Id rather ask this in the non GS forum directly. I trust a lot of your opinions.
So Ive had my 93 for 7 years and been here i think 4 of them. But I think I may have found her replacement. Im a short guy only 5'6 ish and the seat height of the GS has always ben a problem for me. Now i know i can cut that down an inch or so by going with a Corbin seat or lowering the bike down. But I made the trek into the local Harley dealership and saw a new Sportster 883L.
As an ex-salesman I knew not to buy it on the spot. Because at the point it was an emotional purchase. Im riding my 93 (finally) to save on gas. But supposedly it gets 60mpg which isnt to far off my GS. And I can plant both feet on the ground with room to spare. The L has a 25.6" seat height. I test rode a 1200 Sportster but I dont need a big engine like that. It felt like it was getting away from me. I could teach myself to get used to it. But the 883 should be good for cruising and even some longer trips.
Now you dont ask about buying Sportsters on a Sportster frum if you want an unbiased answer. And you dont ask about buying a GS on a GS forum if you want unbiased. So I step up and ask you the GS community pros and cons of this.
The gas mileage is good. The price isnt to bad. Its going to be about $8500. Been trying to figure out if i could get something better from another manufacture. But there is still that feeling of the fact that its made in the US. Plus it really seems like Harley is trying to add some modern tech to the bikes. Fuel injection across all ranges. Rubber mounted engines (Welcome Harley to 1950!). Gauges that actually tell you something and gas tanks that arent in the 2 gallon range (although the L has a 3.3 only).
My GS had all that work done to it. Runs like a top and is fine for me. But Im one of those people who just want a cruiser and ive gotten my money out of her with no regrets.
Thoughts comments?
i have ridden two of the 883's. they are the baby or beginners harley. personally i would never own one, i just don't like the look, the sound or the crowd. but aside from that the 883 is ok but i would put my money on a new gsf or a sv650s
Check out the new GSX650F :thumb: Its a grown up GS with FI :thumb:
(http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/uploads/bike_gsx650f_main1.jpg)
One will be mine if I can hide it somewhere in the warehouse and buy it as a leftover next year :icon_mrgreen:
I dont like the sport look. One of those things I did like about having an E was that it had the naked look to it still.
This thread super pisses me off. First, Frankie.............let me tell you a little something.............the "sportsters" of yesteryear made back in the the late 50's and 60's were NOT "883's". They were probably less than 850 cc's. I THINK they were around 830 cc's or so. And don't tell me that the ".243 is a "woman's" gun...........or a "youth gun" (it is a necked down in caliber only-.308 which is a "man's gun). This bullshit is all media hype and advertising to sell more. A damn 883 SHOULD BE as was in 1965 called a 900 Sporster. You DO call a 487 cc Suzuki a 500 don't you? I just love the hams on here that talk about "horsepower" and especially
"speed indicated". Well.........................for decades "we" talked about speed as to what the speedometer read. None of us had a radar clocked check. And most today don't either. And most of us today don't have dyno runs either. And to tell you the truth, it's all fuckin' stupid. All of it............ALL of it is nothing more than putting a raccoon tail on your antenna and saying "look at me". I am
"it".
And for those that have plastic crotchrockets.......unless you have money and "race for money"......STFU......
p.s. An 883 Harley Davidson.....................is a H A R L E Y D A V I D S O N
and it ain't no "girl's bike"...............it's a "real one"..................
p.s.s. That GSX650F is one putrid piece of plastic. I own a nice clean Y2K model nekkid and I wouldn't trade you even up.
To Hell with that plastic trash that passes today (with lottsa Media help) for a "motorcycle". I guess the magazines and the TV told you that "the girls" like it huh?
Ahhhh!!!!
There he is :icon_mrgreen:
Welcome back Wilson :cheers:
TROLL!!!! Just kidding! ;)
Asking for 'Thoughts, comments?' from any internet message board is usually a bad idea. Asking it on a Japaneese bike board about a HD is just inviting the worst out of people. Are you going to do whatever the majority of us decide for you? Come on...you are a big boy...you just ride whatever makes you feel most comfortable and we will ALL be happy for you, no matter what it is. :cheers:
However, my worthless thought process would be...
