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Title: almost over the bars
Post by: Mat on August 22, 2003, 03:58:29 AM
a few days ago i decided to try out a new stunt on the gs.   a "christ" as it is called.   well i forgot to set the idle to something like 4 to 5 grand.  so umm.... well i got both feet on the tank and forgot that i had my hand on the throttle and let go and OMG almost over the bars! but nothing happened i was quick to dismount from the tank but my right heel landed on my rear brake.  close one but everyting is cool.  just a learning experience, and what a rush :mrgreen:


before you call me wreckless..



just remember the gs is a stunter at heart :bs:
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: JamesG on August 22, 2003, 05:17:33 AM
(http://www.sport-touring.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/squid.gif)
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: zoltan on August 22, 2003, 08:05:01 AM
find some way to lock your throttle. i've heard of people using big-ass o-rings that they roll unto the barend weight, and when they want to lock the throttle they roll it onto the crack between the grip and the weight, then just roll it off when they're done. just please make sure you're not doing this in the street. not that i condon stunting...
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: knut's96gs500 on August 22, 2003, 10:48:31 AM
:o  :nono:  :o  :nono:  :x
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: Mat on August 22, 2003, 03:08:29 PM
Quote from: JamesG


i just got different goals for my riding than some others.
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: Splash on August 22, 2003, 04:18:20 PM
I've heard that "chicken RINGS" (excuse the language) work perfectly
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: bbanjo on August 22, 2003, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: SplashI've heard that "chicken RINGS" (excuse the language) work perfectly

A good medical plan, or life insurance if you have a family, would probably help too.


Of course it violates rule number two that I, and other people who realize our mortality, ride by...

Don't f<>k around.

Heh, that's funny James.
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: Baker on August 22, 2003, 05:33:41 PM
Quote from: Mat
Quote from: JamesG


i just got different goals for my riding than some others.

Like dying?
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: Zarathustra on August 22, 2003, 05:47:13 PM
why the need to get down on a guy for stunting?  as long as he doesn't do it on the street, and he doesn't do it recklessly, who cares?  it's just any other activity, that while dangerous, doesn't effect you at all.  do you yell at people who sky dive, bungee jump, free climb, or even ski?  just because you use a motorcycle to commute, or for "spirited riding" doesn't mean that that is all it should and could be used for.  let the man persue his passions and get off his back.  just because he enjoys stunting doesn't mean he is a squid or has a death wish, he just gets his adreniline kick and rush in a different way then you.
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: JohnNS on August 22, 2003, 07:48:08 PM
Any kind of riding is good riding...in the right context.  :)

If it was done under somewhat controlled circumstances, and not on mainstreet, more power to him I say. If it WAS on mainstreet (so to speak), then the term squid certainly would be a fair one.

I'd love to learn how to do all that stuff, but I don't have a bike to trash, and my self-preservation instincts are getting too strong....damn aging!  :P

Riding around the city is probably inherently more dangerous than practicing "stunts" in a controlled environment....at least I think it would be since it seems people try to kill me on a semi-daily basis.  :guns:  So, since we're doing what we're doing and not driving around in massive SUV's, it's a bit silly to condemn somebody for stunting cuz it's unsafe. Pot and kettle thing...you know..   :)

Glad you didn't crash Mat, good luck mastering that one, and stay safe.  :thumb:

There's a time and place for everything...except Celine Dion   :cheers:

John
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: Blueknyt on August 22, 2003, 08:33:50 PM
the Rolling Burnouts are alittle rough as my front brake is alittle touchy, i was getting the Rolling Endos down pretty good, getting 15' on average, would be alot easyer with dual disc and thicker forks, wouldnt flex so much.  havent been able to practice in awhile as the GS has been my main transpo latly ,havnt been wanting to roast the tire, or beat on the forks. If i can get my yamaha rolling agian (crossing fingers) or get another GS frame and all the parts mounted, then maybe i can start playing again,  like mounting an nice 50 tooth rear sprocket from those 4th gear rollup wheelies, but then agian, having a 40mph top end would suck
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: Mat on August 22, 2003, 11:30:01 PM
Quote from: bbanjo

Of course it violates rule number two that I, and other people who realize our mortality, ride by...

Don't f<>k around.



so your afraid to push your limits.

whats the difference between me wanting to stand on my bike and you or anyone else wanting to enter that corner just a little bit faster.

either way its a risk.


Quote from: Baker
Quote from: Mat
Quote from: JamesG

i just got different goals for my riding than some others.

