GS Power, andis ther any ? Rode the GS for the first time today, and as opened the throttle up and waited for something to happen, I found that nothing did, lol.
Now should I begetting a surge of power at a certain rpm /
Or is the GS a bit like ridding the old Honda CB 400 ?
You want the rpm to be set to GSXR 750 for power.
Cool.
Srinath.
No no that was the California models - they had to have the reduce rpm set up due to emissions laws. If you've got a non cali model you need the rpms set to hooligan hyabusa. You should feel a surge from about 3krpm all the way up to 14,000 odd rpm. And be getting wheelies in 1st 2nd and 3rd
Its a 20 year old 4-stroke twin.........what were you expecting?
Sound like somebody installed their powerband backwards. turn your powerband around that should fix the problem, otherwise buy a timing retard eliminator for a gixxer and install that. :thumb:
My Cali crapped up 2001 can set me down in the seat pretty good with a little crank of the wrist, so what the pros up there said... ;)
Fit a power commander, you could maybe glue it to the side of the carbs and hope for more power lol.
A photoshoped image of a GS with a power commander duct taped onto the side and the wires poked in through the side of the carbs would really fit here but i don't have the skill lol, id love to see a gs with a power commander on it haha.
Quote from: Garethbourne
Now should I begetting a surge of power at a certain rpm /
Or is the GS a bit like ridding the old Honda CB 400 ?
just in case this is at all a serious question, I find the power comes on around 5-6k. Below 5k, the motor sounds a bit different too. Must be when the vtec kicks in? :dunno_white: :icon_razz:
you were doing 50mph and on 5th gear prolly
Quote from: Garethbourne on November 19, 2007, 01:34:54 PM
GS Power, andis ther any ? Rode the GS for the first time today, and as opened the throttle up and waited for something to happen, I found that nothing did, lol.
Now should I begetting a surge of power at a certain rpm /
Or is the GS a bit like ridding the old Honda CB 400 ?
Hey ... weren't you on WWF raw ???
I swear I saw you ... didn't that Chyna female give you a wedgie right with your biker pants ???
Seriously, its rideable, usually you'd not be run over much, but you'd not be out running anything either unless its one of them accordion busses ... whose bright idea was it to let one of those stupid things run on highways ??? ever been inside it ??? I can use that bouncing to clean some carbs etc ... dry.
Cool.
Srinath.
Quote from: Kasumi on November 19, 2007, 02:48:20 PM
Fit a power commander, you could maybe glue it to the side of the carbs and hope for more power lol.
A photoshoped image of a GS with a power commander duct taped onto the side and the wires poked in through the side of the carbs would really fit here but i don't have the skill lol, id love to see a gs with a power commander on it haha.
BRB :)
DONE: total power increas= 100hp :o
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8050/carbpowercommanderzt1.jpg)
Nice job.....100hp the easy way :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Thats fully sick, I have to gets me one of them. :laugh:
Quote from: Garethbourne on November 19, 2007, 01:34:54 PM
GS Power, andis ther any ? Rode the GS for the first time today, and as opened the throttle up and waited for something to happen, I found that nothing did, lol.
Now should I begetting a surge of power at a certain rpm /
Or is the GS a bit like ridding the old Honda CB 400 ?
Dude put in some NGK sparkplugs... they have to be worth at least another 10HP!!! :icon_mrgreen:
:laugh:
Quote from: Garethbourne on November 19, 2007, 01:34:54 PM
[...]Rode the GS for the first time today, and as opened the throttle up and waited for something to happen, I found that nothing did, lol.[...]
and then you woke up and realized it was just a bad dream :laugh:
for me 6 seconds to 100kph is really plenty of power (untill I the day I'll be bored of life ;))
Hey up again, GS Power! No I don't expect, arm wrenching power, and wheelies in every gear, but I would like, a little more get up and go, than your average mountain bike, lol.
Right this is what I get -:
As I move away in first gear, then shift into second, I hold the gas open, and it seems to bee screaming for another gear, but the road speed is not that great, and as I don't want to blow the motor, I just change up, and so on, what I need to know is, will the power come in and the motor change tone if I just hold the gas open a little longer?
