I am in need of a new gas tank(don't ask why :icon_rolleyes:).
I can make any year work.
Thanks
I'd like your old one ... dont ask why ... :icon_rolleyes:
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Buddha.
Please tell me you have a super-secret plan to develop aftermarket gas tanks for the GS500 that do not weigh a jillion pounds.
I am working on and failing at developing a gas tank that does not have the crap pockets. I destroyed one already, there is one more that has rust in that area, and that was what killed the previous one ... Crap pockets being rusted = bad, even if you're cutting off the crap pockets. Go figure.
Yea cant weld to rust. that's why.
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Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on August 28, 2008, 08:50:20 AM
I'd like your old one ... dont ask why ... :icon_rolleyes:
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Ummmmmmmm...... yeah, you might not.
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Side walk impact ??? yeow that is bad ... anyway, I'd still take it if it was ... ummm ... shipping $ ...
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I have 2 that I will sell. I know one (blue 9x) needs to be cleaned. The other (yellow 94) should still be in good shape. It had some minor rust speckles inside it. I will try to get pics and price tonight.
Yea ... I'll take the cheaper one ... how much ... and dented ? if so, how bad.
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Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on August 29, 2008, 11:20:59 AM
Yea ... I'll take the cheaper one ... how much ... and dented ? if so, how bad.
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Buddha.
My post was directed to SmithvilleFlats, the originator of this thread. He was the one who posted wanting a tank and has first rights.
Quote from: SmithvilleFlats on August 28, 2008, 08:05:41 AM
I am in need of a new gas tank(don't ask why :icon_rolleyes:).
I can make any year work.
Thanks
Here is what I have...
I can include a POR-15 kit for $30 + shipping with one of the tanks.
1999. Light surface rust on on the inside. Small dent on the "S" on the right side. Scratches but no rash. Faded paint. No gas cap or petcock.
$60 + shipping
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/dgyver/ForSale/GSyellowtank1.jpg
1991. Flaking rust on the inside. Dent on the "S" on the right side, with a small crease. Rash on the right corner. Scratched and faded paint. No gas cap or petcock.
$40 + shipping
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/dgyver/ForSale/GSbluetank1.jpg
D - I'll take the one he doesn't and dont need no por 15, never touch the stuff ... :cookoo:
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Buddha.
I won't be taking the blue one, so it's free for Buddha.
Not sure yet on the other, I need to chase some rabbit trails.
Your call D, I can wait for him to decide on the other one too ... He dont want that, I take both.
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Buddha.
I would need to ship them separately either way.
I'll take the blue one then, send me a guesstimate on shipping, and after you send it and have an exact $, I'll send you the difference.
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Buddha.
Buddha, do you still do the rust-preventative coatings on tanks?
Also, dgyver and buddha, how much for shipping to 13901?
Quote from: SmithvilleFlats on September 08, 2008, 03:25:09 PM
Buddha, do you still do the rust-preventative coatings on tanks?
Yes, I'll do a GS tank for $60, but all other tanks, to be determined on a case by case basis ... $60 minimum.
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Buddha.
this is for the buddha. i just picked up another gs with 2 tanks. i might be persuaded to let you have the dented one if you were so inclined to kream the the other. pm me if interested. & thanks for the deal on the braided brake line. :thumb:
Just about the only way to undent a tank, is to cut into the underside and knock it out, then roll it out and then get the thing welded back in.
Then ofcourse you have to coat it.
Now what you want to do ??? I do POR 15, though if you prefer kreem, I could switch. Only difference (I actually prefer kreem) is, POR 15 wont burn in a powdercoating oven. Kreem will. However Kreem is a lot easier to get out if you have a problem later.
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Buddha.
i actually have no preference whatsoever. i have kream-ed a tank before with moderately satisfying results. just trying to pawn off an extra tank to avoid work.
OK, so what you want me to do ??? coat a tank and you pay me with the other tank ? OK how bad is it. How bout sending some pics to my email.
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Buddha.
dgyver, I'm thinking I'll buy the tank, have you ship it to buddha, and have him coat it.
So how much would shipping be to a.)Buddha
and b.) from buddha to me (13901)?
Quote from: SmithvilleFlats on September 09, 2008, 01:20:44 PM
dgyver, I'm thinking I'll buy the tank, have you ship it to buddha, and have him coat it.
So how much would shipping be to a.)Buddha
...
$18
smithville flats - I can undent it too ... better done before coating ... how much ... well depends ... I'll see it and get back to you.
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Buddha.
Payment sent to dgyver.
Buddha, let me know how and how much to pay you.
What's the turn-around time on the coating?
Got the payment. Tank boxed up and planning on shipping Monday to Buddha.
Quote from: SmithvilleFlats on September 12, 2008, 03:00:54 PM
Payment sent to dgyver.
Buddha, let me know how and how much to pay you.
What's the turn-around time on the coating?
3 weeks or so. Rain and BS gets in the way. You want POR 15 or kreem.
