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Main Area => General GS500 Discussion => Topic started by: Mdow on June 29, 2008, 08:41:32 AM

Poll
Question: Split the forum up into catigories
Option 1: Yes split it up votes: 14
Option 2: No leave it all in one votes: 11
Title: Redo the forum?
Post by: Mdow on June 29, 2008, 08:41:32 AM
This is just a suggestion i know im new to this forum but i live on RS25.com

personally general diss is a huge cluster of stuff.

make some new subforums

maybe have

powertrain
wheels/tires
brakes and suspension
troubleshoot
body work
will it fit
pictures/vid
story times

im just getting into GS500s and its hard to read threw and find what info on things im looking for. the FAQ i good but i just want to look at motor work sometimes and its a pain to find information on it with out searching for very detailed things and im looking for the big picture

plus sometimes there is 2 pages of posts from one day

just a thought
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: trumpetguy on June 29, 2008, 09:05:59 AM
Good suggestions.    I agree with most of it, and I hope that recent discussions have gotten the mods thinking about reorganization.

I would prefer "Troubleshoot," "will it fit, " and "pictures/vid" posts placed in the area to which they are related.  For example engine troubleshooting posts would belong in Powertrain.  Electrical troubleshooting in Electrical and Lighting, etc.

My list would look like:
Powertrain
Wheels and Tires
Brakes and Suspension
Electrical and Lighting
Body Work and Seats
Trip Reports
For Sale/Trade
Meet and Greet
Odds and Ends
Test
Tard Farm


Move FAQS and sticky posts into the area to which they relate, with a WIKI link in each category.
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: mach1 on June 29, 2008, 10:01:51 AM
too much sections I think the board is fine the way it is.
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: GeeP on June 29, 2008, 10:56:51 AM
I could see that if we had 10,000 members and a million posts a day.

The search function works fine if you know the right questions to ask.   :)

<---  Set in his ways.  Bah Humbug!   :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: scottpA_GS on June 29, 2008, 11:11:42 AM

Yea, not to bash you but you are a but new to suggest changes to the site. I think its fine the way it is  :thumb:

A little less sticky's though, they have never been dealt with after some "moderators" said they would fix them  :nono:
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: starwalt on June 29, 2008, 12:56:18 PM
I understand your suggestions and they are completely valid. At some point in time the amount of information here will require some rework. This is the General Discussion area and as such technical items tend to get tangled up in the hum-drum and silly at times.

The GS Wiki is a little more pointed to subject matter though it does require someone to sift through the general posts and link back to them. The FAQs are targeted to subject matter though they are made by the moderators (from outstanding general posts BTW).

If you have the time, motivation, and skillz, perhaps you could make a page that targets the GSTwin posts by subject matter as you suggest?

Is is a free site so nothing here should be a copyright issue -- unless someone posts copyrighted material.  That, of course, never happens in internetworld.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: SIKDMAX on June 29, 2008, 01:26:12 PM
Ever thought about an upgrade to a more current forum software?
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: ben2go on June 29, 2008, 02:05:00 PM
This was brought up a few months back and nothing came of it,so I gave up.  :dunno_white:

Good luck with your endevour.
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: oobyscoot on June 29, 2008, 02:23:59 PM
Maybe a few more sections but not too many,

WORKSHOP,
HINTS AND TIPS,
RIDE OUTS,
BIKE CHAT,
GENERAL STUFF,
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: Mdow on June 29, 2008, 02:41:37 PM
its just some ideas it just sucks to go threw one secontion with tons of random stuff. storys of ride troubleshooting will this fit post.  its just not any fun to just cruz threw and read post

its just to much of a cluster of stuff i think

maybe 3 sections

storys
troubleshoot
wrenching and pics

i realy think a trouble shoot page is needed it would help everyone get there problems seen and not skipped over
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: arbakken on June 29, 2008, 06:44:35 PM
just because the forum kind of works the way it is doesn't mean that it couldn't be better. I've been a member of many forums, and one in particular split apart like that. I was opposed to the change at first, but after a week or two, I wouldn't go back. It would definitely be a boost for the forum. If we want to copy the forum of our bikes' father, check out www.thegsresources.com/
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: SIKDMAX on June 29, 2008, 07:51:08 PM
Link to their forum: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/index.php

Boy it sure would be nice if it was switched over to VBulletin - much easier to follow and read - and many more features than this current board setup.

Looks like the overwhelming majority in the poll agree as well..........