Always had 4 cylinder motors before, and even with an old 400 Kawasaki GPX you got a little power serge at various RPM's, so why not the GS ?
in my exp, 5000rpm is not screaming for another gear. Maybe 8500rpm is. In fact, regardless of the gear I am in or the speed I am travelling, I need to have around 5500rpm in order to have instante response.
maybe you are not telling us that you weight 280 pounds 8)
Yea 4 valve GPZ kawi's were suprisingly gutsy.
A 4 stroke is all about the head. The GS has a pathetic one. EOM.
Cool.
Srinath.
Lol, I weigh around 200 pounds, thanx dude !, I don't have a standard RPM gauge on the Suzuki, so not sure how many RPM's I have been using, I will take it out again in the morning and wring its neck, (what do they red line at, dude ?)
Quote from: CndnMax on November 19, 2007, 06:38:47 PM
DONE: total power increas= 100hp :o
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8050/carbpowercommanderzt1.jpg)
OMG i love you! That is exactly what i had in mind lol! You wouldn't be able to get that to avatar size for me would you!
The GS redlines at 11k rpms.
but you could probably crank it to 14K or so to get optimum "surge"
-Anti 8)
Quote from: The Antibody on November 20, 2007, 11:33:55 AM
but you could probably crank it to 14K or so to get optimum "surge"
-Anti 8)
how many more new noises do you want our bikes to mke at 14+ k :laugh: :laugh: valve float a 11k is loud enough
Got it, what I was trying to explain, is, there is no torc in the GS just lots of RPM, cant feel any pull on it, it just seems lame, but then if it red lines at 11000 RPM , I probably need to rev it a little harder, as I have only maybe had it up to about 5500 to 6000 RPM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/jcp8832/GS500gearing-rpms.jpg)
Quote from: Garethbourne on November 20, 2007, 11:03:29 AM
Lol, I weigh around 200 pounds, thanx dude !, I don’t have a standard RPM gauge on the Suzuki, so not sure how many RPM’s I have been using, I will take it out again in the morning and wring its neck, (what do they red line at, dude ?)
If you don't have a tach you can see from the chart above the speeds where the GS500 hits redline if you have standard gearing. I've never weighed less than 240# since I got my first GS500 and have chased liter bikes thru the mountain twisties with them. I run between 4-6k rpm just putting around and between 7-9k rpm riding all out. HP peaks at about 8500 rpm and Torque peaks at about 7000 rpm on a stock GS.
i find my power ( :laugh: :laugh:) ....after 6k to about 9500 k then starts to drop off
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/garethbourne/Honda20CB400N2078.jpg)
Had one of these and i shaZam! you not, it had more go than the GS lol
Quote from: Kasumi on November 20, 2007, 11:12:58 AM
OMG i love you! That is exactly what i had in mind lol! You wouldn't be able to get that to avatar size for me would you!
I'll see what i can do, might have to make the power commander bigger so you can tell.
these are the best that i've got for now:
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/2824/photoscarbnjetphotoscarse4.jpg)
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/2554/photoscarbnjetphotoscarfa4.jpg)
Yeah, I'd make room for that old Honda in my garage!
Yeah, I found that I was "coasting" at 4-4.5K, moving along nicely with a decent (to me) throttle response in every gear (I only ever got into 3rd, except on the highway, I hit 4th) at 5.5-6K, wound it up (not much) to about 7.5 - 8K before shifting up if accelerating. In the twisties I keep it revved about 6K+ so I have some engine braking in between turns (which also helps if I need to brake to adjust entry speed before a turn), and good roll on response out of them. I weigh about 140 with all my gear on. Don't tell anyone, though!
im 185 filthy pounds, yeah! anyway, the gs is very responsive (all stock except air filter).
Like a year ago I was dating this girl who was 120lbs, and with a combined weight of around 300 pounds, the GS had to struggle a bit on take off and braking, other than that, it was perfect.
the Gs has great pull. but then again Im WOT most of the time when getting upto speed.
Quote from: Garethbourne on November 20, 2007, 10:28:44 AM
As I move away in first gear, then shift into second, I hold the gas open, and it seems to bee screaming for another gear, but the road speed is not that great, and as I don't want to blow the motor, I just change up, and so on, what I need to know is, will the power come in and the motor change tone if I just hold the gas open a little longer?
