I have an 2005 F model and I really think the huge turn signals (indicators / blinkers) detract from its appearance.
Problem is I am yet to find a functional, yet good looking alternative that is easy to replace the current ones with.
I like the idea of integrating the front turn signals into the mirrors like the GSXR's, but they don't simply bolt on :(
I like the look of flush mounts, but they can't be seen easily by oncoming traffic.
Having the rear blinkers integrated into the tail light (ie. Clear Alternatives) looks great, but I again don't think its visible enough, and too many of the slim line turn signals are just not bright (noticeable to cagers) enough.
So what have you seen that looks good on a GS500F, but most importantly... is still functional and visible?
And if you've got them, pictures would be very much appreciated. :thumb:
The more I look the more my head spins.
I would prefer indicators that are 21W so my indicators flash at the correct speed.
The 2004 GSXR stockies don't look too bad, hmmmm.
the gsx-r stockers (built into the mirrors) are really bright, and in a different location than usual. i really like how high the lights are, and the fact that they're not on the same horizontal plane with the headlight. it should make them much more noticable to cars. everytime i see one blinking i think "Man thats a good idea!"
maybe you can modify the mounting hardware ? I don't have a "F" model to check out, or I'd find a way to put these on quick like.
:)
I did just recently put buell signals on my E. They're a little more modern without screaming "look at me, I'm a crotch rocket!" and are bright enough to keep me happy. My old stockers are on their way to Oregon :)
How did you overcome the fact that your Buell signals will flash faster than stock?
2ndly, check this out. A website for VFR's are making a custom mount for the GSXR integrated mirrors. Maybe that's what we need to come up with!
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=39029
Quote from: galahs on March 12, 2008, 06:37:58 AM
How did you overcome the fact that your Buell signals will flash faster than stock?
2ndly, check this out. A website for VFR's are making a custom mount for the GSXR integrated mirrors. Maybe that's what we need to come up with!
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=39029
I bought a flasher at autozone for $9. At first I liked the faster flash of the stock unit with the buells, until I actually looked in a mirror at my reflection with the hi-beam on. The flash rate ON wasn't long enough to fully illuminate the bulb. After changing to the electronic flasher, they're very bright, and properly timed.
Your link looks like a good idea. If they were running lights along with signals, it would be even safer. I wonder.....
How did you know what flasher to get?
And yeah, I've got a mate in an engineering workshop who might be able to manufacture me up a new mounting plate.
I have the CAD skills to draw it, just need a GSXR mirror assembly to see what needs doing.
i was looking at these http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=10634&gift=False&mscssid=009915355E780D426F954907AEACA09B kinda small but could look good i think they look good on this guys bike http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=39904.0
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=10634&gift=False&mscssid=009915355E780D426F954907AEACA09B
I have OEM 2004-2005 GSXR 600 rear turn signals on my bike. I don't have actual picture but it looks like that: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/28v-2004-05-GSXR-600-750-left-rear-turn-signal_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247QQcategoryZ35598QQihZ002QQitemZ120228174646QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V
^^^ these are expensive but sometimes you can get a good deal - I got mine (pair) for $15 SHIPPED, perfect condition. It was a steal though.
I've done the fenderectomy and mounted them on the remainder of the fender so they are not "crossed eyes" (not pointing downward or upward)
good luck
KaMeL
What wattage bulbs do the GSXR indicators use?
And any pics of your bike with them installed :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: flipher on March 12, 2008, 07:55:50 AM
i was looking at these http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=10634&gift=False&mscssid=009915355E780D426F954907AEACA09B kinda small but could look good i think they look good on this guys bike http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=39904.0
Mate they do look good, but they arn't terribly bright.
For looks alone :thumb: For safety :2guns:
I've got the Lockhart Phillips Short Stalk V Marker Lights , they look nice...
you saw my pics before!. fits well with the fairing
Quote from: waiho on March 12, 2008, 08:21:38 PM
I've got the Lockhart Phillips Short Stalk V Marker Lights , they look nice...
you saw my pics before!. fits well with the fairing
That's right!
Mate how bright are they when they flash in daylight?
How about this? For the ultimate clean look...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6538567-0-large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6538567.html&h=2262&w=1860&sz=598&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=Z1bgn5W74CnzWM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhuge%2Bmotorcycle%2Bturn%2Bsignals%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6538567-0-large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6538567.html&h=2262&w=1860&sz=598&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=Z1bgn5W74CnzWM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhuge%2Bmotorcycle%2Bturn%2Bsignals%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG)
Quote from: bucks1605 on March 12, 2008, 08:32:25 PM
How about this? For the ultimate clean look...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6538567-0-large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6538567.html&h=2262&w=1860&sz=598&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=Z1bgn5W74CnzWM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhuge%2Bmotorcycle%2Bturn%2Bsignals%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6538567-0-large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6538567.html&h=2262&w=1860&sz=598&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=Z1bgn5W74CnzWM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhuge%2Bmotorcycle%2Bturn%2Bsignals%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG)
SOB i just had that idea a month ago but mine included brake lights :laugh:
I have flush mounts on and they are perfectly visible and at night they light up the whole side of the bike which helps the people next to you see u want to turn and the way i mounted them i didnt drill or cut the fairing just a plastic tab that was already there :thumb:
I've also been thinking of replacing my standard indicators with the Gixxer mirror mounted ones, but I haven't been able to have a good look at the mounting etc. to see if the current mirror mounting on the GS copuld be adapted to fit the Gixxer stalks and mirrors, if that is where the problem lies. I've done up a bit of a "photoshop" type mods pic of my 2007 GS500F with the changed indicators on it just so i can see what it would look like. Also added a fenderectomy to the bike and a laminar lip screen extension.
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb3/yogi2795/Clydemods.jpg)
Nice photoshoping :thumb:
The Gixxer mirrors don't line up properly with our brackets. Rangerbob on here modified his mirrors but he did a cut and weld job which I'm not to leen on doing.
