we have had some discussions here before on waving at HD and them not waving back. i began waving at everyone last week including scooters. so what about you guys? i figure if it has 2 wheels and a engine it is eligible for a hospitality wave.
-People I wave to, and usually get response from: :cheers:
--custom riders, including HD's (yes, sir)
--naked bike riders
--Jap supersport riders
-People I wave to, but usually get no response whatsoever (so I'm beginning not to wave at):
--BMW riders
--Expensive (especially Italian) supersport riders
-People I do not wave at because I'd get no wave back for sure:
--Enduro riders (most of them consider themselves as a separate class, not all of them though)
--Scooter riders ("...hey, why did that dude wave at me? What's that??") :laugh:
BTW, another question for the left-hand-traffic (UK, AUS, NZ...) guys:
do you wave one another on the road, too?
do you use your left hand like us or let the throttle go to wave at other riders? :icon_mrgreen:
I wave only if they have a helmet on :cheers:
No helmet no wave :icon_twisted:
Quote from: frankieG on August 28, 2008, 11:12:27 AMi figure if it has 2 wheels and a engine it is eligible for a hospitality wave.
No love for the folks sweatin' it out without an engine? :(
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Quote from: Roadstergal on August 28, 2008, 12:00:10 PM
Quote from: frankieG on August 28, 2008, 11:12:27 AMi figure if it has 2 wheels and a engine it is eligible for a hospitality wave.
No love for the folks sweatin' it out without an engine? :(
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no, i think i am generous enough
I'd wave at someone bustin ass at 20+mph on a road bike before I'd wave at a scooter........way before.
Cylces don't get waves. Scooter generally don't either, cause by the time I figure out its a scooter and not one of the e-bikes...its too late. Otherwise, everyone gets a wave.
Quote from: simon79 on August 28, 2008, 11:46:39 AM
BTW, another question for the left-hand-traffic (UK, AUS, NZ...) guys:
do you wave one another on the road, too?
do you use your left hand like us or let the throttle go to wave at other riders? :icon_mrgreen:
I'm in Sydney and we don't wave, we nod. It has to be bit of a sideways nod in their direction or else they can't see it. I don't generally nod at scooters but these days a lot of them look like regular bikes from the front so it's hard to tell. I don't nod at HD riders because they never do, and as for BMW riders not waving, my husband has a BMW and he always nods to other riders. :)
I wave at all motorcycles, and most anything that looks enough like a motorcycle gets a wave. Many HD folk wave back, some don't, I don't worry about the ones that don't, or prejudge the ones coming at me by what the last one did. Had I been on my bike I would probably not have waved at the squidmoron doing a wheelie in oncoming traffic that seemed odds-on for causing a bump and some nasty scratches to the paint as we ran him over with our car, but managed to stay on his own side of the road after all. That time. He'll be looking at a whole different set of wheels if he survives the crash he's got coming.
I wave at just about anything on 2 wheels. Motorcycles, scooters, bicycles if i'm in a good mood. Heck, i even wave a mopeds if the mood strikes me. I just can't make my mind up about trikes though...
I wave at anything on two wheels, country folk, and police officers. :icon_mrgreen:
BeSafe
I gave an exuberant wave to what appears to be a developmentally challenged man on a moped not that long ago. He was wearing an open-faced helmet and goggles. Had seen him not long before that at a bank pedalling like a madman (teeth gritted and all) trying to get up a slight grade and into a parking space before it stalled. He's only about 5' tall. I think he does some grunt work at a local scrapyard.
...anyway, long story short, I don't discriminate. :thumb:
Here in Oklahoma, where the helmet-clad are a minority, I wave at EVERY motorcycle. I give the standard wave around here -- a left hand peace sign out and down about hip level. What's ironic is that many helmetless riders don't wave back.