Are you sure your clutch isn't slipping? Sounds to me like it is :icon_confused:
Quote from: Kasumi on November 20, 2007, 11:12:58 AMYou wouldn't be able to get that to avatar size for me would you!
How about one of these?
(http://bbburma.net/Avatars/Kasumi_2.gif)
(http://bbburma.net/Avatars/Kasumi_2.jpg)
Quote from: Kerry on November 20, 2007, 06:51:31 PM
Quote from: Kasumi on November 20, 2007, 11:12:58 AMYou wouldn't be able to get that to avatar size for me would you!
How about one of these?
(http://bbburma.net/Avatars/Kasumi_2.gif)
(http://bbburma.net/Avatars/Kasumi_2.jpg)
Do you use a special program to resize pics?I can't seem to do it using Vista Basic's program.
Good free programs to use are infranview http://www.infranview.com (easy to use)
or the ultimate Photoshop Replacement (hard to use), The Gimp
http://www.gimp.org
Quote from: ben2go on November 20, 2007, 07:02:58 PMDo you use a special program to resize pics?I can't seem to do it using Vista Basic's program.
[IrfanView (http://www.irfanview.com)] is my go-to program for "simple" stuff ... and "simple" stuff is about all I do. ;)
To turn non-square images into avatars (like the first one above) I use
Microsoft Paint :o to add "transparent space" to the short sides, and then I copy it back to
IrfanView to crop and save as a GIF. If anybody is interested, I could probably whip up a short "pictorial tutorial" on the process. (http://bbburma.net/Smilies/dunno_black.gif)
I just use good ol' trusty PhotoShop
Quote from: CndnMax on November 20, 2007, 11:12:46 PMI just use good ol' trusty PhotoShop
Hmmm ... that must mean that you
have "good ol' trusty PhotoShop". :bowdown:
PS - Would you like me to fix your animated GIF so it's not all stretched out? ;) (Confession: I would have to use my PaintShop Pro or Animation Shop for that one.)
Quote from: Kerry on November 20, 2007, 11:19:57 PM
PS - Would you like me to fix your animated GIF so it's not all stretched out? ;) (Confession: I would have to use my PaintShop Pro or Animation Shop for that one.)
the original (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gaugesgl0.gif) one isn't messed up it was just two wide. But if you are looking for an excuse to use your tools then by all means. :thumb:
Quote from: CndnMax on November 21, 2007, 12:03:32 AMthe original (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gaugesgl0.gif) one isn't messed up it was just two wide.
Yeah, that's the thing. The message board software stretches / squishes too-small or too-large or non-square images to fit the standard 100x100 pixel avatar space. I resort to the "invisible space" trick and save as a GIF to fix the non-square problem. For your current avatar, each of the three component images would need to be pre-shrunk and have the "space" added, and then be re-animated I guess.
I may have to reinstall PSP, it's not on my Programs list any more! :icon_confused:
BTW, can I get access to the "
original originals"? The one of the bike looks like it's already been "pixelated" to some degree. We should be able to get it sharper than that. :thumb:
Quote from: Kerry on November 21, 2007, 12:18:59 AM
Quote from: CndnMax on November 21, 2007, 12:03:32 AMthe original (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gaugesgl0.gif) one isn't messed up it was just two wide.
Yeah, that's the thing. The message board software stretches / squishes too-small or too-large or non-square images to fit the standard 100x100 pixel avatar space. I resort to the "invisible space" trick and save as a GIF to fix the non-square problem. For your current avatar, each of the three component images would need to be pre-shrunk and have the "space" added, and then be re-animated I guess.
I may have to reinstall PSP, it's not on my Programs list any more! :icon_confused:
BTW, can I get access to the "original originals"? The one of the bike looks like it's already been "pixelated" to some degree. We should be able to get it sharper than that. :thumb:
Yeah transparent pixels are pain with the animation software that comes with photoshop, if you don't do it right it converts it to white.