You want undenting. This is the general procedure. Cut a hole under the tank, put in a hammer and knock it out. Then roll it and finesse it and wiggle it and what not. Then weld it and then coat it with POR 15. the side benefit is that I can sand the rust clean and dry the tank well, that way the acid step is a lot less intrusive and may even be skipped if its a very rust free tank to start with. I can Just acetone clean and coat. I cant tell you the cost, depends on the size of the cut, but a hand sized one on average was $40 to weld up. Cutting ofcourse is free as is minimal hammering and rolling with a coating job to be paid for. More hammering extra ... rolling not included, sanding may be needed at extra cost. Battery of the tank not included.
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Buddha.
Undenting seems like more work than it's worth so I'd say don't bother.
As for POR 15 or kreem, whichever is more resilient. I'm going for longevity.
I did one just this week. Its not bad. That yellow I can just about match exactly with powdercoat. Or the older 93-94 red, yea, or black, shiny glassy black ...
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Buddha.
Gas tank should be getting to Buddha soon.
Hey, I got it earlier this week.
I am yet to even open the box, but plan on coating it later this weekend, unless you want a de denting job, which I plan to do on the blue tank I got from dgyver in a few hours.
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Buddha.
Cosmetics are not a big issue at this point, so unless it's very convenient or structurally necessary, don't bother with the dent.
Hey check this link ...
http://picasaweb.google.com/srinath.the.man/TankDeDenting#
That's the blue tank I got from dgyver.
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Buddha.
Let me know a price and how much time that would add and I'll decide
smithville Flats by chance do you get a tank with cap if you did would you mind letting one go.
Quote from: SmithvilleFlats on September 20, 2008, 06:46:08 AM
Let me know a price and how much time that would add and I'll decide
This is $40 ... I have done enough of this to know, welding it back is $40, I'd do the rest free if POR15 after ... If I didn't coat after that I'd charge $50.
I believe it will save me time and $$ and make it easier on the tank if I sand it by hand, clean and dry it and hand paint it with por15. Then we weld in the patch and just put POR 15 on it with a brush. So work in this area saves me work in the acid etch and drying area. And if I dont acid etch, I dont have to breathe in the damn fumes ...
I cant guarantee it will be perfect, it may have a ripple or so ... nothing like a dent ... maybe a dent in reverse ... as in I knocked it too hard ... small one maybe. Its been comming out very smoooth though so far. Time - maybe an extra week max. Hard to tell, may even save some time, especially drying and curing ... However where you save is ... you can buy the worst crap tank you can find and have a 90% chance its gonna come out OK.
I didn't start on your tank yet kiddo, cos I have not found a long stretch of time to do it ... however this process can be done 5 mins at a time. Cut, let it sit, no biggie, sand ... knock ... sand ... roll ... etc etc ... 5 mins, I can run in the gar and roll it a few times get back in the house for dinner ... easy. Not like the acid crap where you have to finish the whole thing in a stretch ... and worse, it cannot rain in the time and has to be warm to hot and you have to do it outside due to fumes. BS I call.
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Buddha.
BTW one reason it works so well is cos the metal already has the stretch in it when it was hammered into place when it was made. You start with a flat sheet of metal ... and try to beat a 2 dimensional curve into it, no freaking way ... but this already has been beaten into shape, Easy. the first 3-4 blows and it restores itself almost to that original shape, progressive rolling etc etc only restores ridges and corners and other minor defects.
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Buddha.
Quote from: SmithvilleFlats on September 20, 2008, 06:46:08 AM
Let me know a price and how much time that would add and I'll decide
You need to confirm fast ... the sawzall's waiting ...
That dent may actually come out without leaving a mark and you may not even have to do more than touch up that area ... but not sure ... crease in paint sometimes makes it flake off.
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Buddha.
Quote from: mikedrees on September 09, 2008, 07:36:07 AM
i actually have no preference whatsoever. i have kream-ed a tank before with moderately satisfying results. just trying to pawn off an extra tank to avoid work.
And what happened to this ?
Yes, no ... maybe ...
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Buddha.
Do it.
And that wasn't me.\/
Quote from: The Buddha on September 23, 2008, 07:45:59 AM
Quote from: mikedrees on September 09, 2008, 07:36:07 AM
i actually have no preference whatsoever. i have kream-ed a tank before with moderately satisfying results. just trying to pawn off an extra tank to avoid work.
Quote from: KCK97gs500 on September 22, 2008, 01:28:10 PM
smithville Flats by chance do you get a tank with cap if you did would you mind letting one go.
Are you asking for a cap?
If yes, then sorry mine is bent beyond usefulness, so I need to get one as well.
Quote from: SmithvilleFlats on September 23, 2008, 03:01:36 PM
Do it.
And that wasn't me.\/
Quote from: The Buddha on September 23, 2008, 07:45:59 AM
Quote from: mikedrees on September 09, 2008, 07:36:07 AM
i actually have no preference whatsoever. i have kream-ed a tank before with moderately satisfying results. just trying to pawn off an extra tank to avoid work.
I know that was mike drees, not you ...