Thoughts o powers that be? 
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: bombadillo on June 29, 2008, 07:56:24 PM
I'd say its time for a change too.  Its a good forum, and low post count daily so its easy to follow things, but for people looking for info, it would definitely help.
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: Mdow on June 29, 2008, 08:20:30 PM
ya i hope nobady gets the feeling like im trying to join up and throw piles of changes at if cause im currently fighting on RS25 to keep if from changing but i think all the changes that are being made are far from helpfull.  and all that seems to be changing is collors and pulling out sweet fetures and changing the classified system eventho the majority vote has been not to change it the new site owner owns i think 9 sites now and is just trying to make money off them and that allso gets on my nerves

Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: dgyver on June 29, 2008, 08:28:25 PM
Second time this month? Mods/Admins rarely comment on topics like this.

The software was upgraded in Dec 2005/Jan 2006, I believe it was a forced upgrade. With the problems then, I doubt you will see a change. I see nothing wrong with the layout except for the default black skin, which I do not use.

There are plenty of posts in the wrong forums now. I would hate to see where new topics get started with more forums... more work for the mods to clean them up.

Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: arbakken on June 30, 2008, 07:47:42 AM
you're always going to have morons on a forum, but I hardly think it would be more work. If it's too much of a load, add a mod. Just split the 'General GS500 Discussion' into:

Technical Info
Appearance Mods
Performance Mods

it's not overly complicated, and would make forum navigation and finding info so much easier.
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: Jay_wolf on June 30, 2008, 12:36:54 PM
Im not being Funny , but say i need i want to look at Dgyver and Bens thread on rebuilding kat forks , * i no where it is but beside the point*

That SEARCH bar up there            Kat Fork Rebuild. it will come up ., Say i want to know how Turd does the 4.5 wheel swop      Katana Wheel Swop

Search is there for Threads u really want to see , Just use Keywords and it will come up , there are posts that are years and years old , and u have easy find them to solve a problem

The forum is fine and i have no trouble finding infomation

Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: Mdow on June 30, 2008, 12:51:52 PM
how about search for pics of modded bikes to get an idea and schem up a goal for my new bike?

or see common reacuring problems

or if i just feel like reading about peoples rides or funny trip storyies what do i search for to read about interesting and amusing ride storyies?

and what about mods that i don't know you can even do.  what do i search for? "things i don't know about my bike"? i got a feeling that will come up pretty short

also by that logic all your clothes in your room should be in one box.  why sort it out? just search threw it when you need somthing its all there

Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: Jay_wolf on June 30, 2008, 12:55:19 PM
Well if u want to explain to the police why i dont have any clothes on , and i say , well i didnt want to have to search for something to wear , id prefer it to be handed to me , then thats fine.
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: Mdow on June 30, 2008, 12:59:23 PM
also notice that the people who don't mind it to all be in one pile are people who have been here for a while AKA they don't need the pile that much.  the newer people to the forum who havn't read the whole pile have no place to start to read the pile.

you being naked isn't the problem there were lots of cloths you just didn't take the time to search threw it all.  just as i don't see why it makes sence for me to flip threw years of post to find pictures of bikes to see what colors i like and what mods have been done
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: Mdow on June 30, 2008, 01:00:12 PM
and that would be 263,000 and some post in general only
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: mojonixon on June 30, 2008, 02:34:32 PM
you know.....oh never mind, good luck Mdow
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: mojonixon on June 30, 2008, 02:41:31 PM
I went to GS resources and it is like a few other forums I go to, I like it and it would be a big improvemnet over what is here now.
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: SIKDMAX on June 30, 2008, 03:18:04 PM
I had a long reply typed out but just deleted it - its not worth arguing as the old fogies are set in their ways and wont change.

Maybe its time for some competition.....  let the people decide for themselves.
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: ben2go on June 30, 2008, 03:39:47 PM
If you guys want a change,start your on forum.I'll visit from time to time.That's all I can add at this point.Sorry if I anger some people,but this was shot down once in the very recent past.
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: starwalt on June 30, 2008, 07:20:39 PM
I remember a post by the owner, many moons ago, about the use of this forum.
Essentially out of a bazillion registered members, waaaay less than .01% were active.

I exaggerate, but the point is that there aren't enough people having a problem to justify messing with a working thing. Plenty of newbs get what they want as it is. This isn't a retail store and customer satisfaction is really the customer's responsibility in this marketplace.

