OK Rant follows ... huge rant ...
OK for a month I been trying to buy bungee cord by the foot.
Problem is ... not available ... anywhere.
I know we're not capable of manufacturing anything, but are we now forgetting how to sell anything too.
Pathetic.
Some genius CEO is going ... Hey, the job of selling to the dummies who walk int the door ... yea I'll outsource that to china as well.
OH yea, let me outsource the job of "the worlds richest guy" to a mexican, buy crapola from china and heck not even buy and resell here, I'll just let the chineese guys sell it to my local customers.
WTF.
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Buddha.
Tried Here?
http://www.bungeeco.com/ (http://www.bungeeco.com/)
20 buck minimum ... I dont mind that, except they got nothing else I needed ... anyway I flea-bayed it, and its comming from hongkong or seattle or where ever ...
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thats the unfortunate part , is we as north americans can't manufacture for our-selves anymore :2guns: give everything for china now , what happens if china shuts down , we are f*cked :flipoff:
Quote from: ajaxgs on April 30, 2008, 10:58:25 AM
thats the unfortunate part , is we as north americans can't manufacture for our-selves anymore :2guns: give everything for china now , what happens if china shuts down , we are f*cked :flipoff:
na, we're ok. mexico is making allot of our junk now. oh, i meant 'fine quality manufactured goods and services', not junk. sorry.
there is nothing wrong with NAFTA, just look at the value of the dollar. it still buys 1/3rd of a gallon of gas, 1/2 a loaf of bread, 1/5th a gallon of milk... oh wait, those aren't good things to compare... ok, look at these cheap plastic shits from wal-mart ! wow what a bargain !
We will just plunge china into a recession when the dollar tanks (thanks to Bill Bernanke and the inkjets - BTW why is the government hiding the money supply figure ???) ... then chineese crap will start to go up in $$$ cos they will have to de index the yuan from the dollar and that should serve as the first sign to start the manufacturing and other real work cranking again. You know, in the late 80's we were going to be eaten alive by japan ... see where that went ...
Honestly ... the last 3-4-5 years has been a fake economy entirely revolving around building houses that no one wants ... 6 million for rent, 3 million vacant and that's not even counting the ones that are off the books ...
Seriously I want to see the US making things again ... some US made stuff is so far above the chineese crap, its not even funny.
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Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on April 30, 2008, 11:06:41 AM
We will just plunge china into a recession :cheers: :bowdown: ... some US made stuff is so far above the chineese crap, its not even funny. :bs:
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hey i know , i sell auto parts , shite rotors from china 15.00, and good actualy made in north america rotors 50-80 bucks , like wtf but you only replace the rotors once with the good ones .......as for NAFTA i would love to see them open it again :thumb:
unfortunately i partailly blame this not only on the dollar, but the unions as well. look at a business. theyre in it to make money. china does it f%$king cheap, unfortunately, often cheap quality as well :mad:
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on April 30, 2008, 12:20:47 PM
often cheap quality as well :mad:
thats the f@cking understatment of the year :bs:
Its all part of China's plan for world domination, you see what they intend to do is strike a deal with your government, and all the business' over there and say we will make all your shaZam! for cheap. Next thing you know your Marine's M16 assault rifle will say 'Made in China' on the bottom. Then when china come to declaring war and invading your country they will just ship you the plastic toy versions and you will be fooked lol.
On a side note i wonder if Rover and MG cars now have Made in China underneath like Matchbox and HotWheels cars do!
For the second and most widely distributed prodiction run of M16s during the Vietnam era, the hand guards, butt-stock, and pistol grips were made in Hong Kong by Mattel. And oh yeah, China SUX :mad: I work in electronics manufacturing with production facilities in Penang, Shanghai, Bejing, etc...I've HAD to go there three times in two years and have never been seen such inefficiency, inadequacy, and wasted prodiction potential. They have the manpower, they have been GIVEN the machinery, technology and training with other countries footing the bill, and still produce such crap. I've spent painstaking months training f@cking subnoid communists over and over again to do the most basic tasks. The same training in Mexico and Brazil took a mere matter of days, in Ho Chi Min city (Saigon) in took less than two weeks.
Maybe communism creates learning disabilities?
Quote from: 451 F on April 30, 2008, 08:41:30 PM
Maybe communism creates learning disabilities?
