(http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/suzuki-history/2002/2002_GS1200SS_450.jpg)
100 HP and 462 lbs.
GS1200SS Retro rocket
Suuuuwwwwweeeeeeeettttttt....
Are they still making this! Its unchanged from the 80's...
QuoteIts unchanged from the 80's...
Yeah...especially the butt! :P
Why is it so heavy?
Hate to dis Suzuki which I have a lot of respect for, but that Yamaha Fazer looks like a lot more bike...if we're pipe-dreaming about imports we'll probably never see anyway....
Quote from: pantabloAre they still making this! Its unchanged from the 80's...
Look closely Pablo - it looks more like a B12 with 1st gen GSX-R bodywork than it does a true vintage GS1100.
And fd3s...462 lbs. isn't all that heavy for a standard liter bike. We're not talking about an all aluminum twin spar frame here!
You want that...buy a 89-92 GSXR 1100 and paint the frame black...TRust me 100hp is a joke for the 1100...How much did they make guys...the water cooled ones made 130 or so at the rear wheel stock, the air oil bike made close to 125 with minor intake and exhaust mods. Which is the only dyno run I have personally made.
Cool.
Srinath.
Quote from: seshadri_srinathYou want that...buy a 89-92 GSXR 1100 and paint the frame black...TRust me 100hp is a joke for the 1100...How much did they make guys...the water cooled ones made 130 or so at the rear wheel stock, the air oil bike made close to 125 with minor intake and exhaust mods. Which is the only dyno run I have personally made.
Cool.
Srinath.
...or if you really want a new bike, buy a Bandit 1200 and mount some 1st gen gixxer bodywork.
OOoohhhYYHHEEAAAHHH!!! SWEEET!! But, I'd rather have an '87 750.
Horsepower shmorshpower. It's all about torque, baby!
Keep moving, nothing to see here.
You want torque from a Suzuki? Look no further than another bike that is "unobtainium" for us Yanks....
(http://www.snichol.freeserve.co.uk/gsx_side_260102.JPG)
1400cc's ought to be good for some axle twisting torque.
I can't believe you guys! You call yourselves GS fans and have never seen or heard of this bike? It only sells in Japan and has almost 100 ft lbs of torque! It's only been produced 2001-2003 so far and is a huge hit over there.
http://www.suzukicycles.org/GS-series/GS1200SS.shtml
I'd like mine without that ugly ass front fairing. Slap a good ole' GS500 headlight on it and it would kick ass! :mrgreen:
I thought I read in one of the UK mags recently a review of this bike and it inferred that it WAS an 80's design still being made...maybe I read it wrong. If its new it looks WAY too 80's what with those dual old school headlights and all... Nice though. I cant imagine they'd use what most consider old technology (bandits) to make a new bike...
btw- that gsx1400 got crappy reviews in UK mags when compared to the other big bore bikes (honda cb1300, fjr1300?, etc.).
Yeah that retro is thorougly modern.
Didn't Canada get the GSX-1400?
QuoteNice though. I cant imagine they'd use what most consider old technology (bandits) to make a new bike
Dude, what are you riding? The GS mill is probably the oldest tech on the market and we love it. I would love a 450 lb. bike with 100 foot pounds of torque and a 100 HP, but that's just me. I love this bike for the same reason I love the ZRX1200R, I'm married now so I'll probably never have either one, but one can hope can't they. Although, I guess hoping for this bike coming to the States is a pipe dream.
GS is old tech...but This is why we love it (of course there is a huge majority that thinks its their personal door mat...Buy it to learn and buy a bigger one)
Why we love the GS...
Low power and good handling make for a fun bike, high power and poor handling (as any 450 lb dry top heavy 4 cyl is bound to be) will be a nightmare. I know cos I own one hell I own several...my eliminator 1000 is a classic example...that bike is a lot of work when riding and even more work when working on it.
Cool.
Srinath.
One of my pipe dreams is to take a GS1100 apart and having my way with it in the following manner:
Either,
Bore it out and port the head, flat slides, lightened crank, etc.
or
Ditch the old engine entirely and put in a GSXR1100 mill in.
Brace the frame up.
Stick a '90s GSXR front end on.
And a wide rear wheel out back.
Chop the sub-frame.
Ohlins twin piggyback shocks.
Shortened gas tank (maybe even squeeze on a GSXR one).
'89 GSXR750 racing tail.
The upper from an '80s GSXR up front (like the retro).
All the above in carbon fiber.
Donno about what kinda pipe for my vapor dream. low megas are cool, but you don't get much clearance with them. Maybe an over the case, motocross-ish high pipe?
Quote from: Piper5177I can't believe you guys! You call yourselves GS fans and have never seen or heard of this bike? It only sells in Japan and has almost 100 ft lbs of torque! It's only been produced 2001-2003 so far and is a huge hit over there.
http://www.suzukicycles.org/GS-series/GS1200SS.shtml
Most of us call ourselves GS-TWIN fans, to be more specific.
Quote from: Piper5177Dude, what are you riding? The GS mill is probably the oldest tech on the market ....
I meant that its old technology for being a new(ish) bike and also against its competition.
Ahhh, I'm just an 80's retro kinda guy. Not to mention I do love the GSX1100R, and this is just a "newer" version that weighs about 100lbs less than the water cooled GSXR beasts of the early 90's.
It's ok Piper. We don't have to like it.
I personally think it is an ugly, pile of crap.
I am a GS-TWIN fan like Pam.
I don't work for Suzuki, I don't have to like everything they make.
-Anti
YOU MUST LIKE IT! Everything I like you have to like. Nobody is entitled to their own opinion, what do you think this is, a Democracy? :)
A mate of mine has been looking at a new GSX1400 in my local dealership, much as I like Suzuki the other three big jap manufacturers all market very similar muscle-bikes plus Triumphs and Beemers waiting to be launched into this area. I suppose you guys will get frustrated about them not being imported into the U.S. but I think you'll find that wherever you live there always seems to be a gap in the import spectrum, in U.K. there are hardly any 250 or 400 bikes which I understand are the top sellers in Japan, we seem to have dozens of 125s and 600s, as a result we now have a huge "grey" import marked in both new and second-hand bikes, it's one thing, at least that we can thank the E.C. for, it's the removal of barriers to what can be shipped from country to country. Is there a "grey" import market in U.S? is there a business opportunity? or is this stopped by non-tarrif barriers, exhaust regs and such like.
all of the above.
There is a very small niche market for these bikes. It would be bigger I think if the manufactureres would bring them in offically, because the price would be low enough that smaller, younger, female riders would be interested. But as of right now, between the cost of shipping, duties, registration fees you are looking at $2000 extra on top of the price of the bike at least.
That puts them out of reach for all but the enthusiast.
Yes, point taken. In UK the "greys" or parralell imports are actually cheaper than the manufacturers "official" importer even model for model, that is probably because the end user is paying too much anyway, as usual. Problems used to arise with warranty etc but the grey market is now so well organised that it has it's own back-up service for many bikes. Another thing is that we get a lot direct from Japan which is amazing as dealers can bring a bike halfway around the planet and still sell it for less than the "official" outlet. This is probably because second-hand prices in japan are very low but it even applies to new probably because Japan spec seems to be road-legal here and may not be in many other countries.
The point of the above ramble was, once a few people do it the manufacturers and official importers start to take notice, improve the range (hopefully) but it has, without doubt, bought down prices.