These are the most recent pictures of my Cafe Racer/Street Fighter "Cafe Fighter" Build.
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z307/quiktaco/IMG_0908.jpg)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z307/quiktaco/IMG_0909.jpg)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z307/quiktaco/IMG_0910.jpg)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z307/quiktaco/IMG_0913.jpg)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z307/quiktaco/IMG_0921.jpg)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z307/quiktaco/IMG_0925.jpg)
and Stock
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z307/quiktaco/IMG_0120.jpg)
and Video's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lbh9jY4Zc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwcOwcOvzu0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUgM10CXDUU
She looks great from behind in that B&W! ...and nice in the rest as well! :thumb: I dig the mirrors!
lookin good :cheers:
now that im seeing my bike in these pictures, it seems that my handlebars are really high still. think i might change those eventually.
These pictures are showing the custom exhaust that I just re made. I dont have the link, but check out that thread if you want to know more about it. Or just ask in this one, whatever.
Looks cool, how does that straight pipe treat your engine? Everything is ok?
its not a straight pipe. there is a baffle. its loud but not too bad. probably like a v and h. its great through. fuel is dialed in to it, and she flies now.
sorry about the weird writting. im on my pocket pc.
what kind of tires are those and what size and wher'd u get them lol
i'm in need of fresh tires
Quote from: Tang on July 14, 2008, 09:42:13 PM
what kind of tires are those and what size and wher'd u get them lol
i'm in need of fresh tires
Bridgestone Battlax BT45's? Look pretty much stock. New front?
Yes, they're the stock tires, but both are brand new. Just put them on about 2 weeks ago. I used to have 2 tires that didn't match, and were very old and cracked. Also were 2 inches taller than stock, so everything was being thrown off by that. The stock BT45's are great in comparison. I figured I'd go with stock tires, since I have a short commute to work which makes up most of my riding.
Very nice. I like what you've done with the rear end and that exhaust looks awesome!
OK am I missing somehting ... it looks rather like a GS wihtout side covers to me ??
Oooo pardon me, and a straight pipe. What am I missing ? seriously ?
Cool.
Buddha.
Yep, that's pretty much what it is. Not a straight pipe though...it's baffled a little.
List of what I remember I've done...
• Superbike Bars
• Napolean Mirrors
• New Tires
• Custom Exhaust (not a straight pipe, there is a baffle that I made - works very nicely)
• Lunchbox
• Jets
• Footpegs
• Front and rear signals
• Relocated Brake light
• Relocated License plate
• Relocated Wiring
• Sealed Battery
• Removed Rear side covers
• Removed Front Fender
• Cut off back of Rear Subframe
• Katana Rear Shock
• Removed center stand
• Modified and reupholstered seat. (Front flip up was cut down, and rear flip up was cut off)
• Cut off rear footpegs
• Removed Mud Guard
• Removed Chain Guard
My concept for this bike is to remove as much of the useless junk as possible. I've taken about 20 pounds off the bike, maybe a little more. I just wanted it as simplistic as possible. And as cheap as possible too. I'm making everything that I can (hence the custom exhaust that cost about 10 bucks, and sounds great) I'm still in the process of pretty much everything still. I really like the look of 50's 60's and 70's Cafe Racers, and I've been building this with that in mind. Nothing will be on this bike that isn't needed. I think I've done a pretty good job of that so far.
Future Plans...
• Relocating the battery
• Fabing up a new subframe that is minimalistic
• New Taillight/ Rear Turn Signals
• Painting the Frame, Engine, Tank, Forks
• Making Removable Rear pegs for the Wife
• Progressives up front
• Modifying and rerouting the wiring harness.
Quote from: quiktaco on July 15, 2008, 09:53:28 AM
List of what I remember I've done...