Lets go with these
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6761/lb05c1994b6f49988fdeb6flc8.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6761/lb05c1994b6f49988fdeb6flc8.jpg)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8348/img1493xq3.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8348/img1493xq3.jpg)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3152/img1495jp4.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3152/img1495jp4.jpg)
How's this for a first stab?
(http://bbburma.net/Avatars/CndnMax.gif)
clutch is fine dude, the bike pulls away fine, it just feels lame, allmost like its been restricted or something, and it cant rev out, guess i would need to ride another GS to see what the differance is.
stock all the way? or mods done?, ( im sorry, ive not read through teh entire thing, :oops:, but at around 5-5500, you just puttin, tach up to around 8k or more, thats where the gs is happy, and runs WELL :thumb:
the motor sounds like its been overworked at 5500 - 6000 RPM let alone higher, do they sound that way as a norm ?
as far as i am aware its all stock
WOW...... a 400N super(wet)dream. Have you still got it? Give me £50 and I will come and take it away for you :laugh:
dude, you may laugh, but you try and get a good 400 dream for les than £250
where you from dude, i'me in staffordshire moorlands
Quote from: Garethbourne on November 21, 2007, 01:56:06 AM
the motor sounds like its been overworked at 5500 - 6000 RPM let alone higher, do they sound that way as a norm ?
Give it up! :cookoo: It's just coming on the power then. Stay in it! And the audible valve float and drop in power is very easy to detect once you're close to redline, so you won't be overreving it.
I know how much they are worth. They are almost 30yrs old now and turning into a modern classic same as the 250N is. Give it a few more years and its value will start going up, thats why I wanted yours for nothing :laugh:
Quote from: Garethbourne on November 21, 2007, 02:45:46 AM
where you from dude, i'me in staffordshire moorlands
I have the SOLUTION to your problem. And im not kidding! I've been thinking how could you have a bike that runs ok just doesn't go ok then it hit me.
You live in the UK am i right?
You have a 33bhp restrictor kit fitted to your bike! The GS isn't gutsy but with the 33bhp restrictor kit it is absolutly gutless, i test rode one when i was looking to buy my first big bike at 17 and it had the 33bhp restrictor kit already in and wouldn't go for pants and i weighed nothing back then.
This would explain why it feels like it has no power for no reason that you could notice... It may be that the bike sounds like its screaming for its life but your putting this in comparison to how high your revving it for the power your getting, you could be revving it to 10k but feeling like your getting no power.
I think i've solved it hehehe!
Ok.... how to identify a restrictor kit and remove it!.
A restrictor kit in the UK is fitted to bike to comply with the license laws that dictate if you are between the ages of 17-21 you must do a restricted access motorcycle license, meaning that you do the same test as you would for your direct access motorcycle license but you do it on a 125cc bike. When you pass your test you are restricted to a bike of 25kW of energy (33bhp) for 2 years and then you are free to ride whatever CC motorcycle you like. With the GS500 been a beginner bike many people buy them as their first bike and as most of the people who are brand new to motorcycling they usually are younger and have to do the restricted license (the older riders 21+ do direct access and usually buy something squidly like a gixxer 1000 for their first bike). The whole point of the restrictor kit is you very rarely get any bike which fully utilizes the 33bhp limit, 125cc are way too low bhp and 400's ,500's and 600's are usually too much. Many people buy the bike they want, a 500 or 600cc then restrict it to 33bhp.
Ok now what your looking for...
Unbolt and disconnect the tank to get it out of the way. Take the airbox off and out of the way so you can get to the carb assembly. Unbolt the whole carb assembly from the engine. Ok what your looking for is a set of washers that sit between the carbs and the engine. They will look slightly out of place, usually it will be 2 gaskets with a washer in the centre. The washer has a hole in the middle which dictates the amount of fuel/air mix which can get into the combustion chamber. The hole relates to the amount of fuel/air mix that is required to simulate the bike only having a 33bhp engine. All you have to do is take the washer's out and bolt the whole thing back together... make sure that you use the original gaskets to seal the carbs back on (you don't want leaks once you've taken the washers out). Now you have de-restricted GS500 :) With its factory engine power.
I imagine your looking to pull out 2 washers as its got twin carbs.