I guess those of us who protect ourselves (and by extension, our families) aren't manly enough to be waved at by the REAL men of motorcycling. Odd.
i wave at everyting bicycles scooters, liberals :flipoff: :kiss3:, and whatever has 2 wheels, and an engine . be it gasoline or chevrolegs :thumb:
Back when I was riding in the early to mid 90's, I waved a lot at first, but it seemed where I was living riders were very "cliqueish" and an early 80's Honda 125cc didnt get many waves back.
One day I was on my way home from work on that 125 in a cold rain wearing my improvised rain gear (I think it was around 8-9C outside and Fall). I didn't have a lot of money at the time and so I did a lot of improvisation and homebrew engineering to get SOMETHING that kinda-sorta worked for rain. Anyway, that day an oncoming rider decked out in high end rain gear on a large touring bike spotted me. He gave me an enthusiastic thumbs up well in advance, almost as if he was trying to say "nice! You didnt let the weather stop you from riding! awesome!". I waved back and returned the thumbs up.
Since that day if it was inclement weather out I always waved at motorcyclists nomatter what they rode.
I tend to wave at any other biker I see. Most sportbike guys wave back. The cruisers are about half and half.
I don't wave to scooters... but sometimes, I don't realize that it's a scooter until my hand is halfway out... then I've gotta try and do something "cool" with my hand.
Usually, scooter 'riders' don't even realize WHAT the wave is for... so therefore, they get NOTHING.
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on August 28, 2008, 11:51:23 PM
i wave at everyting bicycles scooters, liberals :flipoff: :kiss3:,
Yama, you're a funny guy. :cheers:
Quote from: trumpetguy on August 28, 2008, 10:36:50 PM
Here in Oklahoma, where the helmet-clad are a minority, I wave at EVERY motorcycle. I give the standard wave around here -- a left hand peace sign out and down about hip level. What's ironic is that many helmetless riders don't wave back.
I guess those of us who protect ourselves (and by extension, our families) aren't manly enough to be waved at by the REAL men of motorcycling. Odd.
The helmetless are either too new to take their hands off the bars or young and think their invincible so their shaZam! don't stink. Most of the helmetless cruiser guys who ride as a lifestyle will wave the doctors and lawyers who just ride to brag about being cool usually snob sport bike riders.
Cycles sorry but I know they have as much legal right to the road as cagers but we have em around here that make an obnoxius point of it to the point of being discourteous, I gave up any thoughts of doing any road work training around here because the cyclists have pissed the caging population off to the point where even if your nice and move over for cages to pass they still scare the piss outta you. Around here I give cyclist the big FU wave when they execise their right to the road to the point of slowing traffic deliberately.
Quote from: trumpetguy on August 29, 2008, 06:16:25 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on August 28, 2008, 11:51:23 PM
i wave at everyting bicycles scooters, liberals :flipoff: :kiss3:,
Yama, you're a funny guy. :cheers:
:laugh: i try sometimes 8)
Quote from: Roslyn on August 28, 2008, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: simon79 on August 28, 2008, 11:46:39 AM
BTW, another question for the left-hand-traffic (UK, AUS, NZ...) guys:
do you wave one another on the road, too?
do you use your left hand like us or let the throttle go to wave at other riders? :icon_mrgreen:
I'm in Sydney and we don't wave, we nod. It has to be bit of a sideways nod in their direction or else they can't see it. I don't generally nod at scooters but these days a lot of them look like regular bikes from the front so it's hard to tell. I don't nod at HD riders because they never do, and as for BMW riders not waving, my husband has a BMW and he always nods to other riders. :)
aussie nod, i like it. pretty cool. :)
I still get a kick out of a wave. Sometimes it's even from 8 lanes over, a HD (at that!) guy with a big grin.
Girls on bikes ALWAYS wave back. And they're smiling. And stunning.
HD guys are 50/50 on waves.
BMW guys seem too nervous about dropping it or something to wave.
Jap bike guys usually do.
