Ever noticed how on some spec sheets the earlier GS500's are listed at 52hp and the later ones, like post 96 or so, are listed at 47hp? Why is that?
Oh yea, the earlier ones were the best 89-95 made in japan, then in 96 they made them in mexico, and after 04 they are made out of mud and sticks :thumb:
Oh yea, all of them are monday morning assembly jobs, they come with lots of loose parts, with missing bolts, and some even have missing engines and wheels ... Needless to say they never put any real suspension parts in it by design, so you're usually good there ... :thumb:.
As soon as you buy it, you gotta replace 1/2 the bike, the next month, replace the other 1/2.
Then go for a ride.
Cool.
Buddha.
I've never seen a stock GS rated over 40hp.If you're finding this on line post the links.A stock GS don't make that much power even with upgrades.
96 made in Mexico? Not according to the sticker on my 96, made 11/95. Made in Japan. :thumb:
My '01 was 34HP at the wheel.
http://www.suzukicycles.org/GS-series/GS500E.shtml someone could be getting Hp and Kw mixed up
Metric Horses? :laugh:
Quote from: GeeP on July 09, 2008, 05:55:15 PM
96 made in Mexico? Not according to the sticker on my 96, made 11/95. Made in Japan. :thumb:
That is till 12/95 ... then ... crapola.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on July 09, 2008, 06:42:07 PM
Quote from: GeeP on July 09, 2008, 05:55:15 PM
96 made in Mexico? Not according to the sticker on my 96, made 11/95. Made in Japan. :thumb:
That is till 12/95 ... then ... crapola.
Cool.
Buddha.
Oooooohhh. So I have one of the LAST GOOD GS-E's right? Man, I should charge more for it! :) :flipoff:
I thought the latest Es and all the Fs were made in Spain.
What's up with this "reduced effect" version(27hp), here it's listed for 1991:
http://motoprofi.com/motospecspictures/suzuki/gs_500_e_reduced_effect-1991.html
How do you tell them apart?
Could be a restricted "Learner special" with a reduced power output to cater for certain European markets and their laws.
Quote from: sledge on July 09, 2008, 06:16:38 PM
http://www.suzukicycles.org/GS-series/GS500E.shtml someone could be getting Hp and Kw mixed up
dunno according to your own link, seems there are some differences of HP/Nm through the years.
1980 46 hp
1991 52 hp (38 kW)/ 9.200 rpm, 41 Nm (4.2 kg-m)/ 7.500 rpm.
1993 52 hp (38 kW)/ 9.200 rpm, 41 Nm (4.2 kg-m)/ 7.500 rpm.
1994 52 hp (38 kW)/ 9.200 rpm, 41 Nm (4.2 kg-m)/ 7.500 rpm.
1995 52 hp (38 kW)/ 9.200 rpm, 41 Nm (4.2 kg-m)/ 7.500 rpm.
1996 52 hp (38 kW)/ 9.200 rpm, 41 Nm (4.2 kg-m)/ 7.500 rpm.
1998 47 hp (34.3 kW)/ 9,200 rpm, 40 Nm/ 7,400 rpm.
1999 47 hp (34.3 kW)/ 9,200 rpm, 40 Nm/ 7,400 rpm
2000 47 hp (34.3 kW)/ 9,200 rpm, 40 Nm/ 7,400 rpm
2001 47,7 hp (35,1 kW)/ 9.200 rpm, 40,2 Nm/ 7.500 rpm
2002 47 hp (34.3 kW)/ 9,200 rpm, 40 Nm/ 7,400 rpm
2003 47 hp (34.3 kW)/ 9,200 rpm, 40 Nm/ 7,400 rpm
hahahahaaha! My GS has more power than your GS's! :flipoff: :icon_mrgreen:
When did they change the stock jet sizes? Wasn't it beginning in '97?
My crappy 'n shiny '08 was made in Spain, where the rain falls mainly upon the plane.
I believe its MOM noted something in the neighborhood of 40+ horses, but I bet the torque curve looks a loy like Pike's Peak at about 6,000 to 7,000 revs
prs
My bike don't make no 47 to 52hp with rejet,K&N lunchbox,and D&D exhaust.My engine is in top condition. :icon_rolleyes: 39-40hp I could see but 47+. :dunno_white:
isnt that rating also at the crank with 0 miles? under prime conditions?
and that chart is missing my 1990!!!
Quote from: ben2go on July 10, 2008, 02:11:02 PM
My bike don't make no 47 to 52hp with rejet,K&N lunchbox,and D&D exhaust.My engine is in top condition. :icon_rolleyes: 39-40hp I could see but 47+. :dunno_white:
you realize that 47HP is calculated as engine on a rack, measuring the output on the shaft with no load on it..
so on a wheel dynowith a rider, I would expect anywhere between 38-45HP is probably your "on the ground HP"
there is a huge amount of losses in power once assembled, vibrations of engine in bike assembly, transmission, clutches, chain, gears etc all are a part in losses in power before it actually hits the pavement.
cheers
Quote from: pbureau69 on July 10, 2008, 02:53:57 PM
Quote from: ben2go on July 10, 2008, 02:11:02 PM
My bike don't make no 47 to 52hp with rejet,K&N lunchbox,and D&D exhaust.My engine is in top condition. :icon_rolleyes: 39-40hp I could see but 47+. :dunno_white:
you realize that 47HP is calculated as engine on a rack, measuring the output on the shaft with no load on it..
