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Title: enough power?
Post by: imchrislara on March 03, 2008, 07:45:16 PM
hey guys i am just wondering if this bike will have enough power to make me happy, yes i know its only a 500 but i cant get another super sport. but i want something i can still stunt. haha girlfriend wont let me get another SS. last bike i had was a 05' 600F4i and i used to stunt it. i will probally take all the fairings off and streetfighter like i did with my F4i. let me know how she gets up and also if the brakes are good enough to stoppie. i know you guys dont condone it cuz they are not a "superbike" and most of you are more mild mannered
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: philward on March 03, 2008, 07:47:34 PM
If you want to stunt it you will definitely need to change sprockets.
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: imchrislara on March 03, 2008, 07:51:49 PM
sprocket size suggestions? i am not farmiliar with this bike so i wouldnt know. also best slip on?
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: philward on March 03, 2008, 07:55:01 PM
If you're not new to the GS then the best place to look at first for modifications is the wiki (http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500). :thumb:

This thread here (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=28026.0) is all about the 14t front sprocket upgrade and people's experience with it.

Oh, and welcome!  :cheers:
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: scottpA_GS on March 03, 2008, 08:05:06 PM
 If "Yo Girl" wont let you roll out on anotha "SS" Den you bess be gittn' a Bussa yo! GS Ain't goin be you thang see?  O0

WORD  :thumb:

Srinath ? Mount up ?

Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: spc on March 03, 2008, 08:12:04 PM
You could try a busa............. it isn't actually a supersport, tis but a lowly sport cruiser.

Ya, stoppies aren't gonna happen on a 2 pot single disc front end........end of f%$king story.

Wheelies, ehh if you got skill.  Given that you stunted an F4i I'm gonna say you probably went with the 'in-crowd' and changed the sprockets on it for a better ratio thus never learning how to effectively control a wheelie..........


Ya wanna stunt and not have an SS?? get a DRZ.....those fuckers will wheelie and stoppie all day long if you got any skill.
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: imchrislara on March 03, 2008, 11:26:29 PM
so no stoppies unless i went with a front brake swap eh? i was the only one of my buddies who got an F4i and stuntted it. i could reach balance point with no problems and ride for long periods of time no problem. but i just want something fun and practical. any suggestions on the front brake swap? busa is out of the question girlfriend knows what they are haha. we watch a lot of vids and go ride with alot of my friends
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: galahs on March 04, 2008, 01:01:16 AM
mate just carry a length of 4x2 and stick it in your wheel spokes and enjoy the stoppies!


I think if you fitted some stainless steel lines and some HH pads you should be able to pull a stoppie especially if you have the stock springs in place.

Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: Jarrett on March 04, 2008, 02:11:43 AM
Honestly, you can do anything you want on a GS.  Stoppie, wheelie, whatever you want.  just depends on if you've got the skill.  You're stunting the bike, the bike isn't stunting with you along for the ride. 

Now is the GS the best platform for stunting?  Absolutely not!  Get an SV650 or 650R if "yo gurl" wont let you get a SS.

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Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: imchrislara on March 04, 2008, 02:18:34 AM
yeah but i found a used 99gs for 1900 and thats a damn deal only 4600 miles
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: Affschnozel on March 04, 2008, 02:52:39 AM
Ask this dude : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KJ9QV14b5I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KJ9QV14b5I)   he seems to know how to stunt a GS with a 46 tooth rear sprocket

but you know it's only a 500  ;)

Edit: by looking at the vid you should conclude that the "it's only 500" was said with sarcasm, 'cause the bike is as good as it's rider   :icon_razz:
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: ben2go on March 04, 2008, 03:37:52 AM
Problem with the GS is the oil sump.Keep the front or rear up to long and get aBIG BOOM.The oil runs away from the oil pick up,running the engine dry.Then you get engine lock up.Not good with the front wheel 4 feet in the air.
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: galahs on March 04, 2008, 05:34:55 AM
I have never looked into the sump pan of a GS500 but would adding some custom baffles help ensure the pick-up has oil for longer?
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: ohgood on March 04, 2008, 05:49:03 AM
at first i thought the thread starter was just trolling. but he's seriously going to take a gs that's in really good shape, low milage, pay good money for it, and then trash it for a few wheelies/stoppies ? ouch.

ok dude, it's your business, but you really should consider buying one of the million + barely runnin rashed bikes that's allready lost it's fairings to an idiot. save you a ton of cash, and parts are already falling off your buddies stunt machines ;) so you can just pick them up and fix yours !

if / when you start getting the wheel up on your 'new' gs, make sure your tats show up good in the pictures , and don't skimp on the flip flops aight ?  :thumb:

if you look really close, you can see the gs in it's proper environment @ the stunt show:
(http://lh5.google.com/gs500zuki/R8tnWlbH82I/AAAAAAAAAww/fQCX0-UU6uI/DSCN0623.JPG?imgmax=576)
which would be, -not- stunting, but waiting for the fun ride home -from- the stuntin ;)
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: spc on March 04, 2008, 06:45:30 AM
If you insist on a GS, you'd be happiest with one that was a track toy.........preferably that already has a twin disc front end.
One of the 650's would serve you well, they tend to be pretty torquey so it would definitely do what you want    and the 650r kinda has wave rotors up front............
I still say get a 'tard...............
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: galahs on March 04, 2008, 07:34:31 AM
What's the biggest rear sprocket you can easily put on a GS?
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: spc on March 04, 2008, 07:52:07 AM
I seem to remember seeing a 52 in a catalog....... :cookoo:
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: Susuki_Jah on March 04, 2008, 07:40:39 PM
15t front and a 45t rear and you can have some fun.


btw my GS500 sais SUPERSPORT on the grips  which to my knowledge came stock :)     


and I can still make U-turns ;)



btw if you buy a gs and want a 45t rear I have one you can buy brand new !
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: erbilabuc on March 04, 2008, 08:11:23 PM
jesus this thread should just be locked. To properly stunt a gs500 you will spend more time and labor then its worth. There is so much dive in stock forks that you are asking for headshake as soon as you get into a proper stoppie.
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: philward on March 04, 2008, 08:18:11 PM
I don't see why it should be locked - just because you don't agree with his end use.