Anyway, it meets its maker tommorow ... want before and after pics ? ... Any bets on how many hits it will take ... I wont sand it ... I sand em only cos much of the paint there is flaked off ... but I'll get some cool pics ...
I think 1 hit wonder ... hopefully you dont even have to paint it ...
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Buddha.
OK its undented ... yea yea you want pics ... later tonight ... maybe ...
Some light bashing still needs done ... I cannot find my baseball ... yes, baseball, more like those rubber things they use at game parlors ... but none the less ...
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Buddha.
Check these pics out.
http://picasaweb.google.com/srinath.the.man/SmithvilleFlatsTank#
It was a two-fer dent removal. One on the side one in the back ... which still isn't perfect ... need my baseball. I decided I was gonna stop hammering at dark.
Anyway, I may be able to get a little better removal, however the dent is not visible from inside, the outside has a little ripple essentially where I thing the stickers bowed when it got dented, and as its undented they are holding an 'm' shape ... that center of the m is where the impact was. I almost have to sand the outside to be sure, but that means literally having to repaint ... and this tank is about good enough to not need it. Its nearly prefect.
Dgyver did you good, and my blue one was a deal and a 1/2 for the $$ too ... and he packed so well too. I plan to reuse it all nicely and send it off to you.
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Buddha.
Awesome. Looks good, can't wait to get it.
Yea I then hit it with a baseball ... OK didn't look like it did much ... then like my mexican friend said ... I hit it with a flower ... it made it smell good.
OK then I put acid in it over the weekend and ... its rained the last 2 days ... so that's where it is right now.
You in no hurry right ... through the 15th I do taxes ... didn't do em in april.
Then 20-31 I am in nashville TN, I'll have to start back on it after I get back, but I think I'll do the layer of POR 15 ... the part before welding it ... but you never know.
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Buddha.
It's already getting cold up here in upstate new york, so I doubt I'll get much riding in this season.
You dont want to powdercoat it or somehting after do you ... cos your paint is all intact ... is it on good or about to flake off where the dent used to be ... I dunno, but it is on ...
Good deal from dgyver ... The tank is comming out looking like its about never been dinged. :thumb:
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Buddha.
I'll put some more pics up ... but the gist is this ... the part I coated without welding back went great ... smooth as glass ... beautiful. I sopped up the puddle when it was still wet, and bingo ... it settled flat again. Beautiful.
Then we cured that, and welded it back. Here I had a snag. If I brushed it on, it wnt too thin ... on the weld you want to have it nicely covered. I had to wait till it thickened and then brished it on, and it got a few lumps ... obviously partially drying paint dries in a few spots and is wet in others ... so the uneven thing.
Anyway, its gotta cure, and I think it should be alright ... just looks a bit bumpy. The weld itself was a bit rough obviously. Anyway, its curing, I think I'll let it cook through my nashville trip. I have to check and let it cook well I guess and then send it ~mid next month. This week it may cook up well enough, and I can send it, but you may have to sit it in a shut in car in the sun and heat till you no longer smell paint. It cooks well in a good 150 degree car IMHO.
I'll also have to do a scrape test ... maybe thursday ...
Pics tommorow.
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Buddha.
More pics added.
http://picasaweb.google.com/srinath.the.man/SmithvilleFlatsTank#
I should take new pics again, its been welded after these were taken. And coated.
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Buddha.
Progress?
I got your progress right here ...
Oh wait a min ...
OK ... its done, its been sitting in my truck cooking in the sun for the last 3 weeks ...
OK I'll get off my butt and send you ... happy.
You painting it right ... cos some of that POR15 got outside too.
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Buddha.
Sweet.
Shipping to 13901?
Finally ... took you long enough ... OK OK its cool, not like I was doing anything on it ... :icon_twisted:
Prolly 25 bucks. 13901 - where is that, PA or so right. Between 20 and 25 bucks ...
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Buddha.
Upstate New York, so yeah, you're close.
So what's the total?
And how should I pay you?
*cough*
Oh yea ... paypal ... watch your PM.
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bump
Payment sent last Saturday.
I know dude, sorry I have had other projects I been working on, but yours is going in the next day or so - UPS not the usual USPS.
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Buddha.
Shipped?
Sorry no ... this weekend. I dont do UPS normally, so its been pushed to the background ... a lot.
BTW I also am disappointed at myself for the sloppy ass undenting I did on the blue one ... when powdercoated it definetly shows blemishes ... I was dreaming of it being perfect. Yours fared a lot better, but its still not perfect.
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bump
Sorry. I send it ... but you have tons of snow up there. I have rain and cold. OK bad excuse.
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Payment of $125 sent 7 weeks ago.
Still no delivery.
Sorry man I have had this and that happen. Anyway I'll have it sent wednesday. Its box is so big I have to put it in my truck and that truck has been in the shop for so long off and on.
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Buddha.
Sounds good.
Yea wednesday has come and gone and its still in my truck.
I plan on a powdercoating pick up, welding shop run, storage run and dropping this off tonight. Yea light night tonight, well ... beats the 85 mile run back home from work I say. Anyway, I'll get it tonight to UPS.
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