1. If YOU LIKE IT, but you CAN'T get a good deal on it... don't buy it.
2. If YOU LIKE IT, and CAN get a good deal on it... buy it.
Nothing else really matters. Good luck, my friend!
I know the whole harley stigma goes with it, but I'd just check out something like a vstar 600 or something like that. Great support, cheaper, just as many parts, same stance same style, but cheaper and probably cheaper insurance too. So many cruisers out there to choose from. Also, do you have to buy new?? The depreciation of a motorcycle sucks for most newer bikes, so buy a year or two old that is a factory certified or factory maintained trade in. There are so many options.
Quote from: Revere2 on May 15, 2008, 08:13:51 PM
And for those that have plastic crotchrockets.......unless you have money and "race for money"......STFU......
No I won't,
WTF is so sporty about a sportster it's a great lumbering hunk of crap.
But hey if you like it go for it.
Bite my nut Wilson :laugh:
Whats funny , is i was looking at the thread for wilson about the get well card , and i had a feeling it was (******) , as some1 mentioned racist arguement starter
Quote from: bombadillo on May 15, 2008, 09:59:10 PM
I know the whole harley stigma goes with it, but I'd just check out something like a vstar 600 or something like that. Great support, cheaper, just as many parts, same stance same style, but cheaper and probably cheaper insurance too. So many cruisers out there to choose from. Also, do you have to buy new?? The depreciation of a motorcycle sucks for most newer bikes, so buy a year or two old that is a factory certified or factory maintained trade in. There are so many options.
I almost recommended a V-Star 650 as well. I bought a brand new V-Star 1100 back in 2003, and I loved it. Low seat height, Comfortable, shaft drive, very reliable, and you can get them for a song. I sold mine a couple years later simply because the 1100 was overkill for just riding around town. Also, I wanted something a liitle more unconventional...so I bought a VStrom 650!
Go find a Yamaha dealer and sit on a V-Star 650...I bet you like it (and the price tag).
I wasnt expecting sunshine to be shined up my rear :) Thats why I asked here.
Theres nothing really Sporty about the Sportster. Although compared to the other Harley's it is Sporty. If I had to have an American sport bike i could always get a Buell. But thats not what Im looking at. What amazes me is that whenever they update the technology people complain about it. I know that I may one of the very few actually comparing it against other bikes in its class. But the sales for the Motor Company are slowing down. And the V-Rod seemed to work by being an anti-Harley. Why not either release a new model Sportster. One that can truly go up against bikes from other companies. Yeah I know pipe dream. It will happen the day you can negotiate the price on one
Ive seen a lot of "Its a girls bike" which I also find as BS. I dont want with a car tire on back. I dont want one that weighs 900 lbs empty and without a rider. I dont need all the extra addons on the big harleys either. Plus if i wanted to spend $20k Id find a better then new Triumph Spitfire (thats the car not the bike) and use that daily. Which all goes back to the Sportster in the Harley line up.
As for the V-Star. Yeah actually its kinda been at the back of my mind for some time. And I was looking at the model ranges from the other manufactures as well. Because you know a nice water cooled 650 V-Star would keep costs down. They really have done a nice job with the look of them over the years as well. Plus you can always go odd and find a used Marauder with a 650 thumper just to be different.
It doesnt have to be new. There were just some changes in 2007/2008 that made getting new or 1 year old worth the upgrade. You are absolutley correct about the depreciation though. One of my justifications was that Harley's hold their value well.
And let me say once again. Its the honesty i was looking for. So far this is an emotional purchase.
OKay fodder now that we are through the whole wilson tirade its simple.
HD is antiquated technology which is over priced and marketed by image. You could do better with a metric cruiser by another manufacturer.
But if YOU like it and YOU have sat on or ridden one and it makes your heart go pitter patter and you get a warm wet sticky feeling in the crotch of your jeans then I say go for it if it's what you want.
Please refrain from falling into the image stereotype that harley markets to though. I would hope that you can take away from this site that gear is essential if you ride. Helmet, Jacket, Gloves and Boots and of course appropriate long pants and not poser gear but good honest gear that will do it's job.
