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Title: New clutch + Bike vs. Curb = Transmission failure?
Post by: whitetiger on October 19, 2007, 02:34:33 AM
So I sold my Gs 500 to my roomate and purchased a honda magna 750,  Right before I sold my gs  I put new clutch plates in it.  I had little experience with working on clutches so this could be the cause of my problem.... Anyways my roomate managed to dump my old gs leaving the drive way due to what he said was an "oil slick" in the road... From where I was standing it looked more like he didn't see the curb in front of him... but I digress, He dumped it the bike just had the clutch changed and now it can only shift through three gears... He is running generic 10w40 wich was used before with no problems and we've tried shifting gears with out the crancase cover on and no oil in the system and still only three gears.  it looks like the mechanism isn't rotating enough to catch for fourth gear.  it seems like it is getting stuck... My roomate figures he'll just ride with three gears,  but I don't want him weighing down my back seat when my bike overheats... any suggestions?
Thanks, Whitetiger.
Title: Re: New clutch + Bike vs. Curb = Transmission failure?
Post by: coll0412 on October 19, 2007, 01:14:55 PM
Doesn't sound like a clutch issues, sounds like the selector fork thingy is bent.

I cant remember what is called but sounds like you will be tearing into it pretty soon.

You are rolling it back and forth when trying to get to switch gears, ect ect
Title: Re: New clutch + Bike vs. Curb = Transmission failure?
Post by: Kasumi on October 19, 2007, 04:41:06 PM
^^^^^^

Clutch actuator arm? Although that is what the clutch cable attaches to and technically you don't need the clutch lever to upchange in a wet clutch.

Hrmmm gear selector lever, then again i would imagine a generic movement that just makes the bike flick over a cog?! Im not sure how you would lose some gears and not others. I can't imagine thats a clutch issue more gearbox related.
Title: Re: New clutch + Bike vs. Curb = Transmission failure?
Post by: sledge on October 20, 2007, 06:50:39 AM
First thing I would suspect is a a bent shift-shaft, did it go over on the L/H side?  Get the cover off and check the hook and claw for wear or damage, make sure the mechanism is tight and all the springs are in place. Try turning the selecter drum with a screwdriver while someone else gently pushes the bike forward and see if it will go into the higher gears. If not there is little else you can do, the problem is internal and probably related to the selecter forks.
Title: Re: New clutch + Bike vs. Curb = Transmission failure?
Post by: The Buddha on October 20, 2007, 08:18:50 PM
Dude, you need to rock the bike to run it through more than 1 or 2 gears. So, sit on it and push it back and forth while shifing.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: New clutch + Bike vs. Curb = Transmission failure?
Post by: whitetiger on October 30, 2007, 04:25:05 AM
well thanks for all the suggestions so far but it still isn't working, my friend got it up to fifth gear by rocking it.  He then had a lot of trouble getting it to neutral, any other suggestions?
Title: Re: New clutch + Bike vs. Curb = Transmission failure?
Post by: The Buddha on October 30, 2007, 09:04:20 AM
Dude - rock it again - the damn thing will not shift otherwise. Or ride it.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: New clutch + Bike vs. Curb = Transmission failure?
Post by: CndnMax on October 30, 2007, 12:34:44 PM
why dont you just take it out on a quick spin instead of rocking it back and forth  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: New clutch + Bike vs. Curb = Transmission failure?
Post by: The Buddha on October 30, 2007, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: CndnMax on October 30, 2007, 12:34:44 PM
why dont you just take it out on a quick spin instead of rocking it back and forth  :dunno_white:

Shhh dude, I am hoping to buy the crahsed and non shifting bike for like 20 bucks.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: New clutch + Bike vs. Curb = Transmission failure?
Post by: ivany on October 30, 2007, 07:22:24 PM
Bike transmissions are not like car transmissions. You have to rock the bike back and forth to get it to shift gears.
Title: Re: New clutch + Bike vs. Curb = Transmission failure?
Post by: whitetiger on October 30, 2007, 07:31:06 PM
My friend says it wont shift while riding it either
Title: Re: New clutch + Bike vs. Curb = Transmission failure?
Post by: The Buddha on October 31, 2007, 09:23:50 AM
In that case, a bike tranmission will also not shift under load even with partial load. If the tranny and motor are disengaged then it will shift a lot easier. So, I suspect your clutch cable is loose or something.
Cool.
Srinath.