Now this is done at your own risk and i only listed this based on my mechanical knowledge and experience... it may be illegal for you to remove these washers if you currently ride with a restricted license. (denoted by >25kW in the restrictions section on the back of your plastic drivers license card). If you get into an accident or are caught speeding, the police MAY (i must stress MAY, not usually) request that you provide a dyno report to prove your bike is restricted. Now i havn't met anyone so far who has had a dyno report requested but i know i can happen. This may add a further penalty to your speeding or accident case and could invalidate your insurance as its a legal requirement.
However i will express my OWN opinion on this subject. Bikes go fast, restrictor or not you can break the speed limit and get into an accident. If you get into an accident then its your own risk whether the insurance decides to check your bike for legal requirements but i doubt they would bother with it, its not worth the effort as you could still have had the same accident with a restrictor. The police will probably not think or be bothered to try and get you to provide a dyno report (or proof of restriction certificate - you get one when a certified mechanic fits the restrictor kit) as you could quickly put the washers back in. They caught you for speeding thats all they are interested in. Since restrictor kits for 33bhp motorcycles are only ment to keep them to just under 100mph (they significantly reduce acceleration tho) the police would not think anything was unusual unless you were really pushing it like 130+ - but you would be in bigger shaZam! then anyway. Just my opinion as i have a restricted license for another year yet.
Hi, I thought about the bike being restricted to 33 bhp, (not looked at it yet though) but the bike is an import from Poland, and as is of yet still unregistered in the uk (just got the MOT and waiting for the DVLA), and also it as an after market can on (Future) going to have a look to see if The law requires the vehicle to be restricted, like they are in cal
Are you a UK resident with teh bike imported from poland?
If you live in the UK then the restrictor kit relates entirely to what your license dictates, Basically if your under 21 and hold a uk motorcycle license it should be restricted to 33bhp. If you are over 21 and CHOOSE to do a direct access test on a bike like a 500cc or similar then you don't need the restrictor.
The restrictor has nothing to do with emissions or any such thing it is purly a UK license requirement.
My guess is if the bike is from poland it may well have a restrictor kit fitted (some countries in the EU use identical motorcycle laws to how we do in the UK so it is likely that a restrictor is required for some license in poland)
EDIT: Ok you are from the UK ( judging by MoT and DVLA) sorry for my bad spotting of that. It isn't the bike that requires the restriction its YOU as a rider. If you hold a british license then like i have explained you may or may not need a restrictor. If you have moved here from Poland and imported the bike then you will need to speak to the DVLA and ask them if your polish license requires you to have a restrictor kit fitted.
If it doesn't then check for restriction and rip the washers out... if it does mean you need a restrictor kit then you need to check your bike has one. If it does have one you need a certificate to prove it - this may require you getting a mechanic to check that it is properly fitted and issue you a certificate which says you have one in. Alternativly they may say you need to buy a new one as there is no stamping on the washers to prove they provide the right level of restriction.
:laugh:lol :laugh: I am from the UK , it's the bike that's from Poland, and at the grand age of 42 yrs, , when I passed the only restriction, was a seat low enough to get my leg over, lol,
But I think your right it as to be restricted, so I will investigate, and let you know the result dude, and sorry for the misunderstanding over nationality
Never heard of Plod asking for a dyno-result but sometimes insurance companies request one to prove the bike is restricted.....I think most rozzers wouldnt know what one is! and how could you prove its for your bike. Usual way is to provide evidence of the fact the bike has a restricter kit fitted if its on the PNC as having over 33bhp stock, this is usually a certificate or document signed or stamped by the dealer who fitted it that includes registration and frame numbers. Plod know they are easy to remove and that a lot of learners do this which is why larger bikes with L plates are magnets for traffic cops. If you cant provide satisfactory proof of the bike being restricted they will nail you for driving without the correct license (Code LC20, 3-6 ponts) and no insurance (IC10 6-8points). Given you could get more than 12 points for the 2 offences combined you could be given a "Totter" and a 12 month ban.
The government came under pressure to do something to reduce the accident rates among learner bikers which is why we have such complicated laws. Some aspects have worked well but the issue of restricting to 33bhp is debateable, you can still hit 100mph with 33bhp but the Government wanted to be seen to be doing something constructive.