• Superbike Bars
• Napolean Mirrors
• New Tires
• Custom Exhaust (not a straight pipe, there is a baffle that I made - works very nicely)
• Lunchbox
• Jets
• Footpegs
• Front and rear signals
• Relocated Brake light
• Relocated License plate
• Relocated Wiring
• Sealed Battery
• Removed Rear side covers
• Removed Front Fender
• Cut off back of Rear Subframe
• Katana Rear Shock
• Removed center stand
• Modified and reupholstered seat. (Front flip up was cut down, and rear flip up was cut off)
• Cut off rear footpegs
• Removed Mud Guard
• Removed Chain Guard
My concept for this bike is to remove as much of the useless junk as possible. I've taken about 20 pounds off the bike, maybe a little more. I just wanted it as simplistic as possible. And as cheap as possible too. I'm making everything that I can (hence the custom exhaust that cost about 10 bucks, and sounds great) I'm still in the process of pretty much everything still. I really like the look of 50's 60's and 70's Cafe Racers, and I've been building this with that in mind. Nothing will be on this bike that isn't needed. I think I've done a pretty good job of that so far.
Future Plans...
• Relocating the battery
• Fabing up a new subframe that is minimalistic
• New Taillight/ Rear Turn Signals
• Painting the Frame, Engine, Tank, Forks
• Making Removable Rear pegs for the Wife
• Progressives up front
• Modifying and rerouting the wiring harness.
Oh yea I remmeber, you were the one talking about cutting the seat ... OK ... now makes it sense ...
The tail section and seat cutting yes and moving the tail light and what not, the rest is all pretty much what every one has done. So you understand my obvious confusion.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on July 15, 2008, 10:57:49 AM
Oh yea I remmeber, you were the one talking about cutting the seat ... OK ... now makes it sense ...
The tail section and seat cutting yes and moving the tail light and what not, the rest is all pretty much what every one has done. So you understand my obvious confusion.
Cool.
Buddha.
Yeah, that's me. I didn't say it was anything special. I was just posting pictures of what I've done so far. I'm not planing on putting much money into this thing. It's got 44k miles on it, and is really just a bike to learn on and to have fun with making things for.
My reference to 'Cafe Fighter' is in the minimalistic style of the old Cafe Racers, combined with the newer version of the Street Fighters.
Short,sweet and to the point! I Like! :thumb: :cheers:
looks good and looks like you had fun doing it. :thumb:
Man, that looks g r e a t ! The B&W shot is really nice. Really makes the rear tire look cool.
Of course, you've got one up on the rest of us with the darker charcoal frame to begin with ;)
Keep it up, love the pictures :)
I was actually getting tired of the charcoal frame and was thinking about painting it black. Think I should/shouldn't?
Quote from: quiktaco on July 15, 2008, 05:40:29 PM
I was actually getting tired of the charcoal frame and was thinking about painting it black. Think I should/shouldn't?
Personally, I like the charcoal and the little bit of contrast it provides, but my opinion isn't really what counts. :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: quiktaco on July 15, 2008, 08:26:03 AM
Yes, they're the stock tires, but both are brand new. Just put them on about 2 weeks ago. I used to have 2 tires that didn't match, and were very old and cracked. Also were 2 inches taller than stock, so everything was being thrown off by that. The stock BT45's are great in comparison. I figured I'd go with stock tires, since I have a short commute to work which makes up most of my riding.
I noticed the pre-mod bike had a BT45 on the rear, but didn't seem to on the front. ...thought perhaps you'd just bought one, but two is better! :thumb:
So, where did you get those mirrors? Napolean is the brand name?
Sorry but I don't know to much about exhausts but when you say baffles do you mean it's diameter is slightly broadened at the end? Does that help with backpressure or something because I thought not running some kind of muffler could ruin the engine. By the way your bike looks awesome and I think we're on the exact same page with what we're trying to do. :cheers:
Yes they're Napoleon Mirrors. I don't remember where exactly I got them. Check the wiki in the upgrades section, I think it suggests a couple places.