Rediculousely expensive Itallian/whatever riders are weird. No really. I've waved at a fella on a beautiful Duc for a month now (even last night while washing my bike) and gotten no response, not even a nod/head turn.
Cruiser guys are usually too busy talking on their cell phones.
Scooter folks are usually 50/50, because they're confused as to why i'm waving.
Cyclists (PEDAL BADASSES!) are about 75-90% wavers. Usually they just want a break from the pain. Ahhh, the pain, it is sweet. :)
Awesome topic, I love it!
I wave at everyone, including scooters...with the exception of had core "bikers" on HD's. Not talking the dentist crowd, I'm talking the guys in colours.
I agree, its funny to see scooter guys, thier first response is usually to look behind them. "was he waving at me!? why!?" LOL
I'd say I get a 90% wave back rate. never noticed the erou bikes waving less., i'll have to watch for that!
Quote from: ohgood on August 30, 2008, 03:53:25 AM
Rediculousely expensive Itallian/whatever riders are weird. No really. I've waved at a fella on a beautiful Duc for a month now (even last night while washing my bike) and gotten no response, not even a nod/head turn.
Oh, come on dude, he was just wondering about how much next service on his Ducati will cost him :laugh:
Just kidding :icon_mrgreen:
*waiting for spc to join the discussion and crush me :icon_mrgreen:*
I wave at everyone unless I'm in a turn then I give a nod. Sometimes they return sometimes not (seems mostly like older men that i think see faired bike and think young punk) but hey at least I made the effort.
If my wife is with me she will not wave unless there is a girl on the back of the passer by.
It amazed me when I first got my bike how MANY riders were waving at me - and I make a habit of waving at all motorcycles that are on the road when it is safe to do so.
It's a code of the road - bikers wave at other bikers, and when you stop you chat with other bikers. You would never do that with a car, but a bike is totally different. Very cool attitude out there!
I wave ONLY at motorcycles. I have a friend that owns a HD and he told me that the reason they don't wave to sportsbikes is because they are another class. I also asked him why he doesn't wear gear and he said that they aren't as dangerous as sportsbikes so the probability of a crash are slim.
Quote from: Skeets on August 30, 2008, 06:15:57 PM
I wave ONLY at motorcycles. I have a friend that owns a HD and he told me that the reason they don't wave to sportsbikes is because they are another class. I also asked him why he doesn't wear gear and he said that they aren't as dangerous as sportsbikes so the probability of a crash are slim.
Seems like flawed logic to me.
Noticed today, that any bike with handle bars around their shoulders (haven't seen this on anything but a cruiser) will not wave. Too cool? Or their arms are stuck in that awkward position.
Id say I get abotu a 60% return rate on the wave. Sometimes its bad timing like a passing/passed car that blocked it out, or the guy looks the other way to switch lanes right as i do it. I almost always wave back unless Im do the same thing as described previously. I pulled up to this guy on his vrod about a month ago. We talked. And sure enough last night, He seen me at the bar and bought me a drink and asked how my GS was doing. How'd he fuckgin remember? eh.
I'm in Australia and I have to agree with Roslyn We normally nod- I nod at everyone inlcuding scooters and H-Ds but I must admit that it is the Harleys that most often don't nod back. I've been riding now for a little over a year and I must say that I haven't experienced such collegiality and mateship on the raod since I had my VW Combi Van back in the early nineties. Love it :icon_lol:
Cheers
:cheers:
I wave at motorcycles , and anything else if they wave me.
i do the "smilin bob" wave at everyone from the cage somedays. :laugh: :laugh:
I wave at just about everything - i even sometimes accidentally wave at scooters, and yea they are totally confused when i do.
lots of times i miss a wave tho, just because i didn't notice them until it was too late cause i was busy watching the road ahead of me.
when that happens the first thing that comes to mind is that the guy probably thinks im a duck now because im riding a cruiser and not waving, but really it was cause i didnt notice him in time. thats why i never care when people dont wave back to me - i just assume they didnt see me quick enough.
wont wave at pedal-bikes though, working in DC i think they should be freaking illegal to ride on the street. at least until they make them get licenses and insurance. and even then limit them to 25mph or lower roads, and freaking fine the shaZam! out of them when they run red lights. if i cant run a red light on my big boy bike - you cant do it on your sissy pedal POS.