A "get well" card that someone sent to another with the utmost sincerity was a "racist argument starter"?.....................that's a good one...............
that's so damn stupid, that I can't in good conscience, comment on it.
Now, the Sportster may not be "sporty" to you. In fact, it is heavy, brutish, and low slung. But a sportster has been what it is and WHATEVER you think of it long before most of you were born. It's as American as John Wayne and apple pie and home made ice cream. If they had adhered to their advertisment in a magazine I was looking at while on the toilet at a plant in April of 2000, I'd've bought one. It said 5700 bucks. Buy the time I got through talking to the rep about "another seat" and a gas tank that held more than a pint and an add on tach, hell the thing went up to 7K with "dealer prep" and "shipping" charges. I was not going to pay 7K to ride to a store to get beer that is 1/8 mile away. But I did pay 4300 for a GS500EY in the crate. It still sits enclosed and protected in my shed. Let's see..............1940 miles on the odometer...........store is 1/8 mile away..................that is a lot of beer!!!
And...........I can't stand plastic crotch rockets............CANT..........never have!!! They are uglier than home made sin! You could take them ALL off the face of the earth and that would be just FINE with me. They belong on a track only. Period. Conversation is OVER.
And Betti.............you can lick my underarms clean and spotless.
now now boys!
Wilson you old reprobate Hardley Abelson belongs one place and one place only....In the fields plowing.
Alll farm equipment has 2 names Massey-Ferguson, ford-newholland, John Deere, moto-guzzi and harley davidson.
The only reason those peices of crap still exist is the protectionist practices taken by our government to keep them from being plowed under by the Japanese who do it better and for less money than Hardley can.
I wouldn't lick your nasty armpit even if shaved clean and dork that nasty thing.
Now this conversation is over.
And you better realize that this is good natured banter...you old coon ass
P.S.
The GSX-F does look like poo....
It's not considered a real supersport either.
Buy Honda :thumb:
I like cheese.
COME ON CASIUSA....................drag out that old ass Telecaster and sing with me
#LITTLE HONDAwritten by Brian Wilson and Mike Loveperformed by the Beach Boys
Go!
I'm gonna wake you up early cause i'm gonna take a ride with you.
We're goin' down to the honda shop, i'll tell you what we're gonna do.
Put on a ragged sweatshirt, i'll take you where you want me to.
First gear, it's all right (honda, honda, go faster, faster)
Second gear, i'll lean right (honda, honda, go faster, faster)
Third gear, hang on tight (honda, honda, go faster, faster)
Faster, it's all right.
It's not a big motorcycle,
Just a groovy little motorbike.
It's more fun than a barrel of monkeys,
That two-wheeled bike.
We'll ride on out of town
To anyplace i know you like.
Chorus
First gear, it's all right (honda, honda, go faster, faster)
Second gear, i'll lean right (honda, honda, go faster, faster)
Third gear, hang on tight (honda, honda, go faster, faster)
Faster, it's all right.
It climbs the hills like a Matchless,
Cause my honda' built really light.
When i go in to the turns
Better hang on tight.
I'd better turn on the lights
So we can ride my honda tonight.
Repeat chorus
Chords involved are C F G G7 and D7 show me when to change and I think we can do this one
Quote from: bettingpython on May 16, 2008, 08:33:55 AM
P.S.
The GSX-F does look like poo....
It's not considered a real supersport either.
Buy Honda :thumb:
Post on a Honda board then, not here. :flipoff:
Quote from: scottpA_GS on May 16, 2008, 09:11:14 AM
Post on a Honda board then, not here. :flipoff:
Right, in an offtopic thread discussing a harley as a potential GS upgrade :icon_rolleyes:
Quote from: bettingpython on May 16, 2008, 08:31:29 AM
Wilson you old reprobate Hardley Abelson belongs one place and one place only....In the fields plowing.
Alll farm equipment has 2 names Massey-Ferguson, ford-newholland, John Deere, moto-guzzi and harley davidson.
The only reason those peices of crap still exist is the protectionist practices taken by our government to keep them from being plowed under by the Japanese who do it better and for less money than Hardley can.
I wouldn't lick your nasty armpit even if shaved clean and dork that nasty thing.