CndnMax can you post a pic or link of your flush mounts :)
Quote from: galahs on March 12, 2008, 04:07:07 PM
What wattage bulbs do the GSXR indicators use?
And any pics of your bike with them installed :icon_mrgreen:
I don't know wattage but they are bright and well visible. A bit smaller than stock GS's and have nice (sharper) shape. They blink in regular speed (neither crazy fast, nor too slow) just like stock GS I believe (not sure tho, cause my bike came with crazy small blinkers).
If I have time during the weekend and the weather is nice I'll make a video and post it on youtube. OK??
cheers
KaMeL
Quote from: galahs on March 12, 2008, 10:50:16 PM
CndnMax can you post a pic or link of your flush mounts :)
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6664/0313081937sq9.jpg)
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4886/0313081938nz2.jpg)
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5964/0313081939so8.jpg)
cadnmax do you know where you order from to get them and do you needto change anything or did they just plug in to the old spot
i have clear alternative intergated, clear, led lights on the rear and short stalk II carbon look clear LED on the front. nice and bright and looks great
Quote from: flipher on March 13, 2008, 07:51:59 PM
cadnmax do you know where you order from to get them and do you needto change anything or did they just plug in to the old spot
i got a pretty good deal off of ebay, you can find them else where on the internet but they cost a bit more.
here is the wiki link (http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500/Upgrades/FlushmountFrontTurnSignals) the steps that require no fairing cutting are on the bottom :thumb:
i dont really understand but i think i would more if i had my bike and the new sigbals in front of me thanks for the link
Cdnmax, I love how your signals look, I read the wiki, but I was wondering what signals you actually ordered. Would you be able to provide a link or more information?
Thanks :)
Quote from: kml.krk on March 13, 2008, 10:25:31 AM
Quote from: galahs on March 12, 2008, 04:07:07 PM
What wattage bulbs do the GSXR indicators use?
And any pics of your bike with them installed :icon_mrgreen:
I don't know wattage but they are bright and well visible. A bit smaller than stock GS's and have nice (sharper) shape. They blink in regular speed (neither crazy fast, nor too slow) just like stock GS I believe (not sure tho, cause my bike came with crazy small blinkers).
If I have time during the weekend and the weather is nice I'll make a video and post it on youtube. OK??
cheers
KaMeL
Mate if you can that would be great :thumb:
What wattage bulb doers the flush mounts use?
ie. did fitting them make the turn signals flash faster?
Quote from: DarkStarr on March 13, 2008, 10:01:35 PM
Cdnmax, I love how your signals look, I read the wiki, but I was wondering what signals you actually ordered. Would you be able to provide a link or more information?
Thanks :)
i think he got his on ebay is what he told me but i found some that look the same that im going to get and try to do the same way he did wish me luck i did not really understand but but think i would if i had it in front of me http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=11906&gift=False&0=assets%2Fhtml%2Fd%5Fstreet%2Easp%2CnavId%3Dd%5Fstreet%2A0%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D%2CStreet&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D827%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CStreet%20Electric&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D3392%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CLighting&3=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D2865%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D2%2CMarker%20Lights&4=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D2864%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D3%2CUniversal%20Marker%20Light%20Kits&mscssid=BD634B8DFEAD4DA7B8CC51EBB52920F9
nice, thanks for the link flipher. The wiki was a little confusing, but I agree that it's probably real easy once everything is infront of ya.
Now I'm debating on which one to order, black/amber/clear or black/clear/amber? as cool as black/smoke/clear would like, that's not gonna do anything for visibility.
Black with clear, with one of those silver coated orange globes by Philips would look good. The lens would look really clear without any hint of internal orange.
I really only like orange lens on blue bikes.
does anyone know if they have to be amber in CA i kinda want clear but if its the law they have to be abmer i will just go with if anyone konws shear
Quote from: galahs on March 13, 2008, 10:50:41 PM
What wattage bulb doers the flush mounts use?
ie. did fitting them make the turn signals flash faster?
No idea about the wattage again, but my flush mounts don't flash faster. Even tho they look good I don't like them. Barely visible for guys in front of you :nono:
Quote from: flipher on March 14, 2008, 07:57:04 AM
does anyone know if they have to be amber in CA i kinda want clear but if its the law they have to be abmer i will just go with if anyone konws shear
the light has to be amber but the lens can be any color. I'll clarify the wiki when I get. A chance.
Quote from: kml.krk on March 14, 2008, 09:00:26 AM
No idea about the wattage again, but my flush mounts don't flash faster. Even tho they look good I don't like them. Barely visible for guys in front of you :nono:
Would it be possible to get a front view pic of your bike with one of the flashers on? Just to gauge visibility?
Quote from: DarkStarr on March 14, 2008, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: kml.krk on March 14, 2008, 09:00:26 AM
No idea about the wattage again, but my flush mounts don't flash faster. Even tho they look good I don't like them. Barely visible for guys in front of you :nono:
Would it be possible to get a front view pic of your bike with one of the flashers on? Just to gauge visibility?
I got the video of front and rear turn signals as well as short moment of front view. I have to download it to the computer and post on youtube. I'll start doing that in half an hour (I have to order SIDI B2 BOOTS NOW :icon_twisted: )
Be patient - as soon as I post the video I'll let you know!
OK here is the video.
The quality was so much better before youtube messed it up...
I hope this will help you choose the turn signals wisely :thumb:
link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUv9q0RN55g
enjoy
KaMeL
PS in the end of the video is the short moment when I show the bike from the front - as you can see the turn signals are visible but if you position your bike on the intersection ready to make a turn, people in front of you WILL NOT see your front turn signal. I have to get rid of the flush mounts!!
it tells me This video is unavailable.
Thanks for that video champ! :thumb:
I agree the flush mounts just arn't visible enough from the front but the rear gsxr indicators look good :icon_mrgreen:
aye wow, I dunno.. they look nice, but it seems a bit risky. The rears look sweet though!
