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Title: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Jackstand Johnny on July 02, 2008, 03:31:42 AM
I really like the look of these streetfighters with no side fairings, but underneath mine are all sorts of wires and other contraptions. How do you hide these away to reveal the bare frame? Thanks a bunch in advance!
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: TheTazZ on July 02, 2008, 06:58:18 AM
I guess theres as many solutions to such a problem as there is people doing mods...
Could run the wires inside the frame, could make brackets to hold the wires up against the seat and out of view...
Maybe move some of the components up under the tank to clean up the rear?
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: scottpA_GS on July 02, 2008, 07:11:11 AM
Here is what Fry  Did

(http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/34216/2066343850073478356S600x600Q85.jpg)

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=42471.0
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: ben2go on July 02, 2008, 07:19:15 AM
The little black boxes need to be mounted with the cooling fins pointing up.If not,they will become saturated with heat and die a miserable death.Quick too.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Jackstand Johnny on July 02, 2008, 02:22:04 PM
The fined box on the right side of the frame? The fins are pointed straight outward on mine, it's fine as log as its not upside down then? Also, I have no fabrication tools. No welder, cutter, no nothing so I was hoping to find a place to put it all without having to fabricate brackets and such. I'm basically looking for a place to hide all this stuff on a bone stock bike. Thanks though, as what youve shown me is ecactly what I'm talking about and yall have given me a few ideas.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: ben2go on July 02, 2008, 02:24:25 PM
Quote from: SecondsFromTheFall on July 02, 2008, 02:22:04 PM
The fined box on the right side of the frame? The fins are pointed straight outward on mine, it's fine as log as its not upside down then? Also, I have no fabrication tools. No welder, cutter, no nothing so I was hoping to find a place to put it all without having to fabricate brackets and such. I'm basically looking for a place to hide all this stuff on a bone stock bike. Thanks though, as what youve shown me is ecactly what I'm talking about and yall have given me a few ideas.

As long as the black box stays like it is or the fins up.You'll have no problems.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Fry on July 02, 2008, 03:28:40 PM
Quote from: scottpA_GS on July 02, 2008, 07:11:11 AM
Here is what Fry  Did

(http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/34216/2066343850073478356S600x600Q85.jpg)

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=42471.0

Scott thanks for the credit, certainly appreciated however, that rats nest of wiring is purely mocked up it will be much much neater.

CDI and any type of load equalizer for the rear lights or what not will go in the tray I made. The Flasher Relay and the other similarly shaped item will now be mounted as viewed in the picture. The finned metal box(Rectifier?) will be mounted fins out, centered on the back of my relocated battery box. All the wiring to these devices as well as the rest of the loom, will be shortened/lengthened to best be able to hide it in a very neat and tidy manner.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Jackstand Johnny on July 03, 2008, 11:19:03 AM
Is there any other good place to mount that fined box besides a custon relocated battery box? again, I don't really have the means to custom fabricate a bunch of stuff. I'm basically going to have to have someone else do the fabrication who has the know-how. All I know how to do is cut/grind and tear things apart. I don't have a welder or any tools to make brackets or anything. Thanks.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Jackstand Johnny on July 04, 2008, 09:56:11 AM
Bump, I'd really like to hear some more ideas.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Fry on July 04, 2008, 12:20:33 PM
Give me some pics of your bike and the general area of where your electrics are and I'll see if I can offer any advice.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Fry on July 04, 2008, 01:11:09 PM
The thing is a lot of the Street Fighters on this site have some sort of Custom Rear Sub Frame or Rails that replace the stock ones.

When you remove your stock side panels to expose the stock sub frame your exposing the area where everything can reside peacefully.  Without doing custom rails, your going to have to do some Fab work or creative re routing, lengthening or shortening of wiring looms in order to hide and mount these items in other locations than the standard area.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: The Buddha on July 04, 2008, 07:16:48 PM
Let me get this straight ... you want to build a streetfighter, without any fabrication ?
That is a straight up oxymoron.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Jackstand Johnny on July 04, 2008, 11:21:16 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on July 04, 2008, 07:16:48 PM
Let me get this straight ... you want to build a streetfighter, without any fabrication ?
That is a straight up oxymoron.
Cool.
Buddha.

No, what I'm saying is I DONT HAVE THE MEANS TO WORK METAL MYSELF. I'm looking for simpler ideas than "just build a battery box from nothing, relocate it, and mount things to it". I'd like to get as far along as I can with the project before having to go to a fabricator.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Fry on July 05, 2008, 04:47:39 AM
Unless you can fabricate, then you really cannot get to far, sorry but it's the truth.

If all your going to be doing is moving one part from location A to Location B, or trying to you're going to get really frustrated and not get to far.

All the electronics are purposely built for the locations they reside at, so if you try moving them you wont have many options unless you create new mounting points or locations. After all if you take the side panels off your pretty wide open without much of anywhere to hide things.