A simplified introduction... The theory behind a muffler is highly complex. You can do one of the following to lower the sound. Either, absorb, reflect, restrict, or expand. If you use one of these, then it will be quieter than none. The more you use, and the more of each you use (more restriction, or more absorption), then the quieter it will be.
A baffle is something that can do, or be part of any of these, depending on the construction. I actually have two baffles in mine. Both restrict slightly, and both reflect slightly. A good example of absorption is a straight through exhaust that has fiberglass batting. The fiberglass absorbes the sound. Expansion is easily seen in 2 stroke expansion pipe (mostly used for changing power characteristics (doesn't work with 4 strokes the same)). Or even in a car exhaust, like a magnaflow. Those use expansion and reflection.
I would suggest reading as much as you can about mufflers and muffler theory before attempting to make one. Even though my design is extremely simple, there was a lot of thought that went behind it to accomplish what I wanted.
Here are the links to the YouTube video's that I just posted of my new exhaust.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lbh9jY4Zc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwcOwcOvzu0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUgM10CXDUU
sounds awesome man!
Thanks. I think it's sounding better than my previous attempt. It's deeper and fuller now.
Quote from: quiktaco on July 15, 2008, 05:40:29 PM
I was actually getting tired of the charcoal frame and was thinking about painting it black. Think I should/shouldn't?
I bet you'd find new love for the charcoal frame if your swingarm, forks, and trees matched it ;)
Only thing hottererer than charcoal gs frames is gloss black imho :)
I'm hitting your videos now....
In the 'be patient' video, did you kick out the rear just a little when you were stopping ?
Sounds great, wish you would have done a flyby in a lower gear though. :D
It would be gloss black if I painted it. Along with SA and front forks. I think I would like the charcoal as well with all those. Might look into my paint choices.
Don't think I kicked it out. I was by myself, so I had the camera sitting on the curb, and there was a curve right out of view on the right side of the shot, so I had to slow down drastically right there. I'll try to make another video of better drive by's. Getting low rpm and high rpm.
So what do you guys think of the video's, any comments?
I think the bike sounds almost as good as it looks. It's got a nice muscular growl to it now. :thumb:
explain in detail the baffle in the exhaust
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=40382.80
In this thread, there is a picture that I CAD'd up that explains it pretty well. The only modification that I had to make from this, was a hole in the center of the out-most baffle. After it was installed, it wasn't breathing enough, so I made a 1/2" hole in the center. Everything else is the same as this drawing.
:thumb: love the sound. It is just a little meaner but not too loud.
Quote from: b_long_1 on July 21, 2008, 12:18:41 PM
:thumb: love the sound. It is just a little meaner but not too loud.
Thanks!
So for an update on the exhaust, It's working great, and still seems to be dialed into my jetting. I think it might be just slightly too loud for the early morning startup with my neighbors. No one has complained, but I'm worried that the management is going to say something. I might leave it as is until someone says something.
your bike looks and sounds awesome!
I wish I could drop my stock exhaust for something smaller and go with the minimal rear of the bike look like you have, but I have no talent in that area so I'm going to have to settle for the stock look for a while :icon_sad:
Quote from: tripleb on July 23, 2008, 12:42:15 PM
your bike looks and sounds awesome!
I wish I could drop my stock exhaust for something smaller and go with the minimal rear of the bike look like you have, but I have no talent in that area so I'm going to have to settle for the stock look for a while :icon_sad:
Or we could all beg quiktaco to make more of these exhuasts and sell them to us! :thumb:
You know Seconds, if you keep pushing me like this, I may just weld one up for you next time I break out the welder. :laugh:
So is this muffler stock just cut off with a welded on baffle?
Is the muffler attached anywhere below the engine?
Also, what did you set on your carbs? main jet, washers, mixture screw, etc?
I've been wanting to cut my exhaust like this for a while, but hesitant to figuring out what the carbs should be tuned to..