And it may well be true that it's all too much effort and expense, but isn't that the point of this thread - to find out information like that?  :dunno_white:

I've visited far too many forums where threadlocking occurs with daily regularity, along with the baying for blood from the regular posters - absence of this behaviour something that really attracts me to these forums.  :thumb:
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: erbilabuc on March 04, 2008, 10:26:30 PM
Quote from: philward on March 04, 2008, 08:18:11 PM
I don't see why it should be locked - just because you don't agree with his end use.

And it may well be true that it's all too much effort and expense, but isn't that the point of this thread - to find out information like that?  :dunno_white:

I've visited far too many forums where threadlocking occurs with daily regularity, along with the baying for blood from the regular posters - absence of this behaviour something that really attracts me to these forums.  :thumb:

well I didnt mean it in a real negative way. Im just saying after the money and time spent, it would just be better to go with an older honda F3 or even F2 for stunt. What does the GS really offer anyone in the stunt world besides a big challenge to make it worth it. I mean you can technically make a GS500 as fast as a stock Hayabusa (with a lot of money) but is it worth the time and money? W
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: galahs on March 05, 2008, 02:16:55 AM
Quote from: ImportBabe on March 04, 2008, 08:11:23 PM
jesus this thread should just be locked. To properly stunt a gs500 you will spend more time and labor then its worth. There is so much dive in stock forks that you are asking for headshake as soon as you get into a proper stoppie.

Why do people race Nascars when they can race F1?

To be different, budget constraints, for the challenge or my favourite answer "because they can"


Each to their own I say.  :thumb:
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on March 05, 2008, 03:33:54 AM
Quote from: ImportBabe on March 04, 2008, 10:26:30 PM
Quote from: philward on March 04, 2008, 08:18:11 PM
I don't see why it should be locked - just because you don't agree with his end use.

And it may well be true that it's all too much effort and expense, but isn't that the point of this thread - to find out information like that?  :dunno_white:

I've visited far too many forums where threadlocking occurs with daily regularity, along with the baying for blood from the regular posters - absence of this behaviour something that really attracts me to these forums.  :thumb:

well I didnt mean it in a real negative way. Im just saying after the money and time spent, it would just be better to go with an older honda F3 or even F2 for stunt. What does the GS really offer anyone in the stunt world besides a big challenge to make it worth it. I mean you can technically make a GS500 as fast as a stock Hayabusa (with a lot of money) but is it worth the time and money? W
the gs is cheap, and due to its site a bit more nimber. something im sure the "stunters" would like. now im sure theyd like more power as well, but lol aint happenin :laugh:
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: ohgood on March 05, 2008, 06:55:22 AM
this was kind of interesting. basicly destroying a decent gs for the sake of a burnout saddens me, but it's not my place to decide how folks spend their money. i'd rather see a gs get used for teaching someone the basic joys of motorcycling, throttle control, and braking technique. then on to touring, and really seeing just how fantastic a fuel efficient world motorcycling offers.

given the fantastic pictures i've seen of folks using their motorcycle to acquire breathtaking shots of beautiful vistas, it's no shock to realize the gs is a great platform for exploring. now, one user comes along and wants to explore a different avenue, and i'm changing my opinion now. go on, stunt it out if you like, use the information here, and contribute with what you find.

there are some reasons why other machines make better platforms to start with. using a road king for a trials bike would be, well, difficult, but with enough effort and saws-all work, it's possible. why not push a little and see what happens. your stunt buds might cackle about your efforts, but that just means they're not doing anything constructive while they're cackling ;)

i have no desire myself to stunt my little gs. it's too efficient and simple for me to want to muck it up. then there's the family reasons, wanting to be around and all. i'm quite amazed by the amount of control (and sometimes dumb luck) that stunters exhibit with the throttle, balance and brakes. the few i've seen have a good understanding of how things work, and do their own wrenching for obvious reasons. watching a guy change swing arms, wheels and tires in a few minutes in the back of a van is pretty neat.

post your successes and failures here. post your legal pictures, on closed courses, and you'll likely not catch much flack. post stuff of people in traffic endangering other drivers/riders, and wear your flame retardant under-roos.

well ? what's the hold up ? get on with it already !
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: Susuki_Jah on March 05, 2008, 04:13:12 PM
you could look at it this way, why do people spend money on honda's to go fast or any eco. car for that matter.   there are plenty of people that stunt the little GS . sometimes the open road is not such an enjoyment for everyone.


if you do get the GS and start your project, keep us updated
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: ben2go on March 05, 2008, 05:20:45 PM
Quote from: Susuki_Jah on March 04, 2008, 07:40:39 PM



btw my GS500 sais SUPERSPORT on the grips  which to my knowledge came stock :)     






I thought GS was short for Grand Sport.  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: enough power?
Post by: Susuki_Jah on March 05, 2008, 05:42:00 PM
Quote from: ben2go on March 05, 2008, 05:20:45 PM
Quote from: Susuki_Jah on March 04, 2008, 07:40:39 PM



btw my GS500 sais SUPERSPORT  on the grips  which to my knowledge came stock :)     







I thought GS was short for Grand Sport.  :icon_rolleyes:

I have no idea but the grips said super sport or super bike, one of the two,  on them haha