Like dying?


thanks for the praise :nana:

some of you guys are just too small minded.  all you see that you can do on a motorcycle is commute from place to place or, race.  there is more out there and i am sorry you can't see it.

thanks for your support Jabba, Blueknyt, JohnNS, and Zarathustra  :cheers:
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: brandiwine on August 23, 2003, 12:08:16 AM
i say go for it mat!   :thumb:  there would be no X Games without guys like him.  the crazy things they are pulling these days on all kinds of wheels is mind boggling.  

cheers!
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: Flash on August 23, 2003, 01:02:55 AM
Check out this website for your video pleasure: http://www.sportbikehype.com/
I figure since they are a bunch of local boys in the DFW area I would give them props.

1. Click "Video Teaser" on the right hand side of to get an in depth look into trick riding.
2. You can also click "SBH Videos" on the left hand side for more streaming videos of trick riding.

I think its pretty cool, but some of the things they do are not in a safe environement (i.e. six bikers poppin wheelies on the highway at the same time!). In fact, I would not mind learning some of the more "sane" tricks like a rolling burnout or a stoppie.

As long as it is in a controlled environment or not around pedestrians I'm ok with it. Have some common sense though and wear a helmet and some leathers!

Flash
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: bbanjo on August 23, 2003, 03:39:51 PM
Just busting your stones dude. Just don't knock yourself off learning to have fun. To me, fun is riding. For you it might be riding closer to the edge than for me.

Be careful though!
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: sleeper on August 23, 2003, 11:49:42 PM
I would second James with the 'Squid' comment, but I don't see the icon.
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: Pkaaso on August 24, 2003, 05:20:33 AM
Mat,

Where have you been practicing these stunts?  Tell me it's on a closed course, with a walked and groomed road with plenty of run-off.  And personnel trained to help in case of emergency.

Sad to hear about your recent date with the Asphalt.  :cry:

Paul
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: V8Pinto on August 24, 2003, 07:39:13 AM
Quote from: Blueknyti was getting the Rolling Endos down pretty good, getting 15' on average

What's your technique?  I haven't been able to do a rolling endo.  I can *almost* do it stopped but I don't think I've got the process down...

I go like this:
bout' 15mph
get the weight forward so the front tire sticks
ease into the brakes until the springs compress
then pull up with my feet and give more brake.

It isn't really working for me....  I can do it on a bmx bike no problem but the motorcycle has me stumped.
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: JamesG on August 24, 2003, 08:36:53 AM
You have to be a bit more forceful with the brake initially to get the bikes momentum to rotate the rear of the bike off the ground. Then you feather the front to keep it balanced.

My comment about "stunting" is because it doesn't require all that much skill, just alot of practice (and broken parts) and has very little practical application to RIDING a motorcycle very well.  Once you know how to do it yourself, watching someone pull stoppies and wheelies is kinda boring, unless you are just hanging around hoping to see them crash. ;)

If you want to use your GS to practice dumb-bike-tricks go fer it. Just don't expect those of us who know better to be your cheering section...
:lol:
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: StanFry on August 24, 2003, 11:51:14 AM
The problem with guys fulling around like that is the cost to my insurance.  Up here we have gov. controlled auto insurance and they just pool the motorcycles into one category.  So when someone wants to "test their limits" my insurance goes up. About 20% this year.  Now my GS500 is cheap to insure, but anything larger (cc wise) goes through the roof.

Sorry if I can't give the guy a "rah rah" for his attempt to test his mortality.

Stan
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: Mat on August 24, 2003, 05:37:51 PM
Quote from: JamesGMy comment about "stunting" is because it doesn't require all that much skill, just alot of practice (and broken parts)

i could say the same thing about racing.  all you do is practice corner entry speed.

but then again i don't race so i don't really know, and you don't stunt more than (i guess) stoppies or wheelies, so you don't really know.

i push the limits of balence and racers push the limits of traction.
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: sleeper on August 24, 2003, 06:55:11 PM
Yeah, you are completely right.  Good luck on whatever you decided to do on your GS.
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: on August 24, 2003, 06:57:54 PM
he decided to crash it going in a straight line
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: Zarathustra on August 24, 2003, 07:47:41 PM
no need to be an ass keyzer.
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: on August 24, 2003, 08:00:59 PM
Not being an ass.... just telling it like it is  :o
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: Zarathustra on August 24, 2003, 08:08:34 PM
strange, so was i.  there was no reason to "tell it like it is" at this point in this thread.  you might disagree with how he rides, but the man got hurt, and i don't think ripping on him is the right thing to be doing.
Title: almost over the bars
Post by: on August 24, 2003, 08:22:41 PM
Im sorry to rub you up the wrong way for the second time...

Stay Safe  :thumb: