PM
yeah still talking about the rears. the brand they are saying that doesnt exist is the galfer


BS!


I have galfer rears on mine right now.
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: TragicImage on October 17, 2007, 01:32:19 AM
Quote from: TragicImage on October 17, 2007, 01:30:10 AM
Quote from: solosociety on October 16, 2007, 08:35:17 PM
yeah still talking about the rears. the brand they are saying that doesnt exist is the galfer



http://www.galferusa.com/streetpads.html#SUZ




BS!


I have galfer rears on mine right now.
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: solosociety on October 17, 2007, 04:49:06 PM
Thank you for writing in! these brake pads are listed for many machines. They are universal through out the ones listed for these. We do see that they are not listed for A Suzuki GS500 but for a GS500E. DO you know if your machine may be that model or is it just a GS500. Please respond with this at your earliest convenience so that we can better assist you.


this is the email they just sent me. so im confused as to what they are saying in the three different emails they have sent me
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: DrtRydr23 on October 17, 2007, 05:45:36 PM
GS 500's and GS 500 E's must use different brake pades.  Having an 02, you've got a GS 500 E.

Edit:  Scratch that.  It looks like Suzuki dropped the E from the model name around 2002 or so, you probably actually have a GS 500.  Still, I think the brakes are the same throughout most (if not all) of the years.
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: gsJack on October 17, 2007, 06:42:15 PM
The 89 thru 2000 models were called GS500E, for 01-02 they dropped the E and it's just GS500, no 03 model in US, and for 04 and later they became GS500F models with the full fairings.

ALL GS500/E/F models from 89 to present have the same EBC and Emgo rear brake pads.  The 96 to present GS500E, GS500, and GS500F models have the same front pads.  The 89-95 ones had different front pads.  There was a change in the front caliper between 95 and 96.

Don't worry about your bike being called a GS500E, many suppliers refer to all naked GS as GS500E and the fully faired ones as GS500F.  If you want the Galfer pads just tell them it's a 02 GS500E and you want the Galfer FD111 pads.

Galfer catalog:

http://www.galferusa.com/catalog.pdf



Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: solosociety on October 18, 2007, 02:47:01 PM
the fd111 are the ones that i got but they are saying that they dont fit my bike.
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: gsJack on October 18, 2007, 03:49:51 PM
Look in the catalog I linked above, Galfer says they will fit so why not try them?  Pull one of your pads out and match it up to the new FD111 ones.

Or send them back and get the EBC FA63 which I have in my 02 GS right now and they do fit.  Must have put in a dozen sets of them so far in my 97 and 02 GSs.
Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: gsJack on October 19, 2007, 09:20:19 AM
From IM from Kerry:

It's very interesting that Galfer lists a different rear pad starting in '96.  I'd sure like to know what the difference is ... but what are the chances of anyone having a (new) set of BOTH to compare?   

I did notice that in the Galfer catalog and in looking thru my Dennis Kirk and Chaparral catalogs after my posts above I noticed it for a couple other brands of pads.  I'm sure it must be just a difference in friction material and that all the rear pads are dimensionally interchangeable.  It coincides with the front caliper change. 

When I saw that I checked the parts fiches .  Suzuki orginally had one number for 89-92 models and a different one for 93-2000 and then superceeded the early number to make them all the same from 89-00.  So they are all are the same now for those years if you order oem replacements.

But the 01-02 models have a different part number from the 89-00 and are a tad higher in price.  This must be a different friction material I'm thinking since I've used the same EBC FA63 pads for both my 97 and 02 GSs.  For the 04 and later GS-F models they include the shims with the pads at more than double the price with a new number so I can't check the pad only numbers to see if they're same or not.  Don't think they'll sell many of these.   :)

Title: Re: another question about brakes
Post by: Kerry on October 19, 2007, 10:57:50 AM
Quote from: gsJack on October 19, 2007, 09:20:19 AM
I'm sure it must be just a difference in friction material and that all the rear pads are dimensionally interchangeable.

Yep - that's my guess too.