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Poll
Question: What style shifting do you prefer on the street
Option 1: GP-Style
Option 2: Standard
Title: How do you shift
Post by: spc on May 12, 2008, 07:36:01 AM
I'm just kinda curious.  The Duc came with the stock linkages installed and a shifter for GP-Style.  I recently put the GP shifter on and I think I prefer it to standard.
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: simon79 on May 12, 2008, 08:30:28 AM
GP style?
D'ya mean press lever to upshift - pull up to downshift?
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: ohgood on May 12, 2008, 09:24:39 AM
If I'm coordinated enough to actually hit the next gear, I'm happy ;)

If it doesn't sound like I've just crashed an icebox into a coconut van, I'm ecstatic.

If it goes smoothly without anyone cringing, it's a real success.

:D (standard)
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: bucks1605 on May 12, 2008, 09:55:02 AM
Quote from: simon79 on May 12, 2008, 08:30:28 AM
GP style?
D'ya mean press lever to upshift - pull up to downshift?

1 up 5 down on the gs would be gp style. I think if I got used to it I might like it. I've been considering getting some rearsets, so I could give it a go.
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: scottpA_GS on May 12, 2008, 11:18:46 AM

  The GS is no moto GP bike, so no need for moto GP shifting.  :icon_mrgreen: We had a Honda something here at work once and it was 1 up 5 down, I didnt like it   O0
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: Jay_wolf on May 12, 2008, 12:32:56 PM
Id prefer standerd , ive been doing it for 4 years . and the last thing i need to do is rememeber ,when i get 2 a corner to click up instead of down ,,

Is shifting faster with gp? , being u can stamp down the gears , but it would take the same amount of time to click up
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: spc on May 12, 2008, 12:53:09 PM
It's different, it might be a little faster shifting up.  I got used to it pretty quick, though I have mis-shifted a few times :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: scottpA_GS on May 12, 2008, 01:48:19 PM

Did you ever post pics of your bike all finished? w/ signals and tail light? Or you just ridin dirty still  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: spc on May 12, 2008, 02:24:34 PM
Nope, she's all legal now.  No turn signals, but they aren't required in GA or SC.  The tail light is just zip tied to the subframe for now, I intend to make an undertail for the race tail and incorporate some LED taillights.
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: mach1 on May 12, 2008, 05:57:51 PM
My GS has GP shifting and for me is easier and faster. WHY you ask, the way my shifter pedal is positions it sits just below my foot so instead of moving over and tipping my toe down to go under its right there just tap down and im good.
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: bettingpython on May 12, 2008, 06:15:04 PM
I just kept mine stock. Standard shifting.

GP shifting is for racers entering a turn they are in a lower gear decelerating and on the brakes when they begin the drive out of a long turn they may run out of gear and need a quick upshift. At those lean angles you can't get your toe under the shifter so shifting up by pressing down is much easier. Plus if you accidentally shift up you lose your power band and drive on a track, shifting down accidentally can be very bad.
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 12, 2008, 08:20:56 PM
i pull the clutch, and hit the lever. one way or teh other :thumb:
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: jserio on May 12, 2008, 08:45:48 PM
i shift in my dreams.
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: bucks1605 on May 12, 2008, 08:50:17 PM
Quote from: jserio on May 12, 2008, 08:45:48 PM
i shift in my dreams.

:laugh:

One day soon that will change.  :thumb:
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: spc on May 12, 2008, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: bettingpython on May 12, 2008, 06:15:04 PM
shifting down accidentally can be very bad.

No shaZam!!  I've had several instances where I've been getting a little frisky on the bike and end up down shifting aggressively only to hear my rear tire lock up.
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: jserio on May 12, 2008, 09:04:51 PM
i've only had experience with a rebel...i know, laugh it up....   anyways. i'm guessing more powerful bikes are a bit pickier and will punish you for things like shifting down too far or sudden throttle roll-offs/on's?  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: spc on May 12, 2008, 09:14:01 PM
You could say that.  From my experience and talking to other Duc owners, the finnicky mannerism is a little more pronounced in Ducs than other brands.  Mine gets light in 3rd with heavy roll ons, damn near throws you over the front if you snap the throttle closed at anything over 5k and I'm pretty sure I lose more tire to aggressive down shifting than most squids do to burnouts.  The HM1100 was pretty much the same, though it did feel a little bit more refined.  I'm told the 1098 and 848 pretty much just want to kill you if you're an unexperienced rider.
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: bucks1605 on May 12, 2008, 09:20:50 PM
Quote from: spcterry on May 12, 2008, 09:14:01 PM
You could say that.  From my experience and talking to other Duc owners, the finnicky mannerism is a little more pronounced in Ducs than other brands.  Mine gets light in 3rd with heavy roll ons, damn near throws you over the front if you snap the throttle closed at anything over 5k and I'm pretty sure I lose more tire to aggressive down shifting than most squids do to burnouts.  The HM1100 was pretty much the same, though it did feel a little bit more refined.  I'm told the 1098 and 848 pretty much just want to kill you if you're an unexperienced rider.

I wasn't sure what the HM1100 looked like, so I did a quick Yahoo image search and this was what came up...

Looks pretty refined to me  :dunno_white:

(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb62/bucks1605/HM1100_l.jpg)
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: jserio on May 12, 2008, 09:29:20 PM
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: spc on May 12, 2008, 09:33:39 PM
Ducati's and demolition hammers are all that show up in google
(http://www.veronavip.com/Public/data/Freddysky/20077318833_Ducati_Hypermotard_stpz.jpg)

Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: bucks1605 on May 12, 2008, 09:36:29 PM
Quote from: spcterry on May 12, 2008, 09:33:39 PM
Ducati's and demolition hammers are all that show up in google
(http://www.veronavip.com/Public/data/Freddysky/20077318833_Ducati_Hypermotard_stpz.jpg)



Probably because I didn't type in Ducati with my search. Yahoo sucks anyway, I usually use Google.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=HM1100&fr=yfp-t-367&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8 (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=HM1100&fr=yfp-t-367&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8)
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: jserio on May 12, 2008, 09:41:11 PM
intresting looking bike.  :thumb:
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: Affschnozel on May 13, 2008, 09:01:53 AM
Quote from: spcterry on May 12, 2008, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: bettingpython on May 12, 2008, 06:15:04 PM
shifting down accidentally can be very bad.

No shaZam!!  I've had several instances where I've been getting a little frisky on the bike and end up down shifting aggressively only to hear my rear tire lock up.

Don't just downshift and let out the clutch , blip the throttle as you shift and release clutch ,makes it much smoother  :thumb:
Title: Re: How do you shift
Post by: spc on May 13, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
Ever ridden a short geared race bike?  there's no way to aggressively downshift smoothly.  You just contain the after math of the action.  I've gotten pretty used to it and it definitely gets some interesting looks from the squids I end up riding with.