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Title: how retarded can you be?
Post by: jserio on November 06, 2007, 10:05:34 AM
Duh... it was the chrome shield dude honestly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9zNUPDmnz4


okay. i'm not sure what the hell he did wrong but im guessing he did something right? any long time riders wanna take a crack at telling me how he did this?  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: Kasumi on November 06, 2007, 10:12:21 AM
Was it a new bike? If so probably still go greasy tyres, Gave it some power and the wheel just span out from underneath him. Any sort of oil or grease between the wheel and the road would cause that, even at those low speeds.
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: bombadillo on November 06, 2007, 05:36:27 PM
probably didn't scuff the oil off the tires first.
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: pandy on November 06, 2007, 07:57:21 PM
Oy that's painful to watch...  :icon_confused:
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: bettingpython on November 06, 2007, 08:17:27 PM
Yep new bike new tires, mold release compound sucks :cry:

Did that last fall on new tires.
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: ajaxgs on November 07, 2007, 07:57:01 AM
 :cry: that hurt
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: DrtRydr23 on November 07, 2007, 04:04:47 PM
Maybe he was used to riding less powerful bikes, and out of habit gave it more gas than he needed to.  Combined with the new tires, that's a recipe for destruction.  At least he handled the curb well.
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: kdogg84 on November 07, 2007, 04:39:37 PM
hope the bike (and rider) were ok.  i rode my bike home from the shop brand new and it was snowing out...  i was scared $#!@less that i'd take a tumble
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: bubba zanetti on November 07, 2007, 04:49:08 PM
Quote from: kdogg84 on November 07, 2007, 04:39:37 PM
hope the bike (and rider) were ok.  i rode my bike home from the shop brand new and it was snowing out...  i was scared $#!@less that i'd take a tumble

I'm fairly sure that snow wasn't the cause of him binning it.  :laugh:

What ever the cause of the stack, I'm sure that he learnt a lesson of what not to do with a new bike.  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: Prafeston on November 07, 2007, 06:18:58 PM
Looked like he was pulling it right out of the Suzuki Dealership...haha.

Atleast he had full leathers.
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: slowinthestraights on November 07, 2007, 09:20:32 PM
Quote from: DrtRydr23 on November 07, 2007, 04:04:47 PM
Maybe he was used to riding less powerful bikes, and out of habit gave it more gas than he needed to.  Combined with the new tires, that's a recipe for destruction.  At least he handled the curb well.

Or he is retarded?

When I got on my Z1000 .. which has somewhere.. oh around 80 more horsepower than my GS, I didn't give it more throttle "by habit".
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: DrtRydr23 on November 07, 2007, 09:47:04 PM
Quote from: slowinthestraights on November 07, 2007, 09:20:32 PM
Quote from: DrtRydr23 on November 07, 2007, 04:04:47 PM
Maybe he was used to riding less powerful bikes, and out of habit gave it more gas than he needed to.  Combined with the new tires, that's a recipe for destruction.  At least he handled the curb well.

Or he is retarded?

When I got on my Z1000 .. which has somewhere.. oh around 80 more horsepower than my GS, I didn't give it more throttle "by habit".

Good for you.  It would have been unfortunate if you dropped your new bike like that guy.
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: jserio on November 07, 2007, 10:24:07 PM
okay. so lets say that tires is the culprit. how to avoid this?
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 07, 2007, 11:07:43 PM
take it easy on the way out, OR get some med grit sandpaper, and scuff the tires before you take er home
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: jserio on November 07, 2007, 11:13:02 PM
if you don't scuff the tires how long of riding does it take to "scuff" em up? i'm planning on buying a bike(new) in the spring and don't wanna end up same as thiat goober.  :laugh:
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: bettingpython on November 08, 2007, 03:38:10 PM
First things first,

If your a newbie don't ride it home from the dealer, trailer it or ask an experienced rider to go with you and ride it home for you. Worst possible thing to do is ride a new bike home when you aren't an experienced rider.

Different people have different remedies for slick tires, one friend uses Goo-Be-Gone. I like to put mine up on the trackstand and sand the rear with 80 grit.

I have been riding 22 years and have ridden countleess numbers of new tires straigh out of the shop and never had an issue.

I still busted my ass last fall on a new set of tires, sometimes shaZam! just happens.
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: DrtRydr23 on November 08, 2007, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: jserio on November 07, 2007, 11:13:02 PM
if you don't scuff the tires how long of riding does it take to "scuff" em up? i'm planning on buying a bike(new) in the spring and don't wanna end up same as thiat goober.  :laugh:

I think IRC recommends 150 miles before riding full out on their tires.  I would imagine others would be similar.  I'd say put a tank of gas through her and you'd basically be good to go.
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: jserio on November 08, 2007, 09:42:38 PM
ty for the tip BP. i didn't plan to ride it home anyhow. the closest dealership isn't that far away but it's on a very busy road. i've not desire to trash the new ride before i get it home.  :)
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: jserio on November 08, 2007, 10:40:56 PM
so is the rear tire the main culprit then? i understand that all power to the bike is at the rear tire.
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: bubba zanetti on November 09, 2007, 02:02:20 AM
Quote from: jserio on November 08, 2007, 10:40:56 PM
so is the rear tire the main culprit then? i understand that all power to the bike is at the rear tire.

Unless it's front wheel drive bike.
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: bettingpython on November 09, 2007, 06:51:51 PM
Rear tire is the major culprit, a little front end push isn't an issue but when that ass steps out and keeps going or worse yet stands up and grabs a handful of traction once you pass the point of no return and pitches you over the highside you will be rather unhappy.

And just a light scuffing with sand paper is not really sufficent. I actually put the bike in gear at idle and use a sanding block with 80 grit on it, and it takes some decent pressure to abrade the rubber down below that greasy slick layer.

Several guys swear goo be gone works great and makes the tire super tacky to start with but I have a tried and true method that works and I will stick with it.,
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: jserio on November 09, 2007, 09:17:43 PM
only problem i see with that BP is that i don't have a track stand.  :laugh: don't dealers usually test ride the bikes? woudn't that be enough to help break in the tires?  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on November 09, 2007, 09:57:11 PM
not really. teh pdi ride is not much at all as far as distance goes. either be careful, scuff it like i or bp said, or find a method. but at the most,,, be careful O0
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: scottpA_GS on November 10, 2007, 09:34:30 AM

At our shop our sales people and the service manager say min 100 miles to break in new tires  :thumb:
Title: Re: how retarded can you be?
Post by: bettingpython on November 10, 2007, 09:42:13 AM
A dealer will service the bike out then ride it around the block basically before they turn it over to the customer. My wifes bike had 1.1 miles on it when we went and picked it up. Thats not enough to make a difference.

Are you buying a standard or cruiser with a center stand? Like I said I know several guys who use Goo Be Gone on their new tires and swear it works as good as my sanding. So soak the crap out of em with goo be gone and wipe them off.

If you are buying a sport bike your going to want a rearstand for things like chain cleaning and adjustment.