I wave to the ladies..
Oh yeah and other bikes..
All the ladies wave back...when I am on the SV. :icon_twisted:
one of these days i am going to get myself killed by rubber necking at all the hotties around this college town.
I wave to all models of subaru imprezas, and all motorcycles.
Scooters don't get a wave.
Bicycles DO NOT get waves. It suddenly became the uppity popular thing to do around me. Everyone deckout in all this ghey riding gear like everytone is in the tour de france. They even made extra wide sidewalks for bikers and they have a lot of bike paths for them to ride on. They still insist on riding in the street causing traffic.
If they could get their bikes up to the posted limit, I'd be fine with them being on the street. Until then 15 in a 45 is NOT acceptable. No wave.
i don't know how bicycles even got into this. they have no engine they do not count. jesus we might as well include skate boards and roller blades if we are going to include them. you need two wheels, not 3 or more, a engine and gear.
I only wave when someone waves at me first.
i usually wave at everyone on a bike. there seems to be a trend no matter where you are sportbikes usually wave back and crusers are 50/50
Here in Eastern Kentucky the majority of bikes on the road are HD's or Japanese cruisers wishing they had HD and sport bikes. Almost all the sport bike riders would wave back and usually quick to wave. The HD guys are about 50:50 whether they will wave back unless you are riding an HD also. Which I thought was snobish. So for a while I would only wave back if waved to first. But I thought, no, I am going to wave to them if safe to do, and if they don't wave back then they are the a$$hole, not me. So if it has 2 wheels, they are always going to get a wave from me!
Randy
if i were ever forced to get a cruiser i would get a Japanese one before i got a hd. i just don't like hd, they suck, too heavy, low on power, low on torque, mechanically unreliable. i don't like the hd crowd and the image that goes with hd. hd sucks, hd riders suck, hd gear sucks, hd stores suck....everything about hd sucks. it is just American propaganda and media BS that make the so called hd legend. hd sucks
Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.
Quote from: frankieG on September 03, 2008, 07:05:09 AM
if i were ever forced to get a cruiser i would get a Japanese one before i got a hd. i just don't like hd, they suck, too heavy, low on power, low on torque, mechanically unreliable. i don't like the hd crowd and the image that goes with hd. hd sucks, hd riders suck, hd gear sucks, hd stores suck....everything about hd sucks. it is just American propaganda and media BS that make the so called hd legend. hd sucks
i dunno - the TC96 is not short on power. and a 1200 sportster is CERTAINLY not short on power, and a v-rod is fast as shaZam! too.
And thats the first time i have heard somebody accuse HD of being low on torque.
And HD is consistently rated really good for reliability - the new ones are very well built.
If HDs sucked, they wouldn't be the best selling motorcycles.
dont get me wrong - i love me some suzukis and some hondas - i just wish they would bring their good bikes here.
look at the suzuki.co.uk site - they get so many better naked bikes then we do.
at least we still get the honda 919. if i was looking for an I4 sportbike - the 919 would take it, or the k1200r
hd is #1 on something and that is marketing...making it part of americana. if you look at the power to weight ratio they are very underpowered.
1183 v-rod is 107 hp at 645 lbs 600cc bikes under 400lbs do that all day
the 1200 sportster is a pathetich 60hp...yup i looked it up and even i was suprised at that horribly low number. our little gs is running what 48 hp and 372 lbs.
boooh yahh
now frankie is comparing apples to oranges. ;)
Quote from: frankieG on September 04, 2008, 09:17:45 AM
hd is #1 on something and that is marketing...making it part of americana. if you look at the power to weight ratio they are very underpowered.