If as a learner restricted to 33bhp you are involved in a serious accident they may sieze your bike as evidence and instruct VOSA to examine it and determine not only if it was road legal (condition of tyres brakes etc) but also if it was actually restricted or not.
Quote from: galahs on November 20, 2007, 08:55:22 PM
Good free programs to use are infranview http://www.infranview.com (easy to use)
or the ultimate Photoshop Replacement (hard to use), The Gimp
http://www.gimp.org
I got Gimp but have a hard time with it.I'll try infranview.Thanks to all.
Kerry I along with many others are glad to see that you are back on the forum.Thanks for the Valve adjustment video.That and Dgyver showing me,I learned to adjust my valves. :bowdown:
Sorry to stray off topic. :oops:
Yea good points.
Current Law on motorcycling in the UK...
You can ride a 50cc motorcycle (max speed 31mph) at 16 with a provisional license and CBT and L plates, at 17 you can then ride a 125cc (max power output of 11kW) under the same conditions without further testing again on L plates.
If you want to get rid of the L plates and carry a pillion you can do a category A1 light motorcycle license, you have to pass the test on a bike between 70cc and 125cc and capable of at least 60mph.
If you want to ride anything bigger than 125cc without L plates and be able to carry passengers and travel on motorways you need to do your direct access license (cat. A). Identical tests on different bikes... Under 21 you have to do the test on a 125cc machine if you pass you gain a full motorcycle license but with a 2 year 33bhp (25kW) power restriction. If you are over 21 you do the test on a bike of more than 35kW and this gives you a full license with no restriction.
There are a couple more rules but regard only what happens if you turn 21 during your restriction period - basically you have to do the direct access test for over 21 riders anyway.
Im totally against the restriction rule. It doesn't take into account that motorcycles vary, some weight less than others, some have performance modifications or anything like that which is my first point. The second is you can kill yourself going any speed on a motorcycle you can still do rediculous speeds on a restricted bike AND you still get there damn faster than a car even tho restrictors kill acceleration. I see no point in it. Who has more accidents young bikers or young car drivers, yes that would be young car drivers. Who does more damage in accidents young bikers or young car drivers, that would be young car drivers again. Insurance is rediculous whatever car you get when your a young driver here in the UK and there is no restriction placed on how fast they can go and theyre driving round in 2 tonnes of pure killing machine! Riding in this country is so penalised its untrue.
Quote from: Kerry on November 21, 2007, 01:03:17 AM
How's this for a first stab?
<---- Looks a lot better, thanks kerry :thumb:
(Kerry !) is that your surname dude ?
Quote from: Garethbourne on November 21, 2007, 02:42:07 PM
(Kerry !) is that your surname dude ?
Nope ... that would be "Burton". Both of which show up in various place names and histories in the UK I imagine. :icon_mrgreen:
Kerry, the biting point on the GS's clutch is real low, bike starts to pull away just after you releas the lever a a lttle, would that be an ajustment do you think ?
I've always had to ease the clutch out slowly and keep up the RPM's, and that's even on mine which puts out about 49hp to the rear. It's not going to rocket you anywhere but it's fairly quick and the handling is great on tight canyons.
Quote from: Garethbourne on November 21, 2007, 03:04:29 PM
Kerry, the biting point on the GS's clutch is real low, bike starts to pull away just after you releas the lever a a lttle, would that be an ajustment do you think ?
Hmmm ... define "a little". ;)
The Haynes manual has you set the clutch lever freeplay (as shown below) to somewhere between 10 and 15mm. As I recall, the Clymer has you measure the gap at the other end of the lever instead, with a measurement of something like 3 or 4mm. (Sorry - my Clymer is currently on loan.)
Of course, this check is done with the bike off. Over the 10-15mm range you should feel NO resistance from the actual clutch mechanism. As soon as you do, that's where you take the measurement.