Quote from: DarkStarr on March 16, 2008, 08:10:38 AM
aye wow, I dunno.. they look nice, but it seems a bit risky. The rears look sweet though!
Yeah, I know, and I said I don't like them! Previous Owner installed them and he cut ugly huge holes in the fairings so for now I have to stick to them. As soon as figure out how to cover the holes I'll replace flush mounts with pair of GSXR front signals!!.
cheers
KaMeL
I really want to get my hands on some GSXR mirrors with the turn signals integrated. I'm sure there has to be a way of mounting them that doesn't require destroying the mirrors or fairing to fit them. :icon_lol:
I'm also after some GSXR 2003-2004 rear signals but they are so hard to come by on ebay for some reason. :dunno_white:
Quote from: galahs on March 16, 2008, 03:57:30 PM
I really want to get my hands on some GSXR mirrors with the turn signals integrated. I'm sure there has to be a way of mounting them that doesn't require destroying the mirrors or fairing to fit them. :icon_lol:
I'm also after some GSXR 2003-2004 rear signals but they are so hard to come by on ebay for some reason. :dunno_white:
You may want to check these out : http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-parts-list?d=1170244+1173708+2212781+2212814
These are AFTERMARKET but I hope they are good, cause I just ordered myself a pair - I'll use them as my front signals. For $ 24 shipped I can take the risk ;)
If you don't like those check ebay frequently - I saw a pair of OEM GSXR signals today in ebay stores for around 40 bucks shipped!!!!
good luck
KaMeL
I have ordered a set of OEM GSXR mirrors now, so I can finally satisfy my own curiosity.
I wonder if I can't find any GSXR mirrors because those online are un-willling to ship to Australia. If you can find any 2003-2004 GSXR turn signals on ebay please post a link here.
Mate that "clear alternative" link is just for the replacement clear lens right? Not the actual blinker unit.
Can anyone give me a hint at to what terms to search for when looking for GSXR rear turn signals?
Quote from: kml.krk on March 16, 2008, 04:11:55 PM
Quote from: galahs on March 16, 2008, 03:57:30 PM
I really want to get my hands on some GSXR mirrors with the turn signals integrated. I'm sure there has to be a way of mounting them that doesn't require destroying the mirrors or fairing to fit them. :icon_lol:
I'm also after some GSXR 2003-2004 rear signals but they are so hard to come by on ebay for some reason. :dunno_white:
You may want to check these out : http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-parts-list?d=1170244+1173708+2212781+2212814
These are AFTERMARKET but I hope they are good, cause I just ordered myself a pair - I'll use them as my front signals. For $ 24 shipped I can take the risk ;)
If you don't like those check ebay frequently - I saw a pair of OEM GSXR signals today in ebay stores for around 40 bucks shipped!!!!
good luck
KaMeL
you do know those are just the clear lenses right?
Thanks guys. I'm blind I think.... I don't know what I was thinking about... I just cancelled the order!
I'll have to look for the GSXR turn signals again.
Thanks again for pointing the mistake!
cheers
KaMeL
I found some rear 2003-2004 gsxr signals from england on ebay which I have ordered. (I searched for Suzuki signal)
So fingers crossed, that I will be able to complete my GSXR front Turn Signal mirrors and GSXR rear signal mod. I'm looking forward to the challenge. :icon_twisted:
Quote from: kml.krk on March 17, 2008, 06:14:48 PM
Thanks guys. I'm blind I think.... I don't know what I was thinking about... I just cancelled the order!
I'll have to look for the GSXR turn signals again.
Thanks again for pointing the mistake!
cheers
KaMeL
clad we told u in time to cancel the order :thumb:
Quote from: galahs on March 17, 2008, 08:11:02 PM
I found some rear 2003-2004 gsxr signals from england on ebay which I have ordered. (I searched for Suzuki signal)
So fingers crossed, that I will be able to complete my GSXR front Turn Signal mirrors and GSXR rear signal mod. I'm looking forward to the challenge. :icon_twisted:
Keep us informed! I want to know how the turn signals/mirrors combo works for you! It would indeed look good and work well!!
good luck
Kamel
Will do.
i will try and bolt them on without any mods and take some photos so we can see where the actual problem lies, that prevents them from being a straight bolt on mod.
Then with the help of the board I'm sure we can work out a solution.
Quote from: galahs on March 18, 2008, 08:12:23 PM
Will do.
i will try and bolt them on without any mods and take some photos so we can see where the actual problem lies, that prevents them from being a straight bolt on mod.
Then with the help of the board I'm sure we can work out a solution.
:thumb: great idea!
So I got my beautiful gsxr OEM mirrors.
First problem... if I used the standard hole in the fairing look at what angle these mirrors would be compared to the stockers.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/compare_mirrors.jpg)
Now the gsxr mirrors are fixed to their base. They are non adjustable at the base. They are fixed in place with a giant rivet type fastener.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/mirror_drill_rivet.jpg)
You have to use and oversized drill bit to remove the rivet to pull the mirrors from their base.
I ground my mirrors base on a grinding wheel, to try and get it to fit in the GS's stock mounting bracket. They fit, but the angle was still very wrong. They would work in this position (I can see behind me), but they look silly.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/mirror_angles.jpg)
I tried to do some more mods but I snapped the cast aluminium around the hole of the gsxr mirror where it screws onto the base :(
So my experiments came to a premature end and I am no closer to working out how to mount them.
Bugger!
oh man... this is not looking good :cry: I have no idea what you could do to make them fit. maybe some "mod master" will chime in and give you some good advise.
good luck
hope you'll figure it out!!
I just remembered... I have an old fairing from when I crashed my bike a couple of years back.
It's drilling time!!!! :thumb:
Pictures being uploaded now. But I'll pipe in first letting you know, the 2003-2005 gsxr indicators are 12V 18W, and a strange wedge type bulb.