Now this conversation is over.
And you better realize that this is good natured banter...you old coon ass
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: my dad had a massy siting in his feild ....going potato potato potato :laugh: :laugh:
What you really want is a Rocket III. I would plug a Ducati, but they don't make a cruiser, so it's the next best thing :thumb: On the plus side, if your car ever breaks down you can tow it to the shop with your bike :laugh:
Quote from: fodder650 on May 15, 2008, 06:57:02 PM
Id rather ask this in the non GS forum directly. I trust a lot of your opinions.
So Ive had my 93 for 7 years and been here i think 4 of them. But I think I may have found her replacement. Im a short guy only 5'6 ish and the seat height of the GS has always ben a problem for me. Now i know i can cut that down an inch or so by going with a Corbin seat or lowering the bike down. But I made the trek into the local Harley dealership and saw a new Sportster 883L.
As an ex-salesman I knew not to buy it on the spot. Because at the point it was an emotional purchase. Im riding my 93 (finally) to save on gas. But supposedly it gets 60mpg which isnt to far off my GS. And I can plant both feet on the ground with room to spare. The L has a 25.6" seat height. I test rode a 1200 Sportster but I dont need a big engine like that. It felt like it was getting away from me. I could teach myself to get used to it. But the 883 should be good for cruising and even some longer trips.
Now you dont ask about buying Sportsters on a Sportster frum if you want an unbiased answer. And you dont ask about buying a GS on a GS forum if you want unbiased. So I step up and ask you the GS community pros and cons of this.
The gas mileage is good. The price isnt to bad. Its going to be about $8500. Been trying to figure out if i could get something better from another manufacture. But there is still that feeling of the fact that its made in the US. Plus it really seems like Harley is trying to add some modern tech to the bikes. Fuel injection across all ranges. Rubber mounted engines (Welcome Harley to 1950!). Gauges that actually tell you something and gas tanks that arent in the 2 gallon range (although the L has a 3.3 only).
My GS had all that work done to it. Runs like a top and is fine for me. But Im one of those people who just want a cruiser and ive gotten my money out of her with no regrets.
Thoughts comments?
Hey, how's it going ? Ya, I like going to the stealerships myself and sitting on 'new' bikes now and again. Most of the new bikes have the gs beat with options, creature comforts, etc agreed. The thing that gets me: It's just two wheels. I can lean a mountain bike, or a gs, or a $60,000 chopper. Being a cheapskate (with medical bills) and not much cash, the gs fits the bill.
That's my opinion about MOST THINGS motorcycles ^^
Here's my opinion about the sportster:
It's a HD. That's a problem for me. I admit it. It does have decent ergos, pleasing looks, and parts are available for when they fall off (couldn't resist) that are easily found. The power is good, the handling is, well, it's a motorcycle anyway, and should outperform a car in acceleration, gas milage, all the important stuff.
I like the feel of the cruiser's seats and bars provided they have foam grips. There is a hella lot of shakin going on with those things, and I found it unacceptable.
I'll give them credit for finally stepping into the world of fuel injection and drive belts. Suzuki could benefit by using some of that tech. I'd love to have them both on a gs myself.
The funny thing about HD's is whenever I see one parked that has a normal non-digital odometer, there ARENT ANY MILES ON IT ! 15,000-20,000 seems like the top end of milage. The few people I've shared workspace with that rode HD's traded in their bikes at around 20-25,000 miles, because it was 'old' or whatever reason. I really didn't understand it at the time. Now I think it's just the aloof attitude that "I can afford the payment (notice, not "I can afford it" !) so I'm getting one" and not really any sense behind it.
What it all comes down to is, you're the one sitting on it. Be it a gs500, ninja, vintage bmw, cb750, or a brand new busa. If it fits your frame, doesn't hurt your wallet (I mean paying cash) and doesn't disrupt your life by requiring constant attention, sure, get it.
Good luck with your decision. Nothing wrong with asking for the opinions on the gs forum. These guys (for the most part anyway) always give good information, and really enjoy riding. I know I do ! :D
Thanks and because of this I'll be looking at some alternatives to this. I was smart enough not to put a non-refundable deposit on one.
