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Title: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: Topnikko on May 25, 2008, 08:36:15 PM
Anyone have a Jardine, Yosh, V&H exhaust in excellent condtion that you want to part with?
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 25, 2008, 08:38:53 PM
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=41577.0 not full but the stock midpipe can be modded to accept this with good results
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: Topnikko on May 25, 2008, 11:58:26 PM
Thank you, but I really want a complete system.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: yamahonkawazuki on May 26, 2008, 12:29:35 AM
may i ask why? , is it so you can switch back if needed?
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: Topnikko on May 26, 2008, 05:18:29 PM
Numerous reasons....better horsepower, less weight, better appearance, nicer sound...etc..etc..
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: mach1 on May 26, 2008, 06:15:56 PM
what horsepower. the GS wont gain any HP with the addition of a full system unless you add a new intake(maybe a custom Ram air) and a rejet. or maybe not
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: ben2go on May 26, 2008, 08:57:21 PM
Better filter and exhaust plus a rejet doesn't really add much if any power.It just makes the power range broader thru the rpms.Also helps with better throttle response.I'd stay away from Vance and Hines.The header has to be dropped for every oil filter change.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: The Buddha on May 26, 2008, 11:04:16 PM
Oh yea a full system will do none of those that you want ... A different bike ... like a GSXR 750 will do all of those ...  :laugh:
And yes it will need to be removed every oil change, but that's OK, it will have to be painted every oil change too ... else it will rot and crumble and fall apart right in front of your eyes. Especially the V&H.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: Topnikko on May 27, 2008, 08:10:22 AM
Looks like the Jardine is the best one to go with, being stainless and allowing oil changes without dropping the pipe. Anyway, the stock pipe is a POS so it's going.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: The Buddha on May 27, 2008, 08:16:04 AM
Jardine can is stainless, header pipe is also SS ???
Cans never rust, they all are aluminum or stainless or Titanium. The header will rot away if non SS.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: erbilabuc on May 27, 2008, 09:43:37 AM
I have a full Jardine and the entire header is stainless.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: hawkijustin on May 27, 2008, 12:29:19 PM
if you let in more air plus more fuel and you let out more air your going to make more power it doesn't matter what motor you do it to.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: spc on May 27, 2008, 01:43:25 PM
yup and what people are trying to tell you is that at a point you heads and valves are a serious limiting factor.  I don't care how much air you feed the engine if the valves are too small it doesn't do any good.  Between a slip-on/flanged exhaust and a full system you *might* see one hp difference or so, but even with a lunchbox, rejet and full system you are only looking at a 40hp bike.   You want power out of your 500?  Get the valves done a few mm over, mill the head, cryo the crank, rip the balancer out and mill down the flywheel.  $5k later you have a bike that still isn't as powerful as an SV.  Accept the GS for what it is.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: ben2go on May 27, 2008, 02:33:47 PM
I agree with spcterry.Another problem with the GS head is the combustion chamber is quite large and the piston doesn't top out even with the top of the cylinder.Just machining the base of the cylinder so the piston tops out even with the cylinder rim is only going to net maybe .25 of 1 horse power.Dgyver can tell you all you need to know about building a GS engine.I know he has a 541cc and a 569cc engines. http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=14401.0
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: mach1 on May 27, 2008, 03:07:43 PM
I just changed my oil with my V&H on the bike. who ever said you need to drop it is a lazt bastard with the proper tools you can go around.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: Topnikko on May 27, 2008, 03:27:23 PM
I have a chance to pickup a V&H sytem for $35. It has some rash on the can from the bike being laid down (but no dents). Anyone know a good procedure for removing the scratches and polishing the can.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: mach1 on May 27, 2008, 04:48:02 PM
thats a good deal mothers billets polish works good on most metals and removes some scratches or scuffs but not if they are deep in the metal
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: Topnikko on May 27, 2008, 05:24:28 PM
I found the solution. V&H sells new sleaves for the cans for  $30. $65 for the oval can. Just pop out the old rivets, remove the old outside of the can, and install the new one. I'll be into the whole exhaust for $65.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: mach1 on May 27, 2008, 07:57:48 PM
sweet I got mine for 100
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: Topnikko on May 28, 2008, 06:33:08 PM
Did V&H make a stainless, or at least an unpainted pipe for the GS500?
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: ben2go on May 28, 2008, 07:35:10 PM
Quote from: Topnikko on May 28, 2008, 06:33:08 PM
Did V&H make a stainless, or at least an unpainted pipe for the GS500?