:laugh:
china is like america was 100 or so years ago when it comes to labour and labour laws. like taiwan and hong kong, china's standard of living will rise and thus so will costs. eventually the whole thing will collapse. the dollar is going into the shitter and that will only speed up this process
They're making like 25% ?? of our medicines, just look at the Heparin scandal, after the lead paint on toys and melamine in pet food, probably human food too, and oh yeah, something like ethylene glycol in cough syrup and toothpaste, some kind of poison in dumplings sent to Japan, they're killing people off left and right all around the world, (on purpose IMO) and when they kill everyone off and have attained world dominion, who are they going to counterfeit from? :o
Oh and brake rotors that warp immediately and wheel bolts that you can use only once because they strip out if you back them out. :cookoo:
indeed :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Somehow India is flying under the radar. They are capable of making some good stuff and while it may be more than china, its not crap, in fact a lot of it is better than what you get in the US. BTW, if you have ever stood on a manhole cover, you have more than likely left your life in the hands of some Injun in some foundry somewhere.
BTW I have bought non stick utensils in india 15 years ago, that still fell like they are new ... unbelievable. Our duration for how long somehting should last ... easy, a life time. we have things that used to belong to my wife's great grand mother. We have and actively drive cars made in the 60's ... maybe now they have gone to cheap plastic crap ... but even 10 years ago, it was built to last.
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Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on May 01, 2008, 07:54:47 AM
Somehow India is flying under the radar. They are capable of making some good stuff and while it may be more than china, its not crap, in fact a lot of it is better than what you get in the US. BTW, if you have ever stood on a manhole cover, you have more than likely left your life in the hands of some Injun in some foundry somewhere.
BTW I have bought non stick utensils in india 15 years ago, that still fell like they are new ... unbelievable. Our duration for how long somehting should last ... easy, a life time. we have things that used to belong to my wife's great grand mother. We have and actively drive cars made in the 60's ... maybe now they have gone to cheap plastic crap ... but even 10 years ago, it was built to last.
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Buddha.
but i don't mind buying goods labled india or packastan , the textiles are very good quality!!!
Pakisthan is also pretty damn good. Except they have so much fewer things they make in large quantity.
BTW the ultimate thing from India ... granite. Also leather as well as several other things are excellent. Back in the early 90's I knew people who could cut open shocks and rebuild them Amazing.
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we have a company who buy car/truck rads from us to copy and manufature :laugh:
Quote from: 451 F on April 30, 2008, 08:41:30 PM
in Ho Chi Min city (Saigon) in took less than two weeks.
Maybe communism creates learning disabilities?
too an extent. Viet Nam is still a communist state.
What it comes down to is the psychy of the people/person on whether they want to advance themselve.
Quote from: seamax on May 01, 2008, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: 451 F on April 30, 2008, 08:41:30 PM
in Ho Chi Min city (Saigon) in took less than two weeks.
Maybe communism creates learning disabilities?
too an extent. Viet Nam is still a communist state.
What it comes down to is the psychy of the people/person on whether they want to advance themselve.
Very true, but Nam's communism is a different flavor. But at least they're no longer French.
thats the unfortunate part , is we as north americans can't manufacture for our-selves anymore 2guns give everything for china now , what happens if china shuts down , we are f*cked flipoff
that quote is true. so i guess we better keep our traps shut about the olympics and pollution and tibet and all that fun political stuff so china doesn't get pissed off at us and returns to 2500 yrs of isolation. but hey, at least WE aren't polluting the good ol USA, let some other poor bastards destroy their environment so we can have all the glitzy plastic and cheap things to wear. sigh. I can't WAIt to go back to china!
Quote from: Jughead on April 30, 2008, 10:18:41 AM
Tried Here?
http://www.bungeeco.com/ (http://www.bungeeco.com/)
And dude ... its still mail order. Unless bungeeco was in your town ... :laugh: ...
I dont have a problem with mail order either, but see, its not like bungee cord isn't available at all. Its only available in the boutique packaging with all the hooks and fittings on it. Not in loose length, lest people do some actual work ... gwaaaaaa ... worse ... northern tool and harbor freight are also selling the same thing. Soon we will never be able to do squat ... its gotta be done and given to us ... and then someone else has to come and fit it on for us. Soon enough we'll have people saying, I'll just stand here, and my wife can stand there, and some people will move us into position and make us have sex, then we'll be very happy.