The globe is printed with W16W (921)
Here's the Indicator
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/2004_gsxr_indicator.jpg)
Here's the Indicators screw and wire. Note its different to the stock gs500's
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/2004_gsxr_indicator_screw.jpg)
Here's the Indicator disassembled. Notice the wedge type bulb.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/2004_gsxr_indicator_bulb.jpg)
Ok, so I got out my old fairing and got measuring and drilling.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/testing_mirrors_placement.jpg)
The gsxr mirrors look good :thumb:
Now the tough bits.... 1 visibility. The mirrors sucked when I first put them on. They just didn't view wide enough.
So... I widened my holes increasing the angle that the mirrors turn outwards. Also added a washer in between where the mirror base sits on the fairing. Problem solved.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/testing_mirrors_alignment.jpg)
Note: Illustration only. But gives an idea of which way you want the base of your mirrors to line up.
Ok, here is the underside of the fairing. As you can see clearance becomes an issue.
I am using the stock screws of the gsxr mirror, but I ended up needing new nuts that were smaller to fit between the screen and fairing frame. I'll give you the exact specs after I finalise on what I'm going to use.
New problem. Mirrors mounted as tight as possible, but they still vibrate too much. To the point that they suck!!! Because its only the plastic supporting them, not into the frame.
Solutions!!!
Wedge a piece of thick rubber (I initially used wood and it worded well too) in between the screw ends and the frame. And by wedge I mean wedge. As in, it takes a huge effort to gert it in there, and just as much to take it out.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/testing_mirrors_vibration.jpg)
BINGO!!!
Functional mirrors, good visibility behind and they don't vibrate any more than stock :)
Oh and they look good.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/testing_mirrors_appeal.jpg)
I just need some more screws to do the other side. But you get the idea.
I'm so glad I had a spare fairing to practice on. If all goes well, I'll have a go on my good fairing. and work out how to make it all look sweet.
Another challenge is what to do with the stock mirror mounts. You need to put something in their to hold the fairing on. I currently am just using the stock gs500f mirror screws and a few washers, but it looks daggy. I'll work that out in time.
I'm so happy I'm actually making progress, and the best news is, no mucking around destroying the gsxr mirrors and just requires drilling 6 holes. 4 mounting holes (2 each side) and 1 hole each side for the wire to pass through. Nothing else needs to be modified. And that's a good thing!!!
:thumb: :thumb:
the gsxr mirrors use py21W bulbs, so I'm thinking of replacing them with some silver bulbs that flash amber. It will remove the egg yoke look from the indicators and make them really clear looking.
Philips have one called 'Silver Vision" and I think OSRAM Sylvania have one too called SilverStar
You can get them with free shipping from http://www.autobulbsonline.co.uk and http://www.powerbulbs.com
dude. that is looking SWEET!! I'm so happy for you (and fo myself :laugh:) as soon as I collect some money I'll get those mirrors and do the mod!!
great news!!
thanks for sharing
KaMeL
By the way: how much did you pay for the mirrors?? where?
$100 US for both including postage from ebay.
Got OEM ones that were taken straight from a bike before it was about to go racing.
Definitely get OEM if you can, The cheaper copies quality sucks.
I think I searched for
'suzuki gsxr oem mirror"
and variants on that combination :thumb:
they are not cheap obviously, but they seem to be worth the money :thumb:
I'll put them in a queue ;)
Here are some more photos.
(just remember the right hand side mirror (throttle side) is a little wonky as I had to glue it together after I botched up an attempt to make it use the standard GS500F mirror mounts.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_mirrors_fitted_1.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_mirrors_fitted_2.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_mirrors_fitted_4.jpg)
I tried to take a photo to show the mirrors have good visibility. I failed in proving it but it shows they see evenly each side with a wide field of view. Probably 80% as good as the stock GS500's which are damn near the best motor bike mirrors for visibility I have even seen!
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_mirrors_fitted_3.jpg)
As for what's required to do this mod.
A 10mm drill bit (and a smaller one to do a pilot hole helps with accuracy)
Some 10mm washers (I used 8mm and drilled them out to 10mm for less over hang) and some 10mm spring loaded washers
4 x HEX FLANGE NUTS M6 (to hold the mirrors on from under the fairing. You can add a spring loaded washer to really tighten it up if you wish)
4 x M6 x 15mm long bolts to replace the old mirror bolts to hold the fairing on (you can use the alan key bolts from your old mirror if you want)
Some 5mm thick rubber (or something similar) to pack out the space between the new mirror screws and the fairing frame to prevent vibration.
Masking tape (mask the fairing both sides before drilling it to prevent it cracking)
A marking pen (to mark the holes before you cut (remember measure twice, cut once)
Some electrical wire to extend the turn signals wire. Also some bullet clip connectors are usefull.
Patience!!!
Hey,
Thanks for going through such a great explanation on this. At first I was really wanting to do it but I'm not sure how much I like them being up that high. Do you think they would be able to go down lower and still have visability. I want a pair of mirrors that have the signals built in but the gixxer one's make them look even more like a bug's antennea!
Thanks,
Mary S
Mate you could probably mount them a little lower on the fairing, but your problem will be seeing past your arm, thanks to the GS's very high handlebars.
I fitted some 2003 gsxr indicators to the front of the bike (just used the stock gsxr backing plate on the inside of the fairing and screwed it down tight.
Doesn't look too bad. So there's another option for those considering what to do.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_indicators_fitted_1.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_indicators_fitted_2.jpg)
Next I'll be fitting these to the rear 9and hopefully there they will stay.
more pics soon.
I got myself another pair of rear 2004 GSXR turn signals, which I'll use temporarily as front turn signals. It's going to be much better than damn flush mounts which look sweet but aren't visible...
I'll try to shorten the stalks a little bit so they will be closer to the fairings.
PS. galahs you'll be glad you went with GSXR signals as your rear turn signals :thumb: trust me on that one ;)
Sure am mate they look awesome.