I thought V&H was made of a low grade stainless steel that's prone to rust over a long period of time.  :dunno_white:
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: erbilabuc on May 28, 2008, 09:11:20 PM
Quote from: ben2go on May 28, 2008, 07:35:10 PM
Quote from: Topnikko on May 28, 2008, 06:33:08 PM
Did V&H make a stainless, or at least an unpainted pipe for the GS500?

I thought V&H was made of a low grade stainless steel that's prone to rust over a long period of time.  :dunno_white:

erroneous
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: ben2go on May 28, 2008, 09:26:20 PM
Quote from: erbilabuc on May 28, 2008, 09:11:20 PM
Quote from: ben2go on May 28, 2008, 07:35:10 PM
Quote from: Topnikko on May 28, 2008, 06:33:08 PM
Did V&H make a stainless, or at least an unpainted pipe for the GS500?

I thought V&H was made of a low grade stainless steel that's prone to rust over a long period of time.  :dunno_white:

erroneous

Why?Certain grades of stainless contain low consentrations of iron.Over time they rust.The company I was laid off from made food packing equipment and use low grades of stainless for the parts that aren't required to be high quality food prep stainless.It rust if it's left uncleaned or sitting outside.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: ATLRIDER on May 28, 2008, 10:59:04 PM
I just bought a bike with a full V&H, and yes the header pipe is rusted.  Am contemplating removing the rust through electrolysis and then painting with some Rustoleum BBQ paint.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: erbilabuc on May 29, 2008, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: ben2go on May 28, 2008, 09:26:20 PM
Quote from: erbilabuc on May 28, 2008, 09:11:20 PM
Quote from: ben2go on May 28, 2008, 07:35:10 PM
Quote from: Topnikko on May 28, 2008, 06:33:08 PM
Did V&H make a stainless, or at least an unpainted pipe for the GS500?

I thought V&H was made of a low grade stainless steel that's prone to rust over a long period of time.  :dunno_white:

erroneous

Why?Certain grades of stainless contain low consentrations of iron.Over time they rust.The company I was laid off from made food packing equipment and use low grades of stainless for the parts that aren't required to be high quality food prep stainless.It rust if it's left uncleaned or sitting outside.

Great but we are talking about two totally different thing. You are correlating something and that is like saying the wheels on my wheelbarrow are dry rotted after 2 months so that means the 200$ Pirellis on my CBR1000 are going to dry rot on it also after 2 months. If you have a V&H exhaust that is rusting that bad then it might not be a an actual V&H part. I had a suzuki Marauder 800 with a full V&H system on it. The bike was a 98 and the exhaust was 7 years old and besides swirl marks in the muffler it looked brand new. Could also be that some people just do not take care of their equipment as well as I do.
Title: Re: WTB: Aftermarket full exhaust system
Post by: ben2go on May 29, 2008, 01:37:29 PM
Quote from: erbilabuc on May 29, 2008, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: ben2go on May 28, 2008, 09:26:20 PM
Quote from: erbilabuc on May 28, 2008, 09:11:20 PM
Quote from: ben2go on May 28, 2008, 07:35:10 PM
Quote from: Topnikko on May 28, 2008, 06:33:08 PM
Did V&H make a stainless, or at least an unpainted pipe for the GS500?

I thought V&H was made of a low grade stainless steel that's prone to rust over a long period of time.  :dunno_white:

erroneous

Why?Certain grades of stainless contain low consentrations of iron.Over time they rust.The company I was laid off from made food packing equipment and use low grades of stainless for the parts that aren't required to be high quality food prep stainless.It rust if it's left uncleaned or sitting outside.

Great but we are talking about two totally different thing. You are correlating something and that is like saying the wheels on my wheelbarrow are dry rotted after 2 months so that means the 200$ Pirellis on my CBR1000 are going to dry rot on it also after 2 months. If you have a V&H exhaust that is rusting that bad then it might not be a an actual V&H part. I had a suzuki Marauder 800 with a full V&H system on it. The bike was a 98 and the exhaust was 7 years old and besides swirl marks in the muffler it looked brand new. Could also be that some people just do not take care of their equipment as well as I do.

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