So V-Strom... did I miss something like shouldnt it have been V-Storm?
Quote from: Jay_wolf on May 16, 2008, 04:35:11 AM
Whats funny , is i was looking at the thread for wilson about the get well card , and i had a feeling it was (******) , as some1 mentioned racist arguement starter
jay, m8 i was the recipient of the get well card, i assure you it is not bs or whatever was edited out ll. teh 883, is 883 cc's, i had an 03, ( annie bike) annie being anniversary, . many things you can do to the bike. lemme know if you get it, and have questions about it. ( i am certified to do HD and SUZ warranty work. also duc, moto guzzi and a few others :thumb:
Well I think im starting to lower my list down. Suzuki M50, Kawasaki 900 Classic and then just because I like the way it looks even if it hasnt been updated in 25 years the Vulcan 500 LTD
the kawi 900 classic is a nice looking bike IMO. but it is freakin huge! i've never seen a 900 that was as big as this. the reason for this i'm told is because kawi used the same frame for it as their larger bikes, 1600 etc. giving it that, "big boy" look. i didn't sit on the one i saw, there wasn't enough room in the showroom to get a good feel for it. i've sat on an m50, seems ok. most everyone who buys any of the cruisers you've mentioned will swear by them. they've all got a loyal fanbase. as far as "best bang for your buck", i can't help you. i'm kinda in the same boat as you except i have no bike at all. so i've been searching as well. there are so many to chose from. decide what you want in a bike, then look for bikes with those features at each manufacturer and narrow it down from there i guess. that's what i'm doing. although i must say i've changed my mind a few times. :laugh:
I owned a 883 for about a year and a half...I like cheese better.
i sat on a couple of bikes at the local HD dealership today. an 883 custom and a 1200 low. i was comfy on both but suprisingly more comfortable on the 1200 low. maybe it's cuz my legs didn't have to stretch as much to firmly plant both feet down while sittin on the bike. :dunno_white: both were nice looking bikes though IMO.
Quote from: mojonixon on May 17, 2008, 03:53:18 PM
I owned a 883 for about a year and a half...I like cheese better.
Hey...That was MY line! :nono:
Quote from: fodder650 on May 16, 2008, 01:05:42 PM
So V-Strom... did I miss something like shouldnt it have been V-Storm?
Nope. V-Strom is the correct name. Otherwise known as the DL 650 and DL 1000. Bad ass bike, too. Same engine as the SV. I really miss mine, but will be getting another one when I can.
http://www.suzukicycles.com/products/DL650K8 (http://www.suzukicycles.com/products/DL650K8)
From what I've heard the V-strom is a fantastic TOURING bike. Stabile, good ergos, and heavy enough to soak up bumps / vibrations. Good power, all that. :)
WAS, your line :laugh:
no prob from my views on the sportie. for one, one can buy an 883, and bump it up to a 1200, AND still have factory warranty coverage. :thumb: ive done this swap myself, takes about 3 hours :thumb:
yama, is the suspension system and everything the same on these bikes? i've been trying to compare them and they seem close to identical to me. the 1200 actually weighs 2 pounds less than the 883. :laugh: of course that's according to the numbers on the harley website. oh, and mileage isn't really a big difference either. but you know, the bike i sat on today, it was so sexy. the paint color. oh,man, i think the seat was wet when i got off! :laugh: it was a 1200 Low....Crimson Red Sunglo was the color. now, online, it doesn't look that great but in person......damn. and the sales guy said it's even sexier in the sunlight! :thumb:
i like cabbage
Cheese > Cabbage
Cabbage + Cheese = methane gas, better bring the beano!
Traded my 883 for a Honda Shadow Spirit with Cobra Drag pipes, and you know what, the Honda sounded better, rode better, started EVERY time and got more complements!