If I wasn't going to use the gsxr mirrors with the indicators I would have used them for the front too. They have such a bright crystal looking amber lens, they look sleek with their sharp styling and best of all, are dam well visible when operating.
I have also purchased some Clear Alternative lens' to try out on the gsxr rear indicators, but I don't think I'll end up using them. I actually really like the stock lens.
But I'll put them on and take some photos. A touch of community service to help out the GS community make up their minds. :thumb:
Comparing the stock GS500F indicators with the GSXR indicators.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_indicators_fitted_r2.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_indicators_fitted_rear.jpg)
Fitted 3/4 angle view
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_indicators_fitted_r3.jpg)
looks GOOD to me :thumb:
those fat stockers look soooo ugly in comparison to GSXR's signals ;)
Ok my Clear Alternative CTS-0027 2003-2005 GSXR clear lens arrived, thankfully with 18W orange bulbs (I got told by clear alternatives that they would ship with 5W bulbs :cookoo: )
5W bulbs just doesn't cut it IMO!!!
I was quite prepared to by some amber glass paint and paint my stock clear bulbs. But thankfully I don't have to.
Here's some pics.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_indicators_rearclear_1.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_indicators_rearclear_2.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_indicators_rearclear_3.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_indicators_rearclear_4.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_indicators_rearclear_5.jpg)
Here's the location of the holes I drilled for the GSXR mirrors with the integrated turn signals.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gs500_gsxr_mirror_holes.jpg)
As you can see, the two mounting screws require 11mm holes and a 7mm hole is needed to pass through the turn signal wiring.
great idea, btw for the OEm holes you could just a get a mirror block off plate (sv650 are identical measure as GS500 I beleive, and not have that "hex bolt" look to it.
Otherwize looks very inetresting.... well maybe when I get more cash flow.
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk77/evang101/New001-1.jpg)
I have these on my 2007 and they are very bright. The only way someone behind me wouldn't see them is if they just weren't looking.
Finished Result:
(http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7601/gsxrmirrorsok5.jpg)
I ended up putting Philips Silvervision Globes in to get rid of the orange, fried egg look.
looks great. so how do you like them after all??
do they provide good visibility??
do they vibrate?
cheers
Visibility is great but the stck gs500 mirrors are better as they stick out further. With the new mirrors you have to tuck your arms in a little to see directly behind you.
They do vibrate a touch more than the stock mirrors at freeway speeds but are still very functional in both day and night riding. The vibration isn't excessive and you can still clearly see whats behind you. It is imperative you wedge some thick rubber or wood in behind the mirrors screws and the frame to achieve a good result.
Its a great mod, but I wont lie and say they havn't slightly reduced the functionality of the mirrors compared to the GS's superb stock mirrors.
great description - thanks!
I think then, that I'll stick with stock mirrors for now, even though the gsxr mirrors look fantastic and they have turn signals built-in.
thanks again for sharing!
Kamel
Yep they do look great but yes the stockers are functionally better on this bike.
Though I don't want to give the wrong impression, these new GSXR mirrors are as good as many OEM sports mirrors on Supersports bikes. Its just that the stock GS500F mirrors are one of the functionally better mirrors out there.
This is what I did before I had my GSXR rear indicators
Fenderectomy and Relocate the Stock indicators Instructions with Pictures!
Step 1
Remove the seat and everything under it (toolkit etc) and disconnect the indicator wires.
You will need to cut the cable ties holding the wires if they are still there.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/fender_step-1.jpg)
Step 2
Remove the rear fender. Undo the:
- two screws at the rear of the fender (note the bracket that holds the tool kit elastic band will come loose)
- two 10mm bolts in the centre of the fender (they have self aligning washers)
- 1 screw at the front of the fender
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/fender_step-2.jpg)
Drop the fender down, gently pull out the Indicator wires with it.
The take the fender away to work on it.
Step 3
Remove the number plate, number plate bracket and stock rear reflector.
Unscrew the indicators (17mm spanner) from the fender.
With a hacksaw blade cut the fender straight through using the bottom of the tool box recess as a guide.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/fender_step-3.jpg)
Smooth the edge with some fine grade sandpaper.
Optional Step 4
I left some of the rear panel so if I ever want to attach the stock rear reflector I can. You don't have to.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/fender_step-4.jpg)
Step 5
Take the large washer used on the inside of the indicator assembly.
Push it into the bottom, back corner of the toolbox impression of the fender.
Drill a hole in the centre of the washer the same size as the washer opening
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/fender_step-5.jpg)
Repeat this on the other side.
Step 6
Re-attatch the Indicators into the holes you just drilled.
Use the washers. The external plastic washer has a recess so the indicator fits into it flush. Make sure you line it up.
If you use the internal washer (recommended to stiffen the fixture) the bolt wont have much thread for the nut to grab, so tighten as much as possible. I used some locktite to make sure it stays. Make sure your blinkers are oriented evenly/correctly.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/fender_step-6.jpg)
Re-attach the fender.
I recommend using 2 or 3 washers on the 2 rear screws to give some extra clearance so the indicators arn't jammed into the bike as this pushes them down making them look "droopey". Position the washers above the "tool kit elastic band bracket"
Re connect the indicators wires
Put back the tool kit etc.
Put back your seat.
Step 7
Now place your number plate on the back of your fender, mark the screw points. Hopefully like the Aussie plates they fit on the plastic, otherwise you will need to make/use a bracket.)
Drill the holes
Mount the plates using the stock screw and bolts.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/fender_step-5a.jpg)
I then went and got some small red reflectors for the rear to keep me legal and safe!
ENJOY!!!
Better aerodynamics than stock, less weight and better looks! Win win win!