1183 v-rod is 107 hp at 645 lbs 600cc bikes under 400lbs do that all day
the 1200 sportster is a pathetich 60hp...yup i looked it up and even i was suprised at that horribly low number. our little gs is running what 48 hp and 372 lbs.
boooh yahh
i dunno, my wifes 883 sporty is much faster then a GS is.
Cant beat the GS's handling, but it certainly tries - that thing can turn a lot better then you would think it would.
Quote from: jserio on September 04, 2008, 04:20:03 PM
now frankie is comparing apples to oranges. ;)
its a typical thing here at www.applestoOrangesuninformedhdbashing.wtf :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
This has become a funny topic for me. I see all walks of life on my daily commute. If traffic allows, i tend to wave at every bike with the exception of spotless choppers.
Most riders in gear on sports bikes are already waving back or clutching with a head nod.
Most riders without gear on sports bikes are either a no response, or i watch them almost rear end a car due to waving.
Most riders on ducati monsters do not wave.
Most riders on choppers are people who only ride once every other month and are thinking about what gear they are in. Dont notice other riders.
Most riders on touring/cruisers wave depending on what neighborhood your in. All of them on my commute from hollywood through west la would wave. All of them from hollywood to inglewood on my new commute do not wave.
While this is what i feel happens, i know a return response is totally unpredictable. Due to the nature of traffic in los angeles, not getting smooshed usually comes before waving. Im never happy about it, but i get waves every other day that i dont get a chance to acknowledge.
i wave at every one if they don't wave back they are eather a snob or to busy to wave and nod at stop lights cause i almost waved at sombady and dumped the clutch but i stoped my self before i did
and no scooters they are usaly emo kids here
well i must be the exception and not the rule then
cause i ride a harley (and before that i rode a suzuki harley knock off) and i wave at everybody
i definitely do the nod if my hand is occupied though - hopefully people notice and dont think im a douchebag for not waving.
I wave to anybody on two wheels, even bicycles. [snob] Although non-motorized two-wheelers don't get the "special" wave. [/snob]
We're all humans, a little humanity goes a long way.
I usually get a wave back. If I don't, oh well. Maybe they were busy, scared out of their mind, or just don't like my ride. I did my bit. :)
I was driving down the expressway today, and witnessed two sport bike riders wave at a guy on a h-d. The h-d rider turned his head towards them, and didnt do shaZam!. No wave, no nod. Just looked striaght like, whatever. oh well.
yesterday downtown i was putting on my gear and saw a guy on a brand new Kawasaki 600 ninja. the light turned green for him and he was looking down at his left foot and pressing like crazy while revving the engine and looking up. back and forth back and forth the "i don't have a clue what i am doing" nodd. he got the bike moving at high rev and letting the clutch out way way too slowly and awkwardly. going going through the turn slow, still doing the head nod looking up and down. he finally made it through the light but i could hear him up the block, rev, clutch, rev clutch. obviously a newb who had no idea how to ride. but still i would have waved to him. eventually he will get it. as for the scooters they are still looking shocked that a guy on a sport bike would actually wave at a lowly scooter. ah they deserve it more than the dork who can't ride. love for everyone :)
lol love for everyone, 'cept hd riders Eh?
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on September 07, 2008, 11:13:04 AM
lol love for everyone, 'cept hd riders Eh?
rode for 6 hours today - almost every wave i gave out was returned. even the HD riders ;P
have u guys seen this ?
Its called ,.... THE HELLO KITTEH WAVE!!!. I think its dumb but watehver. I like the sound of his bike though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmNhXVy8FUg
I dont wave at scooters here. Most everyone on scooters and mopeds in los angeles are wearing tshirt, shorts, flipflops, and brain buckets doing 15 over the limit and splitting lanes. I avoid drivers who make such poor choices.