There is no muffler, other than what was welded in to the last 6 inches or so of the pipe. It is only a baffle. Working on restriction mostly (although it's still very free flowing). I have a Dyno Jet mess with my carbs from the previous owner, and I'm still trying to get everything sorted out with that. I have a lunchobx, with 140 mains, 40 pilots, clip on #3 position from the top, and don't remember # of turns out. Plus One and a half holes plugged on each slide. I'm telling you, it's a big mess. I'll be going back to stock needles and everything soon.
I'd treat this as a free flowing exhaust that you'd purchase. 150 mains. Refer to the matrix for the rest, and always test your own bike after using this as a starting point.
I say go for it. Just lob it off. You can always weld the stock one back on. It's only metal.
If you're wanting to go to a straight pipe with no baffle, then I'd say up the main a little more. I don't know what else, but when I tested it with the open pipe, it backfired a lot. I'd say have something to baffle it a bit. It sounds better with the baffle than the open pipe.
Check out what I got haha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOGM7Ey2u7c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOGM7Ey2u7c)
JC Whitney "Shorty Muffler" $25 just bolted onto the end with a little exhaust wrap in there. 40 pilot 147.5 main (could probly go 150 or 152.5), lunchbox, and 1 washer under (probly go 2).
best 25 i've spent, awesome sound and neat look.
Sounds just like mine, but mine was only 5 bucks. (and smaller - mine looks like a straight pipe). I think mine is a bit quieter too, a little more tolerable. Yours sounds like it could get obnoxious after a while.
I didn't read through the entire build of the muffler you linked to, so I'm sorry if you already answered this or if its common sense. I've recently moved to AZ where we have to go through emission checks to register a vehicle. My worry is that your "muffler" design wouldn't pass emissions? This is the first thing I've had carborated (other than the previous GS I owned 6-7 years ago) and this will be the first time I'll have to get it Echecked so I'm a little nervous!
Thanks,
Nick
I don't have to get it checked in CA, so I really wouldn't know. I've taken all the emission stuff off of mine. You might be better off getting something that is approved. Although the exhaust really doesn't have anything to do with emissions unless there's an inline catalytic converter. I'd check with a smog place that you'd go to and ask them a ton of questions to see what can pass and what is an automatic fail. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Quote from: quiktaco on July 23, 2008, 04:16:25 PM
You know Seconds, if you keep pushing me like this, I may just weld one up for you next time I break out the welder. :laugh:
Push...and a bump :icon_mrgreen:
lol
If you do start making the exhaust on your bike to sell, will you let me know how much. I have a 94 gs and I really like the look of your gs.
Thanks,
Wayne
I did make one for Seconds, but I don't think I'll be making any more. Too much trouble right now, I'm just too busy. If I do start making them for a bunch of people, the price might be around 75-100 dollars. Let me know if you are extremely interested in one, and I may consider making another one or two.
And it's AWESOME! I love that thing. It makes the rear of the bike. Quik, I wanted to ask how you mounted the taillight and license plate. I probably asked before, but I'm about to get into it. Thanks again for the wicked exhaust. :cheers:
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd257/RED_GREASE/gs500eafter.jpg)
I say cut the back and the seat all the way down into kind of like a bobber.... i think that would look crazy. a street cafe fighter bobber
Quote from: utgunslinger13 on July 29, 2008, 09:47:17 AM
I didn't read through the entire build of the muffler you linked to, so I'm sorry if you already answered this or if its common sense. I've recently moved to AZ where we have to go through emission checks to register a vehicle. My worry is that your "muffler" design wouldn't pass emissions? This is the first thing I've had carborated (other than the previous GS I owned 6-7 years ago) and this will be the first time I'll have to get it Echecked so I'm a little nervous!
Thanks,
Nick
OR get stock gs exhaust. and its jets. put in place, have check done/ pass it. tehn remove stock stuff. and replace with non stock stuff :icon_twisted: