Just letting you guys know ive found the max lean on the GS500f...... After continually scrappin the pegs..... There SOOO low lol i finally went one better....
Coming into left hander i really shoved the front into the turn , anyway the peg bolt slammed into the ground and the rear tyre slid abit..... anyway off i kep riding to work... When i arrived i inspected the peg cause it hit HARD!!! and to my suprise i found this:
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k88/l_t_smash/GS500scrape.jpg)
Yes thats right ive actually hit the lower left hand fairing.... I was quiet pissed off actually as i take good care of my bike and now its scratched :cry: Oh well will make for a good story.
And for anyone thats interested the STANDARD Bridgestones STILL had some grip left in them!!! Not much but i could have gone just a tad further...... And then TORn the fairing off LOL...... :dunno_white:
Anyway as for chicken stips :2guns: zero el nono :laugh:
you almost low sided dude, slow down !
i like a good lean just as much as the next guy, but man, c'mon :)
No way would I fancy that on stock Bridgestone Excederas but I'm impressed.
The Excedras were on the 02 and earlier models, the 04 and later F models came with the BT45s for oem tires.
Now you just need to work on body positioning. More body inside = less bike lean
Thats what i was thinking , when i lean, i hang off the bike , keeping the bike at a decent level , yet can have my knee down or close to , with out having a scrape , however , i think my belly pan is going to be taking the most of it
The tyres are BT45r OEM....
Was close to low side but as i said i could have pushed a tiny bit further.........
As for body position hows half way off the seat elbow almost touchin knee, knee a whisker from the ground (didnt have sliders on)
Any way i was just suprised that the tyres and suspension STOCK allowed me to turn FURTHER than what the fairings did..... I know the bike is a tourer and not really made fo what i put it through.... And as my RGV is off the track at the moment its all ive got!!!
Also Im not trying goin on about lean angles i know ppl get too caught up in them i was and still am still shocked :dunno_white:.....
Quote from: Average_Joe on June 02, 2008, 05:07:33 PM
The tyres are BT45r OEM....
Was close to low side but as i said i could have pushed a tiny bit further.........
As for body position hows half way off the seat elbow almost touchin knee, knee a whisker from the ground (didnt have sliders on)
Any way i was just suprised that the tyres and suspension STOCK allowed me to turn FURTHER than what the fairings did..... I know the bike is a tourer and not really made fo what i put it through.... And as my RGV is off the track at the moment its all ive got!!!
Also Im not trying goin on about lean angles i know ppl get too caught up in them i was and still am still shocked :dunno_white:.....
You've got an RGV ? Cool. I rode with one of those a month ago, super sexy bike. Check it:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/gs500zuki/SB4DcgCidCI/AAAAAAAABZ8/sY1L-gx5euw/DSCN1447.JPG?imgmax=576)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/gs500zuki/SB4DwACidGI/AAAAAAAABac/k8w258vvk1k/DSCN1451.JPG?imgmax=576)
Ah yes, Rotech7's bike.
But WOW, scraping a fairing in a turn, you NEED to slow down or it gon be SLIDE not lean.
I only worry about leaning too much too fast and going into a slide right off of a cliff. I want to get home in one piece. :icon_mrgreen:
NICE lucky strike.... like it :thumb:
Id get you a pic of mine but its in a few pieces at the moment :icon_lol:!!!! Rebuilding NOT crash lol :icon_rolleyes:
Any yes your right i guess i should tone it down on the road but when im not racing its like not having sex for a year!!!!!!
i've done that before going like 15mph -same exact marks too :laugh: no tire sliding though still had enough grip lol. i have a post about it somewhere on here asking for touch-up paint :laugh:
I scraped my pegs a few times from leaning too far. However, judging from my tires, the pegs actually limit how far I can lean over, since the edges of the tires are completely free of wear.
Is there any way to raise the pegs a bit, or at least shorten them down?
Joe
Post a picy up of your rear tire tread side view.
+1 BT45R's
Quote from: 510 on June 03, 2008, 01:09:01 AM
Is there any way to raise the pegs a bit, or at least shorten them down?
http://cgi.stanford.edu/~sanjayd/gs500/Upgrades/Pegs
Quote from: 08GSSteve on June 03, 2008, 06:34:36 AM
Joe
Post a picy up of your rear tire tread side view.
+1 BT45R's
Sorry about the crap quality but you get the point!!
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k88/l_t_smash/tyre1.jpg)
Unless you get the suspension done + remove the centre stand + aftermarket pipe + modify the fairing + bigger profile tyres you aint gonna go any further!!!!
i hate turning, it scares me. i have like 1 inch chicken strips.
yep thats to the edge for sure :thumb:
well done
thanks :cheers:
Now you know its possible have a go....... On a racetrack of course!!!! :thumb:
Speaking from personal experience, you want to avoid having anything that's not hinged (like the footpeg) hitting the ground, and you want to make sure that the footpeg is the first thing that hits, and ease up when it does. The margin for error is not great.
Embarrassing personal anecdote: my very first motorcycle came with a set of highway bars/case guards. I did not like the look, but I figured I'd screw up and drop the bike, so I'd leave them on for a while. Rode for a while. Had not dropped the bike yet (I MSFed before I started riding). One day I'm out having a fine time on the delightful twists of NY 327, and then my front wheel is off the ground, I'm sliding along the road, and the bike is sliding away in front of me. The highway bar was lower than the footpeg - when it hit the ground, it pried the front wheel off the road.