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/fender_result-1.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/fender_result-2.jpg)
Lockhart Philips Flushmount
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/nascarkeith/GS500F/gs-2.jpg)
Integrated Rear Tail Light
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/pyromaniac11788/Skeetsbike.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/pyromaniac11788/SkeetsTurnSginals.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/pyromaniac11788/SkeetsTurnSignal.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/nascarkeith/GS500F/gs002-3.jpg)
(http://www.bbburma.net/MiscFotos/GStwinMembers/rclz/FlushMountSignals.jpg)
First things first...
Galahs,
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK ON THE MIRRORS!! That info is priceless!
Thanks much to kml.krk too. I wasn't sure if that style of flush mount was any better than the rest, so thanks for confirming it for me before I spent any $$!
Second,
What is the most recommended / preferred front turn signal alternative (not including the mirrors)? I've been doing a lot of reading (including a lot of reading on GSTwins.com), but I haven't really felt "sold" on any particular style. My biggest priority is practicality to make sure that oncoming traffic can still see me, short of having to stay with these gargantuan, freak of nature stalks that come OEM.
I'm open to any and all thoughts....
Mate I was the same way inclined as you.
Hated the stock indicators, but wanted flushmount lindicators that are still easy enough for cagers to see. In the end I couldn't find any I was really sold on so I went the mirror option.
But mate something like this would be more visible than some:
(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9039/ltsfmcfclr2jp9.jpg)
or this
(http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3772/p1010096to3.jpg)
(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5580/p1010097uo0.jpg)
type of design would be more visible than some of the flusher designs.
Check out ebay. There is a multitude of designs :thumb:
Hey that blue 06 gs looks familiar. :laugh:
I picked up a complete set of 2003 GSXR1000 turnsignals (front and rear) on ebay a few days ago for $50.00. I got in a major bid war with another guy but ended up beating him by 5 seconds with my final bid. Hopefully I get them in the mail this weekend. I want to shorten the stalks before mounting them. If anyone has a how-to for these signals, let me know.
Quote from: galahs on August 28, 2008, 09:33:47 PM
Lockhart Philips Flushmount
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/nascarkeith/GS500F/gs-2.jpg)
Integrated Rear Tail Light
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/pyromaniac11788/Skeetsbike.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/pyromaniac11788/SkeetsTurnSginals.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/pyromaniac11788/SkeetsTurnSignal.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/nascarkeith/GS500F/gs002-3.jpg)
I'm glad my pictures are helping this forum. My flushmounts are in california ar the moment so they will be here hopefully on Saturday. I will then update with new pics. I'm just wondering why everyone here blocks their number plate.... Is their a certain reason?
(http://www.bbburma.net/MiscFotos/GStwinMembers/rclz/FlushMountSignals.jpg)
I have just always blocked mine to keep people from getting my info. I know they can still get it but why make it easy for them.
I guess that PPL cover their plates because it's quite easy to find the bike if you have the plate number...
so this would make stealing your bike easier if someone wanted to do it :dunno_white:
It's just logical thinking, not educated statement ;)
Has anybody else put the GSXR mirrors onto their bike? I'm looking at doing this to my own and I was curious if anyone else did it and could offer up a second opinion on whether or not they liked it.
Hey all, I just put the katana mirrors on (and they look sweet!), but now i have the holes in the fairing. Where can I go to get some plugs for the holes, any advice? Thanks!
Also, with the Katana mirrors, you can just reuse the current mounting points and all you have to do is drill a hole in the fairing for the wiring to go through. EXTREMELY easy and fast. I'll try and put up some pictures soon.
A cheap way to cover the holes would be to get a decal and cover it.
Yeah I was going to put some flush mount led blinkers there as well to cover the hole but it didn't work too well. (They weren't very flush with the fairing)
So now I'm thinking of cutting some reflective sticker (probably black) to cover it. When I do, I'll post some pics.
Quote from: morale30 on September 08, 2008, 01:19:35 PM
Hey all, I just put the katana mirrors on (and they look sweet!), but now i have the holes in the fairing. Where can I go to get some plugs for the holes, any advice? Thanks!
Also, with the Katana mirrors, you can just reuse the current mounting points and all you have to do is drill a hole in the fairing for the wiring to go through. EXTREMELY easy and fast. I'll try and put up some pictures soon.
you could use fiberglass, patch the hole, then sand a little, and then touch up with the appropriate color. :thumb:
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I picked up this full set of stock GSX-R 1000 turn signals off a 2003 for $50. I really like the way they looked and the fact that they are OEM DOT approved signals gave me piece of mind that I would be seen when I need to turn. Once I got them and test fitted one. I decided very quickly that I wanted to shorten the stock stalks to pull them in as close to the body as possible. After some planing, drilling, cutting, dremeling and a trip to the hardware store, this was the outcome. I am very satisfied with the looks of them compared to the stock GS signals. They seem to fit the lines of the bike so much better than those big "bug eye" looking blinkers. I think the stalks also look like they are actually meant to be this way. I did notice they flash slightly faster than the originals but it is barely noticable...nothing like the super fast flashing when a bulb is burned out. Anyway, just thought I'd share. Let me know what you think!
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb275/blackpearlV6/Suzuki001.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb275/blackpearlV6/Suzuki008.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb275/blackpearlV6/Suzuki003.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb275/blackpearlV6/Suzuki004.jpg)
can you please describe how you shortened the stalks. I got a pair of those signals laying in my garage waiting to be mounted on my bike ;) but I don't like the long stalks either, so I'd appreciate any help of yours!
thanks in advance
KaMeL
Quote from: kml.krk on September 13, 2008, 10:19:39 AM
can you please describe how you shortened the stalks. I got a pair of those signals laying in my garage waiting to be mounted on my bike ;) but I don't like the long stalks either, so I'd appreciate any help of yours!