Quote from: jserio on May 18, 2008, 12:11:22 AM
yama, is the suspension system and everything the same on these bikes? i've been trying to compare them and they seem close to identical to me. the 1200 actually weighs 2 pounds less than the 883. :laugh: of course that's according to the numbers on the harley website. oh, and mileage isn't really a big difference either. but you know, the bike i sat on today, it was so sexy. the paint color. oh,man, i think the seat was wet when i got off! :laugh: it was a 1200 Low....Crimson Red Sunglo was the color. now, online, it doesn't look that great but in person......damn. and the sales guy said it's even sexier in the sunlight! :thumb:
pretty much teh same. teh engine lower end, is identical, the head is as well. only difference is the cylinder, and piston.. plus they hold their value quite well. no matter what influences that, they hold their value WELL :thumb:
you know, i hear so many people bashing these machines. i wonder how many of them have actually owned one, or ridden one? every since i was little when anyone mentioned motorcycles, Harley-Davidson always came to mind. maybe it's cuz my uncle bought me my first leather jacket around age 2 and my mum has a pic of me sitting on his harley. :laugh: someone mentioned a honda cruiser for a bit cheaper. eh, yeah it's cheaper, but it doesn't have FI. and if i buy a new bike, i want FI. now, i'll probably end up buying an older used bike just to ride and get back in the groove of things before making that nice shiny new bike purchase. :laugh: and i've noticed that what you said about them holding their value is true. almost like corvettes. ohhh..speaking of corvettes...wait, better not thread jack, i should just start a 'vette thread. :laugh:
i drove a few of tehm at a car auction test track :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
:icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: is right. man, i'm reading reports that the '09 zr1 will have around 620hp.... 0-60 in around 3.5....mmmmm...gives me a boner thinkin bout it! :thumb: :laugh:
damned hard to keep the rubber planted :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: ( i was rolling about 40 ish, and floored it. it lit em up something fierce
but the price tags for most 'vettes in good condition are a bit much to deal with. :laugh:
Ok so after all this going back and forth. I went to go to Micheal Andretti Motorsports to look at the Vulcan 500. Because you know its the month of Indy. And if theres anyone that has shown it can fail at Indy repeatedly its Andretti and there closed on Mondays. Go up the street to the Suzuki Dealer. Ive gotten work done by them on my GS. Didn't have bad experiences with them.
Walk over the S40 and talked to Joe-Joe the salesman (no im not making this up, nice older guy raced bikes for 25 years). And I immediately get "Well have you looked at the C50 we have here for $6,000". I have no willpower. Wife was with me. Thats the price range I wanted to be in. Its $900 off list price but thats a Suzuki rebate.
Thoughts on the C50.
Its Fuel Injected
Its Liquid Cooled
its only an 800cc (so basically a girls bike because it has less then a 2 liter engine)
ITS EFFING HUGE
Did I mention its big
Oh and its GIGAMORMUS
Nice looking dash with LCD fuel gauge an actual clock
Has Flash to Pass and a hazard light!! (what bikes have a hazard?)
Forward controls with floorboards
Heal/toe Shifter
Its a nice looking silver all over same as the 883l was
So I'm going in tomorrow to sign the bill of sale. Got the loan stuff all taken care. Still have my GS500. Should be up on Ebay next week once i give it a proper bath. I want to keep the GS. Have it as my toy around canyon carver. But having a hard time justifying it. Might get another one later to just have one to work on.
Of course they are calling for a lot of rain here in South Central Pa tomorrow. Starting to think I might have to go negotiate on the price as well. Although I'm in a bad position. Its the only one leftover he has. And if what I read online is right there isnt much profit built into it by Suzuki.
The size will take some getting used to. I'm 5'6 and I can flat foot my feet without my knees being straight. Its very comfortable. I love the idea of it being Fuel Injected and the little things like a fuel gauge are nice. Plus it gets good gas mileage, according to reports on the web of 45-50mpg.
But let me ask this of all cruisers. Why don't you get a tach? Is there something thats bad about knowing what RPM your going? This bike has cut costs in a lot of ways. First is a 5 speed (with 5th being meant as a tall highway overdrive) not a 6. It has a drum rear not a disk. Which is a surprise for the size and weight of it. But wheres the tach? And where can I manage to put one aftermarket since the gauges are in the 4 gallon tank.
Speaking of the gas tank. What is up with it being a 4 gallon? its a huge tank it looks like it is much larger. Or is the matter of having the airbox where the tank would be?