I am also damn sick of people becoming stupid. Some dumbass thought acetone is an acid, another moron said "muriatic acid is not to be spilt into the environment" and worse, he worked at home depot ... WTF, its sold as a concrete cleaner at home depot ... you're like supposed to I dunno, environmentally isolate and then clean your driveway. People are getting stupid I tells you.
In any case, ebay hopefully will work and I'll have my bungee cord.
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Muriatic acid?? Lengths of bungee cord??? Does anyone else smell the foundry of an incredibly stupid prank??
Sounds like the Buddha is doing some freelance work for the ACME coroporation. lol :icon_lol:
Oh F^&K ... yes I can see how it can be misconstrued ... but the 2 were for 2-3 different projects.
See I have these boots, the lace up ankle highs, and they are either faaaaaaaar too tight if I tie them, or the laces keep getting unhooked from their top 3 hooks. I wanted to swap the laces for bungee cords so I can leave it permanently knotted, and it will have enough preload on the hook part to stay knotted. OK OK I could have smashed the hooks into gripping my laced better ... but lets face it ... the laces are sorta perishable, the shoe is more important.
BTW I was just on the phone with the chemist of POR 15, and I should tell you, they are morons. The simple Q I asked was was ... will the Zinc phosphate your prep thing metal ready drops on rusty steel stand heat of 400 F for 20 mins ... they were like ... duh ... why you want to do that. I said to powdercoat ... they said ... no you're supposed to coat with POR 15 ... I said, outside the tank ??? they said ... OH, you can paint the outside, I said, nope, I want to powdercoat ... they said we dunno ... duh ...
Look at the beautiful logic here ... POR 15 will stand to 650 F. The underlying coating burns by 400 or no one knows when it burns ... so why make the POR15 to stand to 650 F ... yes mission accomplished, there is no freaking way the POR15 is doing you any good. Anyway I figured out a way around the problem, just that for figuring out on my own, I dunno what they are doing. I swear, the idiots are multiplying.
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Quote from: Kasumi on May 02, 2008, 09:35:20 AM
Sounds like the Buddha is doing some freelance work for the ACME coroporation. lol :icon_lol:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Off Topic..
Buddha, you do powder coating also? I have some rims I would like to powdercoat but noting local here provides that service.
Quote from: seamax on May 02, 2008, 11:52:53 AM
Off Topic..
Buddha, you do powder coating also? I have some rims I would like to powdercoat but noting local here provides that service.
Buy a kit and do it yourself! :icon_mrgreen:
http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=5572&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=459&iSubCat=460&iProductID=5572 (http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=5572&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=459&iSubCat=460&iProductID=5572)
http://www.nationaltbucketalliance.com/tech_info/Generalinformation/Pcoating/index.asp (http://www.nationaltbucketalliance.com/tech_info/Generalinformation/Pcoating/index.asp)
Seamax - I dont powdercoat myself. I have this place that does it. He's done stuff for me for years. Very very very good and very reasonable. 150-200 for a GS frame, and $75-100 for a gas tank (depends on what color and what else you doing on top of it ... like glitter in the clear coat (done it) or silver under candy blue - done plenty of that ... or 1 solid color. The thing is, he cannot adhere to a time ... he may say 1 week, and it may not have even been touched a week later ... but he is great.
Wheels, I'll have to knock the bearings out and you'd have to (or I can) put in new bearings after coating cos those get killed in powder, and the grease will melt and run and ruin everything, so we gotta get it out.
Berto - Yea home powdercoating kits are in harbour freight. They never do as well as the industrial shops, and best of all, he'll sand blast it so beautifully ... you can eat off it. Then the powder is just perfect.
Anyway, seamax you're sending me your whole bike in bits and pieces at this point. Just cheaper to move to charlotte for you.
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Quote from: The Buddha on May 02, 2008, 12:26:43 PM
Seamax - I dont powdercoat myself. I have this place that does it. He's done stuff for me for years. Very very very good and very reasonable. 150-200 for a GS frame, and $75-100 for a gas tank (depends on what color and what else you doing on top of it ... like glitter in the clear coat (done it) or silver under candy blue - done plenty of that ... or 1 solid color. The thing is, he cannot adhere to a time ... he may say 1 week, and it may not have even been touched a week later ... but he is great.