so on a wheel dynowith a rider, I would expect anywhere between 38-45HP is probably your "on the ground HP"
there is a huge amount of losses in power once assembled, vibrations of engine in bike assembly, transmission, clutches, chain, gears etc all are a part in losses in power before it actually hits the pavement.
cheers
Yea I know about drive line losses,but even on an engine dyno I don't think my bike is making 40 hp at the crank.I've built enough engines to know my engine is weak.
one mans weak is another mans busa
yeap...
while i think my ol 250 is a snail...
my 115lb sister thinks its fast
I know that most of us only know about the forum, but gstwin.com also has a main page, that main page has a dyno run on it, and that dyno run is for a 1999 GS500e with a rejet and exhaust. HP was 43.2 at around 9,000rpm, and 27.2 ft/lb at around 7,800rpm at the wheel.
Info found here (http://gstwin.com/dyno_run.htm).
Quote from: oramac on July 10, 2008, 07:49:16 PM
I know that most of us only know about the forum, but gstwin.com also has a main page, that main page has a dyno run on it, and that dyno run is for a 1999 GS500e with a rejet and exhaust. HP was 43.2 at around 9,000rpm, and 27.2 ft/lb at around 7,800rpm at the wheel.
Info found here (http://gstwin.com/dyno_run.htm).
Yea I saw that but that's on a dyno,inside with fans pointed at the engine,and very little load.
Quote from: ben2go on July 10, 2008, 11:07:59 PM
Yea I saw that but that's on a dyno,inside with fans pointed at the engine,and very little load.
??? Little load, big load. It doesn't matter. The bike makes the same hp regardless of the 'load'. If it's a 350 lb. man going up hill, or a 100 lb man going down hill with the wind at his back, it's the same 42 hp. Obviously, 42 hp will motivate a smaller load more quickly, but the power remains the same. Anyway, if it's 25 hp or 55 hp, it'll go fast enough to kill you, so :dunno_white:.
Quote from: oramac on July 11, 2008, 12:10:44 AM
Quote from: ben2go on July 10, 2008, 11:07:59 PM
Yea I saw that but that's on a dyno,inside with fans pointed at the engine,and very little load.
??? Little load, big load. It doesn't matter. The bike makes the same hp regardless of the 'load'.
CORRECT!
Quote from: The Buddha on July 09, 2008, 06:42:07 PM
Quote from: GeeP on July 09, 2008, 05:55:15 PM
96 made in Mexico? Not according to the sticker on my 96, made 11/95. Made in Japan. :thumb:
That is till 12/95 ... then ... crapola.
Cool.
Buddha.
Probably a moot point at this point, but that must be why my 2001 says Made in Japan. :kiss3:
'01, made in Japan, Euro-spec, 32.7 kW (= 44 hp) here.
Quote from: skynxnex on July 11, 2008, 06:26:51 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on July 09, 2008, 06:42:07 PM
Quote from: GeeP on July 09, 2008, 05:55:15 PM
96 made in Mexico? Not according to the sticker on my 96, made 11/95. Made in Japan. :thumb:
That is till 12/95 ... then ... crapola.
Cool.
Buddha.
Probably a moot point at this point, but that must be why my 2001 says Made in Japan. :kiss3:
It is made in japan from mud and sticks and clay. That is what makes the most power though.
OK OK, like its sticker than says made in Japan is made in Japan, but all the little widgets are all made in china.
OK OK, fine, its made in spain after 04, but Japan before that. However the percentage of chineese and korean parts have been ever increasing especially after 96.
Cool.
Buddha.
The K7 GS500F I have was made in Spain, using Japanese parts, I believe.
The bike is rated 47bhp according to the official Suzuki website and has to be restricted to 33bhp in the UK, if the rider has a restricted licence. This restriction lasts for 2 years thereafter, the bike can be restored to 47bhp.
Quote from: NEWGS500F on July 14, 2008, 11:48:14 AM
The K7 GS500F I have was made in Spain, using Japanese parts, I believe.
The bike is rated 47bhp according to the official Suzuki website and has to be restricted to 33bhp in the UK, if the rider has a restricted licence. This restriction lasts for 2 years thereafter, the bike can be restored to 47bhp.
actually I am on the french GStwin forum and they have the "new rider rule" that restrict HP to 33/34HP "bridee" (bridaled..humm sounds like a bad wedding to me)... so I guess it applies for them as well.
meh i don't care about the hp...i'd still kick all your ass's :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh:
What I really find funny tho, is stupid people in cars mistaking the GS500F (like mine) for a Gixxer...its possibly that front stacked headlight and from the front (and to a layman) there are similarities....anyways, some people feel they just MUST rip the GSXR (or what they think is a GSXR)..........makes it all the sweeter when they are nothing more than a small dot in the wing mirror, as I casually pass without breaking too much sweat (or laws :icon_mrgreen:) with nothing more than a "33 bhp" :thumb:
Its not really the bike that causes drivers to think this way, its just the fact you are on a bike. There will always be someone who wants to block you in, cut you up or drag race you at the lights. They are not hard to spot and I keep away from them because they are happy to put you at risk, cause accidents and provoke road-rage.
The average car driver wouldnt know a Gixxer from a GS5 let alone the differences from the hole in his ar**.