Quote from: jdanna on September 06, 2008, 08:34:14 AM
well i must be the exception and not the rule then
cause i ride a harley (and before that i rode a suzuki harley knock off) and i wave at everybody
i definitely do the nod if my hand is occupied though - hopefully people notice and dont think im a douchebag for not waving.
well according to frankie and the rst of the experts here at gstwin. hd riders DONT wave and are all assholes. ( in more words or less), hell i rode HD and waved :thumb:
Quote from: scottpA_GS on August 28, 2008, 11:58:53 AM
I wave only if they have a helmet on :cheers:
No helmet no wave :icon_twisted:
I like your concept. I usually wave if they wave at me first, but I think I'll wave at helmets from now on. :thumb:
Quote from: littleblackjeep on September 08, 2008, 12:29:34 PM
Quote from: scottpA_GS on August 28, 2008, 11:58:53 AM
I wave only if they have a helmet on :cheers:
No helmet no wave :icon_twisted:
I like your concept. I usually wave if they wave at me first, but I think I'll wave at helmets from now on. :thumb:
give the middle finger for no helmet lol j/k
i just started the, no helmet no love policy, today. I have yet to be so strict as to not return a wave from a helmetless rider. That will come soon enough i suspect. My form of silent protest to thier stupidity. :)
Quote from: frankieG on September 04, 2008, 09:17:45 AM
hd is #1 on something and that is marketing...making it part of americana. if you look at the power to weight ratio they are very underpowered.
1183 v-rod is 107 hp at 645 lbs 600cc bikes under 400lbs do that all day
the 1200 sportster is a pathetich 60hp...yup i looked it up and even i was suprised at that horribly low number. our little gs is running what 48 hp and 372 lbs.
boooh yahh
That's absolutely pathetic boobage to compare an 1100cc cruiser to a 600cc supersport...because 600cc supersports are the ONLY 600cc bikes making triple digit numbers "all day". A real comparison is an 883 Sportster to...say...Suzuki C50. Given, the Sportster does have 70cc on the Suzuki, but they have identical performance numbers (hp, tq, top speed, quarter mile, etc) and the Sportster has the benefit of an engine that requires no maintenance outside of changing the oil. Want another example? How about the 1200 Sportster compared to...oh....an M95. The M95 has the HD beat on hp and torque...73hp vs 70hp and 92lbs vs 69lbs, but Suzuki had to use another 300+cc's of displacement to do that. I don't know why...I mean, by your logic, the suzuki should make another 50hp with that edge in displacement. Must have made that up by making the M95 100lbs heavier and 200mm longer.
HD makes great bikes that are VERY competitive within their market and are competitive because they are GREAT bikes. HD's marketing department is good but nowhere near as good as Budweiser and Marlboro. There's no magic there.
As far as the original topic...
Cops, firemen, soldiers, vets, ambulance/ems/etc...all get a wave from me. Tremendous respect for these guys.
All motorcyclists get a wave from me and the ones who don't wave back get a birdie.
Scooters get a peace sign and a wave. Two wheels trumps four, no matter how big the motor is.
Dirtbike people in the fields and ditches and such get a "rock on".
Bicyclists get a peace sign or a birdie...depends on whether they showed respect for the people on the road behind them wanting to travel faster than 15mph.
Children get a wave. School buses get wave.
Anyone who waves at me or shows interest in my ride gets a wave.
Quote from: jserio on September 04, 2008, 04:20:03 PM
now frankie is comparing apples to oranges. ;)
how is that? we are comparing power to weight ratio's. for me that is a top 5 comparison. yes they are different bikes but i am answering post that say that the hd/buells are powerful when they clearly are not. of course they are different styles, meant for different riders, under different conditions. but they are not powerful when it matters to plain ol physics. i hear all the time 'oh my so and so has a 1600" or whatever. the "no replacement for displacement" adage no longer applies.
you're comparing cruisers (apples) to supersports (oranges). Who the hell compares Sportsters to GSXR's?