thanks in advance
KaMeL
In order to shorten them, I disassembled the turnsignal and removed the original stock. From there I cut the stock just behind the first ridge with a hack saw. Then, I took a dremmel with a sanding grinder to smooth out the messy cut. After that, use a small drill bit to drill a hole straight through the stock. Step up 2 more drill bit sizes to make the hole larger. Buy #10 machine screws 1.5-2.0 inches long with washers, lock washer and nut. You want to make sure the holes you drilled are slightly smaller than the screws...this allows you to actually screw it in the hole it will keep the bold tight and unable to rotate as you tighten the nut when mounting. Once you screw the bold all the way through the stock, reassemble the signal. I had to slighly modify the original black plastic washer piece for the fronts to make some room for the screw and wires to pass through the small hole. Once mounted, I used the original wires and connected them with crimp "butt" connectors. That's it. Good luck!!
thanks mate! I appreciate!
sorry double post :mad:
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New member from Aus....Today!!!! :icon_mrgreen:
How ya doin. Well ive been reading through your posts re this turn signal mirror thing and i think its a great idea.
some food for thought.. i found this - remote turn signal indicators ( for car mirrors ) to make em look like the fancier BMWs and MERCs
http://www.gadgetgrid.com/?attachment_id=2056
http://www.uberreview.com/
Wireless.....yes Wireless just stick them on ,maybe they could be re hashed , loose the mirror section and keep the flashing light part sand fit to the fronts of the standard GS mirrors with some modding. Kinda dear but what are you paying for OMEO mirrors to try to do the job.
Might be useful for mounting other places aswell.
just a thought.. :dunno_white:
Sorry guys i tried those links that i put up and they dont seem to link back to the lights.
I think its my lack of computer knowledge.
to find the info originally i just did a search for wireless remote indicator
www.gadgetgrid.com/2007/09/07/wireless-turn-indicator-mirror/ - 40k -
this is where i found it.
and this
www.uberreview.com/2007/09/wireless-turn-indicator-mirror.htm - 30k -
Hi all, I thought that those of you who might use rear throw over panners might be interested in this mod I have produced for my GS. I found that the panniers rubbed on the rear of the rear indicators and so constructed some extension brackets for them, so as to relocate the indicators about 4 to 5 inches rearwards. here's a link to my blog where the process is explained, together with pics :) Please feel free to use and abuse the design if need be :thumb:
http://yogi2795.blogspot.com/2008/11/fitting-rear-indicator-extensions-to.html (http://yogi2795.blogspot.com/2008/11/fitting-rear-indicator-extensions-to.html)
Quote from: galahs on March 27, 2008, 08:52:28 PM
I fitted some 2003 gsxr indicators to the front of the bike (just used the stock gsxr backing plate on the inside of the fairing and screwed it down tight.
Doesn't look too bad. So there's another option for those considering what to do.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_indicators_fitted_1.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_indicators_fitted_2.jpg)
Next I'll be fitting these to the rear 9and hopefully there they will stay.
more pics soon.
galas - thanks very mcuh for this, maybe you could start a new thread (or the wiki ?) with your posts and pictures ? forgive me if you have already and i didn't notice it. this is very nice information. :)
Okay I got my turnsignals in hand but I'm a bit confused! These mirrors are heavy. So you just took the mounting plate and screwed it on. If that is the case how well are they holding up? It seems after awhile it is going to break the fairing. Anyway to see what the back looks like?
Only other alternative we were thinking of was creating an extending block and doing it that way so there is no pressure except for where the mounting bracket already is in place and it spaces them out further a wee bit!
Help please!
Mary
Yep that is a real concern.
You have to make sure you put some decent sized washers on the under side to spread the load. I fitted big washer but had to grind a few to get them to fit.
I do fear if someone bumps the mirrors hard enough or "touch wood" the bike drops, the fairing will most likely crack.
As for trying to fit them to the stock location, I tried that first and sacrificed two mirrors with no success. The angle of the gixxer mirrors arms made them all but useless.
As for where I located the mirrors, I really didn't measure them. I got someone to position them in a place whilst I sat on the bike to make sure I had good rear vision. We then marked the masking tape with a pencil, and worked out where to drill from there.
Now that I have ridden over 7,000kms with these mirrors do I think they are worth it?
They look better, they give better turn signal visibility and better aerodynamics as it lets you remove your other turn signals, but functionally they are not as good as the stockers. They vibrate a little more than the stockers, and you have to move your arm a little to get more of a view behind you.
To be honest now that I've got myself a Gixxer 1000, I actually wonder why I bothered with the modification.
Quote from: flipher on March 12, 2008, 07:58:22 AM
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=10634&gift=False&mscssid=009915355E780D426F954907AEACA09B
these are what i use.. down side is they are sealed so if one goes out (like mine just did) you have to replace the pair. no bulb changing
I also used the gsxr signals for the front and rear. Bought them off another gstwins member, with stalks already short. Great fit.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3386/3511506019_85bf12ccef.jpg)
Anybody else do the Mirrors beside Galahas? I have the LED turn signals but was thinking of doing the integrated mirrors then put some flushmount turn signals on the front!
Would cover up the holes and have visible signals on the mirrors. I think we are going to make some nice stiff base plates to fit underneath and provide some extra support.
Will do a detailed write-up I promise!
Mary
Sucess they are mounted up YAY! Made two plate brackets in the back that support really well. Next step is to wire in the blinkers.
Here are my three questions though.
1) For those of you that did it. Did the two nuts hit the windshield by like not even a cm?
2) Will the SV mirror blockouts work on the GS500F? All the extra support I can get will help!
3) Can I splice these into the turn signals that I have already installed. I wanted to replace the current ones with flushmounts so I can have both.
Mary
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on December 01, 2009, 07:46:14 PM
3) Can I splice these into the turn signals that I have already installed. I wanted to replace the current ones with flushmounts so I can have both.
I believe you can splice them in but the extra power draw could change the speed the indicators blink/flash, your best option to reduce this is to use some LED flushmounts because the amount of power they use is very small... (of course when it comes to me talking about anything electrical you should run and hide)
Quote from: flipher on March 12, 2008, 07:58:22 AM
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=10634&gift=False&mscssid=009915355E780D426F954907AEACA09B
had these.. small and hard to see during the day.. worked great at night.. down side.. they are sealed.. if one goes out, you have to replace the set. mine lasted a season
This is what I already have on the rear (http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/Motorcycle/P1000220.jpg)
I also at current moment have LEDs all around. So was thinking of doing the flush mount on the front sides mainly to fill up the holes and be as safe as possible!