(http://bbburma.net/Scans/Haynes_ClutchLeverFreeplay.jpg)
If you need to
adjust the freeplay, you can refer to the (pretty poor) 1 minute video on my website, or you can probably find some great GStwin posts with a search.
restricting the lil GS is retarded, which is why I love Cali no inspections for motorcycles and no restrictions :icon_mrgreen:.
think i have sorted out the clutch, slackend the cable of, then undid the lock nut, and turned the screw in the centure until it met resistance, then backed it of a little, tightend the lock nut back up, and adjusted the cable, now the clutch lever is about 2 thirds of the way out when it is fully engaged insted of about 5 mm from the bar grip ! not to sure about the best way to test clutch, so i warmed up the motor, and put the front wheel against a wall and i got no clutch slip, ( lots of wheel spin, lol) but no slip, so it cant be to far out now, right ?
All i need is the bloody rain to stop for a while so i can give it a good run,
Could it be your bike is running lean?
I tired riding my bike with a K&N airfilter but with stock jets and the engine would not go past 6,000RPM
how is the progress? did you figure it out?? did you fix the problem with lack of power??
Hi, not sure whether I have been giving the GS a fair chance,the last parallel twin I road was a CB 400N and that was many years ago, but I always seem to remember it as been a nippy motor, back then, having said that, we do tend to remember selectively, lol , I remember getting an RGV 250 about 5 years ago, and I thought to myself, wow, it will be just like going back to my college days, but after owning the RGV for only a few months, I soon started to remember all the shaZam! that comes with having a two stroke motor, lol. most of my bikes have been 4 cylinder 16 valve motors, and in the case of the FZR it had 20 valves, admittedly most have been twice the size motor to the GS, but I did have an old GPX 400 and it went very well, top speed around 115, but it got you there very very fast, with surges of power at various rev ranges, the GS I suppose is just a sporty looking commuter, so expecting it to have any va va voom, is a little optimistic, lol
The GS is fast , but not compared to other sportier bikes , it's got healthy mid range but having 2 valves it lacks in the top end .
People tend to get bored with it's engine on the straights without realizing the real fun in the twisty stuff , it is a commuter basically
but one with a stiff frame , get suspension sorted and it becomes a real corner carver.
You had an RGV250 so you know how to carry corner speed with 2 strokers, so you do with GS although it's a 2 valver instead :icon_razz:
I've been riding mine for 7 years now , and although I want something faster ,every time I ride it I have tons of fun,
you just have to keep it in good shape :thumb:
Thought about getting new front sprocket with I extra tooth on it, to give the GS a little more top end, but you are right it is a good bike for the corners.
110 MPH is not enough top end??
by adding one tooth in front you will totally kill the acceleration plus you won't be able to utilize all range of RPM. Usually people go down 1 tooth on front sprocket to get quicker acceleration and to be able to use whole RPM range.
just my $0.02
KaMeL
I have a kawasaki zxr, and as everyone knows kawasaki's are all about top end. Nothing exciting happens till about 10k rpm but then it tears along at light speed up to the 14700rpm redline. I love my bike because its light and flicks through corners quick and grips the road like nothing else but i must say its really useless for commuting or riding round the country roads by me. Its great when you get on the fast B roads its where it should live or on a race track, but its not got enough torque for riding the windy backroads.
Top end isn't fun, its not useable and you have no torque going up a tooth. Im hoping to swap my bike for a Supermoto or Duc Hypermotard because that ladies and gentlemen, is where its at!
Hey, how's it going, right, I rode the GS this morning and at about 145 MPH it starts to splutter, then I have to shift into top gear, is that the rev restrictor kicking in, lol, only joking!!!(be lucky if the GS gets you to three figures!!!)
I have noticed that when the motor begins to scream, if you hold the throttle open for just a little longer, it seems to change engine tone and you get a slight boost in power, does that sound about right, for the GS?
Ehh nope, GS has a pretty flat power delivery without any bumps through out the rev range ,
so make sure your valves are good ,valve adjustment makes immediately noticeable difference,
once the valves are in check you can start blaming the carbs for any irregularities ;)
There is a little valve noise, bit like a very light metallic sound, but as I say it is very very light noise, anyway I thought the valves where hydraulically operated and adjusted themselves, for so long, then you needed to buy valve shims. I think the biggest issue with the GS is the fact it only as a 4 valve head, even the old CB 400 N had a 6 valve head, lol,