Bike hit the far ditch, flipped, bent the handlebar, dented the tank. I rode it home, stripped off the handlebar, ordered a replacement, beat on the tank a bit and painted a patch, and took the $#!&*!! highway bar off. I've been warning people about the hidden dangers of poorly designed accessories ever since - after all, I could have had oncoming traffic and a very different outcome.
That would also be a fine example of "leather works" (my jacket, boots, gloves) and "Denim doesn't" (road-rash on my butt.) Helmet didn't even touch. I ordered a pair of leather pants as well as the new bar.
[IDK why this profile thing says "local club racer" - I see nowhere to set it, and it should say "old guy that takes the bike to get groceries at the speed limit", or something like that.]
Quote from: DoD#i on June 05, 2008, 05:06:21 AM
[IDK why this profile thing says "local club racer" - I see nowhere to set it, and it should say "old guy that takes the bike to get groceries at the speed limit", or something like that.]
[Those are default titles that change automatically according to the number of posts you have contributed.]
Quote from: DoD#i on June 05, 2008, 05:06:21 AM
Speaking from personal experience, you want to avoid having anything that's not hinged (like the footpeg) hitting the ground, and you want to make sure that the footpeg is the first thing that hits, and ease up when it does. The margin for error is not great.
Embarrassing personal anecdote: my very first motorcycle came with a set of highway bars/case guards. I did not like the look, but I figured I'd screw up and drop the bike, so I'd leave them on for a while. Rode for a while. Had not dropped the bike yet (I MSFed before I started riding). One day I'm out having a fine time on the delightful twists of NY 327, and then my front wheel is off the ground, I'm sliding along the road, and the bike is sliding away in front of me. The highway bar was lower than the footpeg - when it hit the ground, it pried the front wheel off the road.
Bike hit the far ditch, flipped, bent the handlebar, dented the tank. I rode it home, stripped off the handlebar, ordered a replacement, beat on the tank a bit and painted a patch, and took the $#!&*!! highway bar off. I've been warning people about the hidden dangers of poorly designed accessories ever since - after all, I could have had oncoming traffic and a very different outcome.
I'm actually very interested in people's opinions about case guards now, because I bought a set of these (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=32714.0) and installed them last fall. Now I'm wondering if that was a smart idea - it'll protect the engine in the event of a lowside, but if I'm riding aggressively it might make a lowside more likely...
Anyone have thoughts or opinions on this? The guards do stick out from the body quite a bit because of how beefy they are - in hindsight I would have preferred guards that stayed very close to the side of the engine.
I have those, one is cracked however, and they have to come off soon to put my chin spoiler on.
Some people put frame sliders on nakeds even though they are for faired bikes. Just an idea, thewy are neater and closer. You can get them for the front of the frame and also the swingarm on some bikes, only a couple are made that will fit a GS.
Quote from: 505 on June 05, 2008, 01:36:53 AM
i hate turning, it scares me. i have like 1 inch chicken strips.
Ihave chicken strips but thats because of the foot pegs. As the foot pegs wear down, the chicken strips get thinner.
Quote from: asobi on June 05, 2008, 10:42:13 AM
I'm actually very interested in people's opinions about case guards now, because I bought a set of these (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=32714.0) and installed them last fall. Now I'm wondering if that was a smart idea - it'll protect the engine in the event of a lowside, but if I'm riding aggressively it might make a lowside more likely...
Anyone have thoughts or opinions on this? The guards do stick out from the body quite a bit because of how beefy they are - in hindsight I would have preferred guards that stayed very close to the side of the engine.
I dunno. :dunno_white: Me thinks we needs a guinea-pig. Any volunteers? (Maybe whoever has them...)
Quote from: asobi on June 05, 2008, 10:42:13 AM
Quote from: DoD#i on June 05, 2008, 05:06:21 AM
Speaking from personal experience, you want to avoid having anything that's not hinged (like the footpeg) hitting the ground, and you want to make sure that the footpeg is the first thing that hits, and ease up when it does. The margin for error is not great.
I've been warning people about the hidden dangers of poorly designed accessories ever since - after all, I could have had oncoming traffic and a very different outcome.
I'm actually very interested in people's opinions about case guards now, because I bought a set of these (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=32714.0) and installed them last fall. Now I'm wondering if that was a smart idea - it'll protect the engine in the event of a lowside, but if I'm riding aggressively it might make a lowside more likely...
Anyone have thoughts or opinions on this? The guards do stick out from the body quite a bit because of how beefy they are - in hindsight I would have preferred guards that stayed very close to the side of the engine.
Hm, I just received my SW-Motech Case Guards. I have no interest in guinea pigging them to see what happens if they drag on turns. Has anyone else had problems with case guards causing a low side? I'd reconsider using them..
I don't blame ya... reconsidering sounds a sensible idea given the risks.
Well, as long as someone supplies the bike I'll be the test monkey 8)
I don't worry about my lean angle, I just go around the curve. But then I have chicken stripes. :icon_mrgreen:
I still enjoy my ride. :cheers:
Gaspy, are those the 3 point case guards? If they are and you decide not to use them, I would be interested in taking them off your hands.
Be safe
PJ
Ugh i try to scrape my knee or even the pegs once but it always feels like my rear tire is slipping when i lean too far over. I have hit the edge of my tire once or twice but no pegs hitting or knee. I also have a larger tire on the stock rims
i touch down but not so much since i got my woodcraft rearsets....just be careful and make sure your tires are warm :)
If you are scraping hard parts on a GS500 on the street, then you 100% have shitty body position. Get some instruction or read Twist of the Wrist II (by Keith Code) or something before you wipeout