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Title: GSXR title woes
Post by: natedawg120 on September 17, 2008, 07:55:57 AM
As some may know i got a nwe to me 04 GSXR 750 about 2 months ago.  Well Monday I got a call from the dealer and due to title BS that the previous owner, hereby referred to dork Douchington, is not taking care of as contracted to when he traded the bike for a cruiser.  So dork Douchington is in the middle of a legal battle with the dealer and my bike is in the middle of it.  So the dealer has gone out to find the best 04-05 GSXR he can with low mileage to swap for the one I purchased baring my approval.  The only thing i have added are frame and spool sliders but if another 04 05 750 can be found they can be swapped out.  Man why does this shaZam! always happen to me, i can't buy anything used without title problems lol. 

At least I didn't buy it from dork Douchington directly, cause then I would own a bike i can't ride  :thumb:
Title: Re: GSXR title woes
Post by: The Buddha on September 17, 2008, 08:44:56 AM
Niiiiiiiicccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeee ...

This is a lesson without consequences for you ...

Do not buy sheite without a title ... That crap is worth 35 cents.

Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: GSXR title woes
Post by: scottpA_GS on September 17, 2008, 10:15:28 AM

Just get your $$ back and buy a bike yourself, the dealer is just gonna mark something up that they trade in and still win...

The dealer screwed you. They know better than to trade a bike w/o a title.
Title: Re: GSXR title woes
Post by: frankieG on September 17, 2008, 10:51:50 AM
ya i would go back to the dealer and get my cash back and tell them to get their heads out of there ass when selling bikes.
Title: Re: GSXR title woes
Post by: bettingpython on September 17, 2008, 11:10:42 AM
When you trade a bike or car if it has a lien on the title because it is finaced dealerships are supposed to get a pay off qoute from the lender and pay off the trade in, in either case the trader should have brought a title to the dealership and signed it over on the spot whether or not he owned it free and clear. Having bought vehicles and traded them in this I know. So either the dealer has not paid off a lender so they can get a transfer to their name and then assign the title to you so you can transfer it to your name or they just did not get the title when they accepted delivery of the vehicle, which is their bad.

Since they can not produce a title to the vehicle you accepted delivery of you are not under contract to buy you can take the vehicle back to them drop it off and walk away if it was financed, they have no leg to stand on. If it was paid for in full get ALL of your money back and start shoppping around for bargains from private sellers. It's getting towards the end of the riding season and people will start selling bikes and by mid december you should be able to score good a good deal.
Title: Re: GSXR title woes
Post by: The Buddha on September 17, 2008, 12:29:15 PM
Oh yea, dealer committed fraud ... selling sheite without title ... booya ... complain to the cops, have them show up @ the stealer ... get your $$ back and 10% ... drop charges, find another peckerhead dealer, and repeat. Heck, puts new twist on the word "stealer" ...
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: GSXR title woes
Post by: natedawg120 on September 17, 2008, 01:43:39 PM
See i don't think the dealer screwed me over if i choose to take a bike that has less miles and is more valuable.  He had the title but due to interstate title requirements had to be met by the previous owner(PO) which he has not done thus the bike can not be titled in VA until that is handled by the PO in Kansas.  I don't blame the dealer as I knew that the title had to be transferred from another state and I have a bill of sale for that purpose.

As far as the way he has handled the situation I don't think he is a bad dealer, as he is the only guy I take my bike to, I just think he is to nice for his own good.  He has told me he will find another 04, 05 gsxr 750 or better and "If i give the ok" he will do the paperwork and make it right with the bank.  It has to be "more valuable" for the bank to accept this, I have called and made them aware of what is going on.

Basically he is buying it back and trying to keep my business and if he finds what I want then I will do just that.  If he does not he will buy the bike back from me and I will be on my way.  He was going to offer me a 2004 Ducati 749 in straight trade but a dude bought it two days prier before he expressed the idea to his wife (family run shop).

Needless to say shaZam! happens and I am going to see where it goes.  If i don't like the rabbit hole I pull out and run WITH my money :laugh: :laugh:

.... wait this says it all ....