There is a breakoff page, I mentioned it earlier, that links back to this forum and is more topical for new visitors or members. This works as well as it does because of the people that contribute to it.

What do you expect for free? Otherwise, is anyone willing to pay for the knowledge and experience those of us who have contributed have provided out of the goodness of our hearts?

As I mentioned before, compete away. Competition is a good thing. Many will help.

But be warned. If you succeed, someone eventually will start bitching about the way you run your forum. "There's not enough VR engine tuning and the active threading is not as good as GS Galaxy 3000".

Nuff said.
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: Mdow on June 30, 2008, 07:52:13 PM
almost every forum is free.

i have almost no motovation to log on and look around cause it just a pain to use.

maybe if things were beter sorted out there would be more active members
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: arbakken on July 01, 2008, 12:13:37 AM
it's rather frustrating to see the complete lack of discussion on the part of people set in their ways. You should have seen all the hell that was raised when i suggested that the Ninja250 forum change to something that was remotely useable (have you seen the thing!!!) but most forums are split up as such, and it's for a reason. I don't think there should be 100 sub forums, but a few would be good, to keep the clutter down and keep applicable active topics on the front page. It might not have been an issue in the past, but as forums grow as this one most certainly is, changes need to be made. A better analogy than the clothes one is this: A two lane road is just fine with limited traffic, but when the traffic gets too much for the road, you just get jams. Sooner or later you'll need a 4 lane road
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: ecpreston on July 01, 2008, 06:23:40 AM
The laundry and road analogies are great and all....  :icon_razz: but IMO, this forum isn't yet at the point where it needs to be split up. You can log in every other day and there's not even a full page of new posts (if the hug amount of stickies wasn't taking up half the page!). So now, if I want to catch up, I just scroll, and one click to page 2. If there were 3, 5, N subforums, I'd have to click on each subforum to catch up, taking more time. Inevitably, people start not looking at the extra subforums if they're not active or the topic isn't usually their cup of tea. Then, you post a question in the right subforum, it's something a few people could have answered, but they're not looking at that one anymore, and fewer heads get together to come up with a solution.

I've seen some otherwise useful forums get fractured by too many subforums. I have to click 10 different places to read maybe 10 new posts. Fun! Obviously a forum has to be split up at some point, I just don't think we're there yet.

If I had only 10 articles of clothing, I would keep them in a single pile.

If I had 10 cars per day, I'd keep the road 1 lane.

I vote we wait until there are about double the active posts/people/cars/clothes we have now. :cheers:
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: ben2go on July 01, 2008, 10:42:37 AM
Quote from: arbakken on July 01, 2008, 12:13:37 AM
it's rather frustrating to see the complete lack of discussion on the part of people set in their ways. You should have seen all the hell that was raised when i suggested that the Ninja250 forum change to something that was remotely useable (have you seen the thing!!!) but most forums are split up as such, and it's for a reason. I don't think there should be 100 sub forums, but a few would be good, to keep the clutter down and keep applicable active topics on the front page. It might not have been an issue in the past, but as forums grow as this one most certainly is, changes need to be made. A better analogy than the clothes one is this: A two lane road is just fine with limited traffic, but when the traffic gets too much for the road, you just get jams. Sooner or later you'll need a 4 lane road


Are you saying that you go around trying to change forums,because you think they need to be changed?  :dunno_white: I think maybe I'm confused.  :icon_confused: Are you a forum specialist that does charity work?  :dunno_white: Yea,I'm confused.Nothing new about that.
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: dchrist on July 01, 2008, 12:10:43 PM
um... only 22 people voted on this bad boy... seems like a non issue. thats even if voting should count for anything here (which is a better debate btw)(ps. for the odds and ends section)...

this is not a democracy. we should all say thanks to the creators and the mods.

is it really that bad?  :dunno_white:

can we please stop
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just sayin.
Title: Re: Redo the forum?
Post by: arbakken on July 01, 2008, 02:44:23 PM
Quote from: ben2go on July 01, 2008, 10:42:37 AM
Are you saying that you go around trying to change forums,because you think they need to be changed?  :dunno_white: I think maybe I'm confused.  :icon_confused: Are you a forum specialist that does charity work?  :dunno_white: Yea,I'm confused.Nothing new about that.

No, I'm someone who is frustrated when things are done in a less than optimal way just because that's the way it was done before and someone said so.

I'm not saying this forum is bad by any means, merely that it could be improved. Either way, I've voiced my opinion, so I'm done. I hope the owner/mod/admins take this idea into consideration