my balls itch :icon_lol:
Quote from: frankieG on September 09, 2008, 08:30:15 AM
Quote from: jserio on September 04, 2008, 04:20:03 PM
now frankie is comparing apples to oranges. ;)
how is that? we are comparing power to weight ratio's. for me that is a top 5 comparison. yes they are different bikes but i am answering post that say that the hd/buells are powerful when they clearly are not. of course they are different styles, meant for different riders, under different conditions. but they are not powerful when it matters to plain ol physics. i hear all the time 'oh my so and so has a 1600" or whatever. the "no replacement for displacement" adage no longer applies.
agreed. but when one compares a cruiser to a sportbike, thats teh argument i believe he made
Quote from: makenzie71 on September 09, 2008, 03:18:06 AM
Quote from: frankieG on September 04, 2008, 09:17:45 AM
hd is #1 on something and that is marketing...making it part of americana. if you look at the power to weight ratio they are very underpowered.
1183 v-rod is 107 hp at 645 lbs 600cc bikes under 400lbs do that all day
the 1200 sportster is a pathetich 60hp...yup i looked it up and even i was suprised at that horribly low number. our little gs is running what 48 hp and 372 lbs.
boooh yahh
mak you could quote this, wiht fact all day long, but some will absotively posilutely not believe you no matter what, and demand a recount :laugh:
That's absolutely pathetic boobage to compare an 1100cc cruiser to a 600cc supersport...because 600cc supersports are the ONLY 600cc bikes making triple digit numbers "all day". A real comparison is an 883 Sportster to...say...Suzuki C50. Given, the Sportster does have 70cc on the Suzuki, but they have identical performance numbers (hp, tq, top speed, quarter mile, etc) and the Sportster has the benefit of an engine that requires no maintenance outside of changing the oil. Want another example? How about the 1200 Sportster compared to...oh....an M95. The M95 has the HD beat on hp and torque...73hp vs 70hp and 92lbs vs 69lbs, but Suzuki had to use another 300+cc's of displacement to do that. I don't know why...I mean, by your logic, the suzuki should make another 50hp with that edge in displacement. Must have made that up by making the M95 100lbs heavier and 200mm longer.
HD makes great bikes that are VERY competitive within their market and are competitive because they are GREAT bikes. HD's marketing department is good but nowhere near as good as Budweiser and Marlboro. There's no magic there.
As far as the original topic...
Cops, firemen, soldiers, vets, ambulance/ems/etc...all get a wave from me. Tremendous respect for these guys.
All motorcyclists get a wave from me and the ones who don't wave back get a birdie.
Scooters get a peace sign and a wave. Two wheels trumps four, no matter how big the motor is.
Dirtbike people in the fields and ditches and such get a "rock on".
Bicyclists get a peace sign or a birdie...depends on whether they showed respect for the people on the road behind them wanting to travel faster than 15mph.
Children get a wave. School buses get wave.
Anyone who waves at me or shows interest in my ride gets a wave.
ok fair enough
lol. anyways. i put the no helmet no love rule into affect today. man, I think i may have peeved off a lot of people. It was nice out and all the bikes were out in force. I think maybe 15% had helmets...seriously...wtf. Oh well its thier right to die here in kentucky. Its also my right to not wave at stupidity in motion. :cheers:
I usually just wave if someone waves first. Unless I know them.
no gear no wavie...i still have not got anything but shocked looks from the scooter crowd though :laugh:
Motorcycles, all of them. Scooters, none unless they wave first. Cops all of them, though I would rather flip them off, but I wave because my Valentine1 just saved me again, and paid for itself over again. Best radar detector ever IMO.
I don't usually wave or even nod at HD riders, because I never get one back. But I noticed in the past couple of days (since it got colder) that they are starting to nod now. Maybe they do have some respect after all :dunno_white:
They just are starting to realize how goddam hard you are, or their hand is numb from all the vibration and what you think is a wave is just a shake out to try and get circulation back.....