Mary
I don't think you will have any problems just splicing the mirror signals in with the flushmounts. LEDs don't draw too much. All together you won't be drawing as much as standard incandescent bulbs.
Quote from: Toogoofy317 on December 01, 2009, 07:46:14 PM
Sucess they are mounted up YAY! Made two plate brackets in the back that support really well. Next step is to wire in the blinkers.
Here are my three questions though.
1) For those of you that did it. Did the two nuts hit the windshield by like not even a cm?
2) Will the SV mirror blockouts work on the GS500F? All the extra support I can get will help!
3) Can I splice these into the turn signals that I have already installed. I wanted to replace the current ones with flushmounts so I can have both.
Mary
Pics please!!!
I didn't have any problem with it hitting my screen, but I have an aftermarket zero gravity screen so the clearances might be different with the stocker
okay here is a pic about one of the nuts in question!(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/P1010267.jpg)
Here is where I'm at so far!
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/P1010265.jpg)
Here is what is behind the mirrors well sort of I had to file them down to exact sizing. Whew! was a lot of hand work LOL
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/Motorcycle/P1010243.jpg)
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/Motorcycle/P1010244.jpg)
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/Motorcycle/P1010245.jpg)
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/Motorcycle/P1010248.jpg)
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/Toogoofy317/Motorcycle/P1010249.jpg)
Mary
I did not had those problem and my mirror don't have this angle :dunno_white:
What I did is: I put some painting paper where I was about to drill. I still had the stock mirror on. I put the GSXR mirror parrallel to the base of the stocke mirror (it would even touch the stock base mirror). Then I pressed hard so it let a print on the painting paper so I knew where I had to drill. That way you have the same angle and the same hole on both side :thumb:
Quote from: gsf500RR on December 03, 2009, 04:24:21 PM
I did not had those problem and my mirror don't have this angle :dunno_white:
What I did is: I put some painting paper where I was about to drill. I still had the stock mirror on. I put the GSXR mirror parrallel to the base of the stocke mirror (it would even touch the stock base mirror). Then I pressed hard so it let a print on the painting paper so I knew where I had to drill. That way you have the same angle and the same hole on both side :thumb:
can you share any pics of your ride with those mirrors mounted?
Unfortunately I don't have the fairing at the moment because I'm doing a new paint job.
However I think it looks more like this:
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/gsxr_mirrors_fitted_2.jpg)
I probably should measure more exactly the location of where I mounted my mirrors because mine seem to be on the perfect angle.
Hows your rear vision in those mirrors Toogoofy?
I'd say my rear vision is about 90% of stock and I'm thinking if I got some clip-ons I could get it to about 95%. I also only get vibrations (slight) at around 7500 RPM. I don't have to really tuck my arm in either. I experimented with that measurement earlier gsf500rr earlier and with that placement (friend holding mirror at that spot) I was not satisfied with the visibility. That and I would not have been able to place a proper supporting plate underneath.
I did do the masking tape for measuring also ( it also helps keep from cracking the fairing while drilling I've been told). I used a flexible measuring tape to make sure they are exact. TBH with the nuts the way they are it seems like they are actually assisting with keeping the vibrations down!
Would love one of those hero helmet cams so I could show you guys what the perception of the mirrors are for the rider. but, I'm way to poor for that stuff!
Either Monday or Tuesday I will be starting the electrical part. Have a ton of work the next two days that and well the rain ain't helping!
Mary
Galah can you do a close up of the mounting bracket so I can get an idea of how far back mine is from yours? From looking at it it seems like the nut would have been even more obtrusive with your set up than mine :dunno_white:
Also GSF500R how are the vibs and visual on yours?
Mary
Without pulling off my shroud again here are the two photos I have of the area.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/testing_mirrors_clearance.jpg)
The bolts nuts rest up almost on the frame
Even though not present in this picture. I made a backing plate from a piece of aluminium like you did which I put under the washers.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k248/galahs/gs500f/testing_mirrors_vibration.jpg)
so to reduce vibration I wedged some rubber in between the frame and the mirrors nuts.
Yay! I finally got the wiring done. I've been quite sick as of late and it just wasn't on the top of the priority list. As of now I haven't done the flush mounts but I covered up the side holes. What is really nice is if you sodder the wires from the GS they will fit in the connectors of the GSXR mirrors so I didn't have to cut them. Doubt that it matters but I don't like messing things up when I don't have too.
The turn indicators are so much brighter than my small LEDs I think these are a much safer bet and are DOT approved which no LED light is. Usually, not a big deal but get one crankly FHP and they can make a bad day for you. I.E a not properly mounted tag will cost $962 for the first offense. Don't know about you but I ain't got that kinda money laying around.
Good Mod IMHO!
Mary
the mirrors look great, i still have a set in my garage that i have to mount up to my GS as well.
Get rid of the stock mirrors, forget the ugly GSXR mirrors that don't fit properly anyway, AND eliminate your rear signal lights all in one go.
http://www.oberon-performance.co.uk/acatalog/LED-Indicator-Bar-End-Weights.html
Me personally there are very few things that I agree that stock looks better. But from looking at this post I choose stock over ever other option I have seen.
I love to personaloze things but cool looks cool. I will never sacrafice different from cool!
^^^^ 2 up ^^^^
100 British Pounds for that ,excuse me, crap?? It's ridiculous. And ugly.
just my .02
Would like to revive this topic for some guidance. Looking to install the integrated GSXR mirror's on my 2009 GS500F. I've read a lot about it through this thread, but am still a bit confused as to what i really need to do to get them working. Any help is greatly appreciated.