Wheels, I'll have to knock the bearings out and you'd have to (or I can) put in new bearings after coating cos those get killed in powder, and the grease will melt and run and ruin everything, so we gotta get it out.
Berto - Yea home powdercoating kits are in harbour freight. They never do as well as the industrial shops, and best of all, he'll sand blast it so beautifully ... you can eat off it. Then the powder is just perfect.
Anyway, seamax you're sending me your whole bike in bits and pieces at this point. Just cheaper to move to charlotte for you.
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At this rate I should just commision you to build me a something like this. My dream project is to build something almost identical to this in the future.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/seamax206/100_1222_001.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/seamax206/100_1221.jpg)
I cant see the pic at work ... but I have a GS frankenbike I should build in the next 3-4 months.
GS frame, GR650 motor Kat FE and rear wheels, and more.
I also have a GS that I have powdercoated. Maybe I'll put pics of it ... See its sandwiched between 300 boxes and a gas dryer in my garage ... but you name it and it has it. I run the tires bald on it and I'll powder coat them too.
Its one of those things, I will not toss away things that have some life in them.
Pics ... maybe sometime in the next month.
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Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on May 02, 2008, 01:47:11 PM
I cant see the pic at work ... but I have a GS frankenbike I should build in the next 3-4 months.
GS frame, GR650 motor Kat FE and rear wheels, and more.
I also have a GS that I have powdercoated. Maybe I'll put pics of it ... See its sandwiched between 300 boxes and a gas dryer in my garage ... but you name it and it has it. I run the tires bald on it and I'll powder coat them too.
Its one of those things, I will not toss away things that have some life in them.
Pics ... maybe sometime in the next month.
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Buddha.
Hmmm....maybe by tax time next year i might have some money to throw your way. For some reason I have been craving to have a bobber to accompany my GS. A nice small old school looking bobber. Nothing fat or extreme like today's custom choppers.
Oh yea, done that, savage 650 with a 10 inch over FE (not raked, just longer and bigger tubes in the FE akes for a semi chop feel) drag bars with 6 inch risers, 1 seat with the rear fender hacked off 6 inches off your butt and a tombstone taillight.
Get this, the Reguator/rectifier fits neatly in the airbox ... yes inside it, and the filter too.
The thing is I may go with a single smooth bore carb and K&N filter and maybe buy a cam ... if it works good the way it is. Its mainly un changed except for the fender in the back and the FE.
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That bike is awesome, I like it a lot!
A sausage ... this is my second/fourth. My friend had this, broke a valve (BTW he also fried a GS motor in 6K miles so he'll kill anything) I bought it for $100 sold him a running GS for 500 and the next week he bought this back from me after I found out that it had a broken top end, had people buying parts off it ... then he bought another motor for it, had me fit it, have it nice and running, and the cam chain tensioner (a perennial weak spot) was modded on the motor and it was letting the cain run loose and hack the cases into a ditch.
Then I bought it and filled up the cases, got the CCT fixed and fit it into the frame that I powdercoated, then I find out the top triple was messed up. I therefore decide to turn it into a chopper, and then figure I can also bob it, and that is where I am.
I have had it running, but I am missing a front caliper for the KX500 FE I have. I need to make a spacer for it and I am now good to go.
Hope it looks as cool as a Jesse james chopper/bobber and runs like a savage.
My 1 and 3 bikes were absolute trouble free beauties. In fact I got #3 for a song with a broken starter gear set. Swapped it out with the one from the motor that ate the valve and it was running like a top.
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PICS please. Let's see some of your wrok.
hey srierr buddha, ive been toying with the idea of a gr650/gs500 wap as well. when you get it done, please share teh info O0
Ha ha pics of my work ... when I am through with it, it will almost not even get noticed.
The GR swap is easy enough, just some flat bar and a welder is all you need, once I got the whole thing planned. The technical issues come in when running it off the GS electrics and routing its exhaust to name a few.
BTW I also cut the Tbrace and made it unboltable, so I can do a valve adjustment with it in the frame. Heck I can get the head off and cylinders too wihtout taking the motor out ... and yet barely get my little fingernail under that T brace above the valve cover.
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the gr exhaust exits at an angle. aka pipe would run into frame rails :mad: would a gs head fit on it?
Make a header. That is what I am doing, in fact the GS head will probably have the headers run into the frame cross brace. Its ~1 inch taller than the GS at the valve cover.
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