Congrats Man! That will probably be a good bike. I don't think you can go wrong with any metric cruiser now-a-days. Wish you had gone back to look at the Yamaha V-Star, though. Even if it is 'just' 650 cc's. ;)
This isn't meant to be an insult AT ALL, but it has been sounding like you were soooo anxuious for a new bike that we all knew you were probably going to buy the very next bike you saw...no matter how many you had planned to look at! That's ok... I'm a lot like that too at times! :thumb: I hope it gives you many thousands of miles of joy!
Don't really know about the tach question. Maybe it's because a cruiser is going to develope most of its power down low, and not much risk of red-line with it. A crotch-rocket, on the other hand, will hit that redline PDQ, so it helps to have that visual aide. Someone much more knowledgable will probably have the real answer for you soon.
Again, Congrats on the bike, my friend! Wear your gear, and RIDE SAFE!!!
Hey didnt buy the first I saw. If I had Id be a Harley Sportster rider. I also didnt get hung up on the Vulcan and trust me 650 would have been plenty. Check out my name the 650 is because of my first bike an 1980 CB650C. Which was plenty fast for me.
So tomorrow i go do the bill of sale. Bike is $900 off of list. Went to search to see if there was a Suzuki rebate adding to part of that. Couldnt find one so thats from the dealer.
As with any bike the majority of your stopping power is up front. No need for more than a rear drum. My rear and my wifes rear brake are both deliberately spongy. Almost impossible to slide the rear on brakes alone.
Dunno about the tach though my shadow and my uncles vtx both had them. Not necessary anyway fi will have an ecu controlled rev limiter.
Sport bikes Have rev limiters as well but the tach is a tool for keeping the bike in the peak power band, not so necessary on a vtwin cruiser.
Quote from: jserio on May 18, 2008, 11:39:51 PM
:icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: is right. man, i'm reading reports that the '09 zr1 will have around 620hp.... 0-60 in around 3.5....mmmmm...gives me a boner thinkin bout it! :thumb: :laugh:
from what I've heard, the powerplant still has some pretty major bugs to be smoothed out before it can even think about production, we won't even discuss the fact that 'vettes have the overall prowess of a retarded pregnant hippo.
You want a stunning car? 2008 GT2. 3.6 0-60, 530rwhp and an exhaust note that could make the mightiest of lions piss themselves in terror.
at what 5 times the price? like comparing apples to oranges, or cruisers to rockets :thumb:
that GT2 has a tag of $190k......the '09 vette i believe will be around $100k. final details though aren't out yet. should be soon. couple months i'm told. :thumb:
Meh id still get a vette. any vette. porsche costs to own are HIGH, however, if one can afford the aforementioned costs, then one can USUALLY aford its upkeep. ill still wait and get a late 70,s or early 80's ferrari 308 ( magnum style), plenty of experience working on and rebuilding these machines
although i WOULD LOVE to get my hands on a GT2 for a few minutes :icon_twisted:
See if i was going to do a toy car it would be a British car like a Triumph Spitfire. Sure its 0-60 time is "What it hits 60?" . And you have to invest in a ton of kitty litter for placing under the car when its parked. But these are real cars.
Agriculutral motors that are nice and easy to work on. Ground clearance thats... whose kidding theres no ground clearance. And in the case of the Lotus Seven a car that keep up with the bikes in the Dragon
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on May 19, 2008, 11:15:22 PM
at what 5 times the price? like comparing apples to oranges, or cruisers to rockets :thumb:
Actually, most people would compare a GT2 to the 'new' vette. They are quite commonly lumped into the same category. Word on an '09 or '10 remake of the GT2 tends to indicate almost 700hp expected and 0-60 at 3.0, of course this could be overcast by Ferrari's highly-anticipated yet highly-secretive F60
harley as sexy....that i just can't get my head around. i suppose it would make you look more attractive sitting around with all those fat old guys in bandanna's at the coffee shop
Todays lesson in bike shopping. Get that loan before you go bike shopping. Find out what you can afford
Heres a lesson i wont have to learn twice
Sportsters with the Storz kit look cool!!
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/05/10/storz-xr1200-conversion-kit/
(http://thekneeslider.com/images/storzxr1200.jpg)