Parts needed
Bandit 400 Rear wheel and crush drive
Some GS parts off your bike but if your bike is ride able you have them
Tools needed
Hammer
Grinder or a file
Simple hand tools (wrenches, sockets....)
First things first there is a write up on GS500 Wiki but I didn't really do what they did cause I don't like spacers it's the shortcut not legit way or doing it so I did it different and it works
I will skip simple steps in this write up to save space and if you can't figure out the simplified steps you might not want to be working on your bike
First things first pull the GS rear wheel
Don't lose the spacer on the Gear side of the wheel it sits in the crush drive
Once the wheel is off pull the gear off the GS crush drive since the bandit 400 is a 47 tooth gear and is a lot bigger.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p31/Mdobroth/Bike/IMG_0717.jpg)
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Bolt the GS gear on to the bandit crush drive and put it on the bandit wheel also add the GS spacer that came out of the GS crush drive.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p31/Mdobroth/Bike/IMG_0726.jpg)
That takes care of the left side of the wheel
On the right side use the GS spacer between the wheel and caliper bracket mount. Now here is the only real hard part of the swap. You need to shave off about 2.5ish MM off the OUTSIDE of the caliper bracket. Do not file the inside of the bracket it will make the caliper closer to the wheel and their for will not fit on the brake rotor.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p31/Mdobroth/Bike/IMG_0728.jpg)
Once you have it filed or ground down slide it in between the GS spacer and the swing arm. (Only file off as much as you need keep test fitting to see if it fits)
Once it fits put the chain on and bolt the wheel up and then bolt the caliper to the caliper bracket.
Now the last and technically 2nd modification. As with almost ever rear wheel swap the brake arm need to be bent or make a new one. This is were the hammer comes in.
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Only bend it as much as you need to clear the tire. Since some tires are wider then other have the tire you plan on running mounted to the Bandit 400 before you bend the brake arm.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p31/Mdobroth/Bike/IMG_0731.jpg)
Once it's been bent check all of your clearances with the tires tighten things down and then go easy on it to make sure it's all done right then enjoy.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p31/Mdobroth/Bike/IMG_0724.jpg)
Why to do it this way
Bandit crush drive will space the gear out perfectly so the chain is straight.
I finished it in less than 4 hours with no real tools
The wheel is a matching style.
Feel free to PM me with questions
THE ONLY THING I HAVE NOT CHECK
Is if the wheel is 100% centered in the swing arm. It looks it and rides like it's centered
DEF get a GSXR brake arm ill get pics up soon of mine but its so much easyer and safer
http://pantablo500.tripod.com/id16.html
the hammer foo is strong in this one. he will make a fine warrior.
:)
yes it has to be thats a pretty sturdy piece of metal haha
Mdow, I see you have your name engraved on your percussive adjuster!
I try my best
Cool! It's easier than I originally thought. Have a B4 wheel & hugger lying around the garage for months. Now to work on my Hammer Foo or just use my BFH! :icon_lol:
Erm... I respect your efforts, but that brake anchor rod is plain dangerous! There's a reason why it is sturdy in the first place! The way you "modified" it, it lost a lot of its initial stability for sure.
I know, it's "only" a back brake, but nevertheless it contributes to your safety when you have to do an emergency stop for example.
The Bandit 400 rear wheel conversion can actually be done by using the brake anchor rod of the Bandit 600 (1995 - 1999, GN77) or SV 650. This normally fits but may be a bit tight for your liking. Thus the best solution would be to build a new rod (http://www.gs-500.info/index.php?title=Brake_anchor_rod).
If you don't have facilities to do the welding, I'll guess somebody on here might be able to help you out for a few bucks.
Safety first guys!
well heres my 2 cents.. but dont take this as a i am right. its just what i did.
i got a B4 wheel without a cush drive so i used my GS one an the GS spacer i had to add another small spacer to it because the B4 wheel is not as wide in the center as the gs wheel is. i also added washers behind the sprocket for chain clearance an had to hammer out the brake arm a bit for a 170/60ZR17 Conti-Attack tire, but all in all it worked out well . the only crappy part about the Job is the CLean UP the B4 wheel i got is white an my stockers are Black i had to paint the front to match an the white wheels reall set off the Bike imho. but white wheels are hard to keep clean!
A 170 on a 4 inch rim ?
Quote from: Jay_wolf on August 09, 2008, 01:52:20 PM
A 170 on a 4 inch rim ?
Yep an got Pics to Prove it... also Buddah has seen it an he was giddy like a school Boy!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/razthenailer/Bike019.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/razthenailer/Bike018.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/razthenailer/Bike017.jpg)
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v705/razthenailer/?action=view¤t=24dc9f8d.pbw
I thought the biggest was 160 . hows it fit ? ,. i have a 4.5 inch wheel , so should fit on there pretty good ,
Quote from: theGrinch on August 09, 2008, 08:40:19 AM
Erm... I respect your efforts, but that brake anchor rod is plain dangerous! There's a reason why it is sturdy in the first place! The way you "modified" it, it lost a lot of its initial stability for sure.
I know, it's "only" a back brake, but nevertheless it contributes to your safety when you have to do an emergency stop for example.
The Bandit 400 rear wheel conversion can actually be done by using the brake anchor rod of the Bandit 600 (1995 - 1999, GN77) or SV 650. This normally fits but may be a bit tight for your liking. Thus the best solution would be to build a new rod (http://www.gs-500.info/index.php?title=Brake_anchor_rod).
If you don't have facilities to do the welding, I'll guess somebody on here might be able to help you out for a few bucks.
Safety first guys!
i realize this altho im not concerned about the rod bending any more i do plan on making another soon just don't have the money or time right now
Quote from: ATLRIDER on August 09, 2008, 08:23:45 AM
Cool! It's easier than I originally thought. Have a B4 wheel & hugger lying around the garage for months. Now to work on my Hammer Foo or just use my BFH! :icon_lol:
ya man its super easy
how do i add this to GS wiki?
that tar is frickin pinched like a turd
the brake rod is ugly but strong enough
its got more room then the pic makes it look. i got about 3/4- a full inch