Alright guys, I have the 2006 GS 500, and me Dad recently wrecked his 2005 GSXR 1000, and we are planning on putting the 1000 motor on the 500. We feel pretty confident, but was wonderin if there was any pros out there who could give us any major reasons why this might be impossible? THANKS GUYS
P.S. This is my 1st post.
Oh yea, its fine, it will fit. I did one last week. No scratch that, 2 last week. Next week I am doing a ZX14 in it, lengthwise.
Cool.
Buddha.
That sounds cool. Seems likely you'll have to make a whole bunch of brackets and that kind of thing. You should post pictures of how you do it.
Also, you should find a GSXR to put your spare GS500 engine in, just to complete the cycle...
theres no way in hell the frame will hold up that is if you can make it fit. I mean im sure you can with enough work but i suggest replacing
1 the forks
2 rear shock
3 probably entire swingarm (theres no way a 130 tire will work :laugh:)
4 BRAKES BRAKES BRAKES!!!
5 probaly everything else thats stock :icon_lol:
frame is not strong enough, swingarm(will not fit in gsxr engine) is not strong enough, forks are not strong enough.
Concentrate on the above 3 areas and you will have a badass bike. Why dont you just sell the wrecked bike?
yea... Not gonna happen.
Welcome to the board :cheers:
Keep your GS a GS :icon_mrgreen:
Ya know, people told the Wright brothers it would never work, too.
Quote from: spc on August 22, 2008, 07:24:31 PM
Ya know, people told the Wright brothers it would never work, too.
true as that may be, we know it wont because of mechanical limitations. the GS frame simply isnt wide enough, strong enough, nor designed for a 1000 motor. plus it calls for a hell of a suspension upgrade, wider swingarm and wheel out back, intake modification for the 1000's airbox being up top rather than in the back like the GS has it, and so many other pains in the rear.
simply put, a 1000 motor would RIP a GS frame apart.
Quote from: spc on August 22, 2008, 07:24:31 PM
Ya know, people told the Wright brothers it would never work, too.
And they also told the 1000's of other clowns who tried to build a "heavier than air flying machine" that it wont work. Most of them didn't listen and got themselves killed or maimed.
So whats your point.
But see ... if you notice ... I never said it wont work ... ha ha, I'm better than all of you ... ha ha.
Cool.
Buddha.
Besides the above structural issues and strength limitations of the GS... you will have a problem with chain alignment unless you offset the motor to the right... not good for balance.
You would be better off making a shifter cart.
Quote from: The Buddha on August 22, 2008, 07:32:32 PM
Quote from: spc on August 22, 2008, 07:24:31 PM
Ya know, people told the Wright brothers it would never work, too.
And they also told the 1000's of other clowns who tried to build a "heavier than air flying machine" that it wont work. Most of them didn't listen and got themselves killed or maimed.
So whats your point.
But see ... if you notice ... I never said it wont work ... ha ha, I'm better than all of you ... ha ha.
Cool.
Buddha.
And Hitler was a product of inbreeding, suffered great amounts of abuse from his father both physical and psychological and was constantly told he would never amount to anything. Yeah, that worked out alright.
The moral of the story is: Don't discourage someone with lofty goals and for the love of god don't screw your own niece and beat the hell out the resulting child, he just might grow up to be responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people.
OP: It's possible, but to do it effectively and safely is going to cost you WAY more time and money than a brand spanking new Gix1k.
you would, have to do several things, line up the output of the tranny, to the rear sprocket, as well as mount teh engine securely, ( gobs o' power etc) essentially it will be twice as wide as teh gs engine. take that into account, so cornering may be affected. i had the notion WAAAAAAAY back of doing a busa engine into it see here http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=3232.msg25356#msg25356, btw it never happened, ( i sold engine), prolly could have, but $$$ wise it would have been VERY expensive to amke happen. can it be done? sure, . depending how deep your pockets are :thumb:
I'd just find a GSXR frame, even an old gsxr 750 frame would be a better starting point than the GS. Too many issues.
Quote from: The Buddha on August 22, 2008, 05:54:52 PM
Next week I am doing a ZX14 in it, lengthwise.
Cool.
Buddha.
If you use shaft drive and talk with a German accent you could call that a K1400. :laugh: :laugh:
this is an old hat trick. Just the other day I read a thread on thegsresources about a guy who put a gsxr1100 motor into a gs550e. Measure it up, if it'll fit, you're good to go. It'll stick out the sides a bit, but I'll bet the frame is strong enough, but either way I'd weld in some bracing. You will need a new swingarm/shock/wheels/tires/fork/brakes, because the GS500 is lacking in that area to begin with
this has to be a topper for a first post
Now that I think about it. I am going to put a Dodge Viper engine in the GS since my friend crashed his. I was told it was a bolt on mod.
+1 to shifter cart!
I really think a generational change is required here, the day of the reciprocating piston engine is over. A friend in the Air Force recently had a taxiing accident in an F18, and the insurance wrote it off. Luckily, the General Electric F404 turbofan is undamaged and we're swapping it into my GS this weekend. The best thing is we don't need to fabricate an exhaust system as it comes with its own afterburner. :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :o
Quote from: the mole on August 23, 2008, 02:23:50 PM
I really think a generational change is required here, the day of the reciprocating piston engine is over. A friend in the Air Force recently had a taxiing accident in an F18, and the insurance wrote it off. Luckily, the General Electric F404 turbofan is undamaged and we're swapping it my GS this weekend. The best thing is we don't need to fabricate an exhaust system as it comes with its own afterburner. :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :o
tell him to install reverse thrust mechanism for better braking
Quote from: arbakken on August 23, 2008, 08:45:54 AM
this is an old hat trick. Just the other day I read a thread on thegsresources about a guy who put a gsxr1100 motor into a gs550e. Measure it up, if it'll fit, you're good to go. It'll stick out the sides a bit, but I'll bet the frame is strong enough, but either way I'd weld in some bracing. You will need a new swingarm/shock/wheels/tires/fork/brakes, because the GS500 is lacking in that area to begin with
Gaaa ... the GSXR 1100 air oil motor will fit in any 4cyl air oil bike ... katana 600, 750, Bandit 600 etc ...
The GS550 possibly also has similar dimensions and locations of mounts.
Like the FZR 1000 motor fitting an FZR 400. If the castings the cases are made from are the same its a fair bet you can stuff one in another. GSXR1100 motor in a GSXR 750 frame ... you heard of the 2 finger test ??? it will fail that, its taller.
The GR in the GS is also near about the same thing. The motor will fit with very small mods, the exhaust pipe will not without a full blown custom pipe work.
Cool.
Buddha.
I Love sarcasm. :thumb:
and remove the passenger/pillion area and install a drag chute as well O0