The above wasn't a knock against you, just the way it is.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Jackstand Johnny on July 05, 2008, 11:17:26 AM
All the electronics are purposely built for the locations they reside at, so if you try moving them you wont have many options unless you create new mounting points or locations. After all if you take the side panels off your pretty wide open without much of anywhere to hide things.

This is what I wanted to know. I know it wasn't a personal attack against me, but my lack of fabrication skill is an obvious shortcoming that erks my nerves when others make more obvious. I DO have an idea though, I want to fabricate(from abs plastic) a new rear inner fender that sits flush with the lines of the subframe. It will make more room for the wires and such on the inside of the frame rather than the outside. It wont take much more than cutting plastic, and drilling new holes for things to go. Then I want buy a rear higger, or make one from the old rear inner fender to keep crud from flying up on the new plastic. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Fry on July 05, 2008, 12:31:20 PM
Brilliant Idea....Pictures please.

I plan on using my old inner fender panel to create a hugger as well.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: ben2go on July 05, 2008, 04:36:47 PM
Quote from: Fry on July 05, 2008, 12:31:20 PM
Brilliant Idea....Pictures please.

I plan on using my old inner fender panel to create a hugger as well.


Damn!I been keeping this under my hat.I got an old inner wheel well from a wrecked GS.I was planning to make a hugger out of it.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: The Buddha on July 05, 2008, 05:06:25 PM
Better than the GS inner fender is a fender from a bike that has a 130 or so front wheel. Lots of modern cruisers - You have to trim etc, but they have mounts etc in the right location and they have decent wind resistance.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: ben2go on July 05, 2008, 05:15:22 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on July 05, 2008, 05:06:25 PM
Better than the GS inner fender is a fender from a bike that has a 130 or so front wheel. Lots of modern cruisers - You have to trim etc, but they have mounts etc in the right location and they have decent wind resistance.
Cool.
Buddha.


:cookoo: I have a 160-60-17 rear tire.It would be to narrow.My tire BARELY fits inside the swing arm.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: The Buddha on July 05, 2008, 06:50:18 PM
K well, You must put the right skinny ass 130 back on it then  :bs:
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: ben2go on July 05, 2008, 09:30:37 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on July 05, 2008, 06:50:18 PM
K well, You must put the right skinny ass 130 back on it then  :bs:
Cool.
Buddha.


What do ya mean  :bs: ?

Here's a pic.Dgyver and Starwalt have both seen my bike in person.Me no understando.


I know the back tire looks like it's sitting left.I've measured it and it centered.Checked the swing arma and it's straight.Looking at it in person it's straight.Must be my shatty cam phone or the photograhper.
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/Motorcycle%20Stuff/1989%20GS500%20Build/0626081656a.jpg)
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Jackstand Johnny on July 06, 2008, 03:54:53 AM
Quote from: ben2go on July 05, 2008, 04:36:47 PM
Quote from: Fry on July 05, 2008, 12:31:20 PM
Brilliant Idea....Pictures please.

I plan on using my old inner fender panel to create a hugger as well.


Damn!I been keeping this under my hat.I got an old inner wheel well from a wrecked GS.I was planning to make a hugger out of it.

Sorry, didn't mean to let the cat out of the bag. Basically the only reason I'd use the rear inner fender off mine is because it's free.
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Fry on July 06, 2008, 05:49:27 AM
Quote from: ben2go on July 05, 2008, 09:30:37 PM
Quote from: The Buddha on July 05, 2008, 06:50:18 PM
K well, You must put the right skinny ass 130 back on it then  :bs:
Cool.
Buddha.


What do ya mean  :bs: ?

Here's a pic.Dgyver and Starwalt have both seen my bike in person.Me no understando.


I think he meant to fit his idea of using a modern cruiser front fender, you'd have to put back on a skinnier tire in the rear than you have mounted.

I know the back tire looks like it's sitting left.I've measured it and it centered.Checked the swing arma and it's straight.Looking at it in person it's straight.Must be my shatty cam phone or the photograhper.
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/ben_2_go/Motorcycle%20Stuff/1989%20GS500%20Build/0626081656a.jpg)
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Jackstand Johnny on July 12, 2008, 05:54:39 PM
Im thinking on using the bottom of a rubbermaid tub since I can find any sheet plastic for my rear fender. What do yall think?
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: TheTazZ on July 12, 2008, 06:03:35 PM
Using some standard fender as a base for a hugger - easy, straightforward and always in plain sight...
Why the heck didn't i think of that  :dunno_white:
Now lets see some pics ;)
Title: Re: How do you hide the wires on your rear subrframe? (streetfighter)
Post by: Jackstand Johnny on July 14, 2008, 03:41:43 AM
I'm working on it today. I didn't mean the bottom of a rubbermaid tub, I ment the side. I went to wal-mart and bought a 13 gallon trash can for $12.50, made a template, and hacked up the can with a dremel( great invention). I WILL make this happen with no metal fab work minus a reciprocating saw. I also WILL post pics when I'm done. As for the brake light, turn signals, and license plate bracket...I'm just gonna cut that part of the old rear fender off and stick it right back on until I can figure something better out.