Quote from: The Buddha on September 17, 2008, 08:44:56 AM
Niiiiiiiicccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeee ...

This is a lesson without consequences for you ...

Do not buy sheite without a title ... That crap is worth 35 cents.

Cool.
Buddha.

except its on the dealer, not me  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: GSXR title woes
Post by: The Buddha on September 19, 2008, 07:20:35 AM
OK so here is the moral of the story ... GSXR's they are evil.
GS500 is the good little bike, its the litte engine that could ...
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: GSXR title woes
Post by: natedawg120 on September 19, 2008, 08:35:37 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 19, 2008, 07:20:35 AM
OK so here is the moral of the story ... GSXR's they are evil.
GS500 is the good little bike, its the litte engine that could ...
Cool.
Buddha.

+1 on the gs500 but I don't think GSXRs are evil, just misunderstood :laugh: :laugh: Honestly I plan to pick up another GS sometime down the road, probably an E though.
Title: Re: GSXR title woes
Post by: frankieG on September 19, 2008, 09:06:16 AM
i can't believe you are defending the dealer.   again i would take this bike back and get a refund.  there is no reason or excuse for a dealer to let this happen to you.  they are the ones with the responsibility to ensure there is a clean title.  they sell bikes, they know how the system works.  they are making money off of you and the purchases so it is their responsibility.
Title: Re: GSXR title woes
Post by: natedawg120 on September 19, 2008, 11:18:35 AM
Quote from: frankieG on September 19, 2008, 09:06:16 AM
i can't believe you are defending the dealer.   again i would take this bike back and get a refund.  there is no reason or excuse for a dealer to let this happen to you.  they are the ones with the responsibility to ensure there is a clean title.  they sell bikes, they know how the system works.  they are making money off of you and the purchases so it is their responsibility.

Well I'm not defending him, however this is his problem and if he is willing to take care of it (find what I told him too or give me my money back) and keep me in the loop while doing so I don't have a problem with that.  I am not in any danger of A) owning a bike that I can not get a title for, B) having to deal with another states DM or C) having to take action with the previous owner legal or otherwise.  So I don't think I am in a bad spot.  If the dealer tries to pull a fast one then I will just take my money. 

It boils down to people make mistakes, he should have checked with the state on the title before he took the bike as a trade or sold it to me, period.  He knows this and is willing to work with me to make it right, i just don't see how that makes him a bad dealer because honestly the out of state trades he normally take are from surrounding states, not Kansas, and he just assumed there wouldn't be a problem.

Title: Re: GSXR title woes
Post by: The Buddha on September 19, 2008, 11:20:54 AM
Quote from: natedawg120 on September 19, 2008, 08:35:37 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 19, 2008, 07:20:35 AM
OK so here is the moral of the story ... GSXR's they are evil.
GS500 is the good little bike, its the litte engine that could ...
Cool.
Buddha.

+1 on the gs500 but I don't think GSXRs are evil, just misunderstood :laugh: :laugh: Honestly I plan to pick up another GS sometime down the road, probably an E though.


So there you have it people, GSXR's are evil and misunderstood, and GS'es are needed to keep em in line ... and show em what is what. There ... now that should settle it.
Cool.
Buddha.
Title: Re: GSXR title woes
Post by: natedawg120 on September 19, 2008, 11:22:36 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 19, 2008, 11:20:54 AM
Quote from: natedawg120 on September 19, 2008, 08:35:37 AM
Quote from: The Buddha on September 19, 2008, 07:20:35 AM
OK so here is the moral of the story ... GSXR's they are evil.
GS500 is the good little bike, its the litte engine that could ...
Cool.
Buddha.

+1 on the gs500 but I don't think GSXRs are evil, just misunderstood :laugh: :laugh: Honestly I plan to pick up another GS sometime down the road, probably an E though.


So there you have it people, GSXR's are evil and misunderstood, and GS'es are needed to keep em in line ... and show em what is what. There ... now that should settle it.
Cool.
Buddha.


:laugh: :laugh: