So I popped my first wheelie for all of 1.9382001 sec and when I go to park I notice my chain adjuster screw bent into the the metal guard that holds it in place. This cause my chain to have way to much slack and my rear axle moved forward, only on the chain side. I saw a post dated in June of this happening to someone else. Does anyone know how to strengthen the chain adjuster assembly so that my axle does not move forward and my chain keeps the right amount of tension?
Or should I just stop all this stupid wheelie non-sense?
Oh, you ned to give me your gs500 and buy a GSXR1000 ... Everyone be happy then ...
Cool.
Buddha.
I tired to pop a wheelie and the bike wouldn't do it. I only weigh 115lbs.. I popped the clutch at 8000rpms going about 4 mph but all it did was go forward real fast.
I weight 145. go 10-15 mph. pull in the clutch, rev to 7000 -8000rpm, drop clutch. She'll pop right up.
BUT.....
It pulls the back wheel toward the motor and fucks up the chain tension.
Who knows what to add so that the axle will stay put??
I can assure you that a GS will wheelie. I learned the hard way and it was not fun. I weigh 210 and my GF was on as well so at least 350 together and it still went right up.
I think my bike is f%&ked then. I took it to 8000 doing 5 and nothing. Anyways, now that you said that it could f%$k my bike I won't be doing that roflmao
did you pop the clutch? you should def get up at 8k in first if you pop it. if not check your clutch lever play, if it's too loose you may not get enough torque to get up.
Seriously?
I can put-put around at about 4k-5k in 1st then pop the clutch, rev to at least 9500-10k and she'll stand right up... never have I bent anything never has the chain knocked the rear wheel out of alignment, and never have I broken anything...
What's wrong with you?
Dan
Let me make sure I'm doing the technique right... You pull in clutch with one finger, rev bike, let finger go fast, and hang on....
This bike is not meant to wheelie so stop while your ahead.
The chain adjuster isn't ment to hold the wheel, only to aid in alignment. If the axle nut is properly torqued(sp) your wheel should not move.
Quote from: GI_JO_NATHAN on September 24, 2008, 03:13:03 PM
The chain adjuster isn't ment to hold the wheel, only to aid in alignment. If the axle nut is properly torqued(sp) your wheel should not move.
Yes, the chain adjuster isn't at fault here, it should never be under stress if you torque your axle bolts correctly. It seems like someone who wanted to do wheelies would be doubly sure they had their axle torqued up to the right spec specifically to avoid this problem...
Quote from: GI_JO_NATHAN on September 24, 2008, 03:13:03 PM
The chain adjuster isn't ment to hold the wheel, only to aid in alignment. If the axle nut is properly torqued(sp) your wheel should not move.
^^^ THIS COMMENT SHOULD BE A STICKIE ALREADY !
and as far as popping wheelies, yes, you can wheelie a gs. it's called feathering, or a 14t front cog. if you can't feather your gs up, STOP TRYING before you destroy your body. no, really.
Quote from: Skeets on September 24, 2008, 02:13:49 PM
Let me make sure I'm doing the technique right... You pull in clutch with one finger, rev bike, let finger go fast, and hang on....
1st gear:
Cruise up to about 20-25mph (4-5k rpm) and then pull the clutch in with 1 or 2 fingers to your knuckles, rev the bike up to about 9-10k rpm and dump the clutch... (let it go quickly). Keep your right foot over your brake and keep your 2 fingers on the clutch because those two things will make the wheelie go away...
2nd gear:
30-45mph... engine around 3k-4k rpm... same procedure, only this time rev to red line and pre-load the forks to help pull the bike up. Basiclaly cruise at 40 in 2nd... push down on the handlebars as you pull in the clutch and rev the engine to redline... then dump the clutch and pull back on the handlebars at the same time... this method won't get you up to balance point, but it'll pop the wheel none the less..
Disclaimer:
I am not, nor have i ever been an 'expert' on wheelies... this is simply my method. Please do not duplicate or copy this information in any way in your practice of motorcycle riding enjoyment. Motorcycles have 2 wheels for a reason, please keep them both on the ground.
Dan
I wouldn't want to be any one of your clutches. :nono:
I weigh about 250 and Ive had mine up in the air. O0
TwoWheelRida .... :dunno_white: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Perhaps if you'd called yourself OneWheelRida, you wouldn't be having these problems...
...just yanking your chain--no pun intended. Good luck getting her straightened out! :thumb:
Quote from: GI_JO_NATHAN on September 24, 2008, 03:13:03 PM
The chain adjuster isn't ment to hold the wheel, only to aid in alignment. If the axle nut is properly torqued(sp) your wheel should not move.
Yea I figured this after it happened, can my skinny a$$, 145 pounds put enough torque on the axle nut? Is there a tool to measure? or do I need one of those sweet torque guns u see in movies during races?
-Let me kno
DY
Quote from: TwoWheelRida on September 25, 2008, 06:27:46 AM
Quote from: GI_JO_NATHAN on September 24, 2008, 03:13:03 PM
The chain adjuster isn't ment to hold the wheel, only to aid in alignment. If the axle nut is properly torqued(sp) your wheel should not move.
Yea I figured this after it happened, can my skinny a$$, 145 pounds put enough torque on the axle nut? Is there a tool to measure? or do I need one of those sweet torque guns u see in movies during races?
-Let me kno
DY
You could get a torque wrench... There are some cheaper ones out there...
im 240 lbs
whored out hte pipe and went 2 teeth down up from...
i can get it up EZ
cant get tot he balance point though *doh!*
Quote from: starshooter10 on September 25, 2008, 09:36:14 AM
whored out hte pipe and went 2 teeth down up from...
What does that mean?
not sure what whored out the pipe means exactly. But the 2 teeth down up front means he went to a 14 tooth front sprocket which provides more torque.
Is that a job I should have a professional do? (getting a smaller sprocket)
Can I put enough torque on the axle nut by hand?
How much a new klotter pin cost, mines all rusty?
Quote from: TwoWheelRida on September 25, 2008, 10:31:51 AM
Is that a job I should have a professional do? (getting a smaller sprocket)
Can I put enough torque on the axle nut by hand?
How much a new klotter pin cost, mines all rusty?
You could put your own smaller sprocket on, lots of other people here do it, search for their posts.
You can torque the axle nut enough by hand, it would be helpful to have a torque wrench to know if you got it tight enough though...
Cotter pins should be cheap... Check bike bandit...
whore out the pipe....
ummm
get on your knees behind you bike and look at the exhast tip...
you'll see there is an opening maybe 2.5 inches thats for looks then the REAL outlets is under an inch wide...
i took a drill to the gap between the two...
i have 8x 5/8's holes right there.
WAY louder and it breaths a bit better
and yes 2 teeth down...
what that is...
on a GS your stock sprockets are 16/39 (if im not mistaken)
my GS has 14/39 (two down in the front)
that changes my gear ratio quite a bit.... so i have ALOT more UMPF! off the line....
but at the cost of top speed and my MPG is slightly down...
though if i drive it nice i still get 45 or so
how hard is the sprocket change, you got instructions anywhere?
When doing a wheelie has your chain got any looser after?
FYI..
search is your freind!
to change the front is very easy...
on the left side of you engine to the back there is a small cover with one maybe 2 screws...
and THAT is mounted into another cover with maybe 10 bolts..
pop that cover off and theres the front...
i wrestles mine off with a needle nose but you can buy proper pliars for under 10$
i think they are called c clip pliars?
and the new sproket was all of 13$
as far as the chain
they always stretch
how much is depending on what brand/model it is
and how well you have your chain slacked
a poorly slacked chain will eat your sprokets or strech SUPER fast
i personally run an R+K "X" ring 520
i havnt had to adjust it since i put it on 4k miles ago...
and remember to lube your chain >_<
man your way to experienced for me to understand! lol
personally run an R+K "X" ring 520
what that mean?
What's up Cincy! ;)
I thought I would post these pics b/c I had the same problem you had. Your axle nut wasn't tight enough so it shifted everything forward bending the adjuster nut plate. Just loosen the nut, remove (pry) the plate, and hammer it flat again. Then, align your wheel while the bike is on the side stand. Problem solved.
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i gotta make a vid these things r so easy 2 wheelie i can almost do it for 2 block lenghts its awsome. not tryin 2 show off jus sayin
Quote from: Grease_Monkey on September 26, 2008, 05:08:03 PM
i gotta make a vid these things r so easy 2 wheelie i can almost do it for 2 block lenghts its awsome. not tryin 2 show off jus sayin
whoolies are lame, didn't you get the memo ?
Quote from: GeeP on September 24, 2008, 07:17:57 PM
I wouldn't want to be any one of your clutches. :nono:
I know. The GS wasn't built to wheelie. Yes you can wheelie anything if you know how but why? Your just going to f%$k it up
High powered sports bikes can power wheelie, at least your not f%$king your clutch up, Stunt riders use specialy adapted bikes so the rear axle cant slide forward with all the bike weight and torque on it. Also think of all the strain your putting on your chain...
Stunt bikes are built for stunting not street bikes, not even Gixxers or alike.
I just cant understand it, everytime you pop that wheel up your hugely increasing your chances of dumpnig the bike and thats going to be expensive.
Maybe its just me but i dont have money to burn fixing bent axles, bent chain adjusters, sprokets dragged out of alignment for the sake of getting the wheel 2 foot of the floor.
That is probably why I haven't wheelied yet. I'm scared to dump it.
Quote from: Skeets on September 27, 2008, 09:24:28 AM
That is probably why I haven't wheelied yet. I'm scared to dump it.
You won't dump it if you take it easy. Out of all the bikes, mopeds, dirtbikes that I've owned i've never full-on done a balance wheelie. All of them are power wheelies done before the balance point.
THAT is when I KNOW I will dump it... once that balance point comes into play I get all ... uh... um... where... left?... right?... brake?... OH GOD!?!?!.... and F*CK... I'm dead.
Dan
NICE pictures,
Thats what happened!!
To Fix, did you use a toque wrench on the axle nut?
I want to do a little pop up wheelie again, but don't want to bend any metal!
Quote from: TwoWheelRida on September 29, 2008, 09:17:53 AM
NICE pictures,
Thats what happened!!
To Fix, did you use a toque wrench on the axle nut?
I don't own a torque wrench so I just tightened it to what I thought would be about 50-60ft/lbs. As long as it is tighter than it was....your set.
once you relighted and tightened, did you do another wheelie?
Did every stay in place if u did another wheelie?
I haven't done any more wheelies...I don't want to damage the bike or myself. If it were meant to be wheelied, it would have more torque and a better rear control arm. It's not a stunt bike so I won't treat it like one.
These bikes can stunt fine with some mods that you'd make to any stunt bike. It's still a poor man's bike, but talent will tell. ;)
My pc died a sudden and unexpected death so I lost all my great bookmarks, but just do a search on YouTube and you'll see some fun stuff. Not that I would try any of this myself, I'm too old and beat up, 30 years ago I would have. I have a 14t front sprocket and my hubby can wheelie this bike easy, but he isn't really comfortable with it, he prefers dual sports and supermotos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KJ9QV14b5I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KJ9QV14b5I)
This guy is really good 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN3OyHWBAsg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN3OyHWBAsg)
Bruno's the shaZam!.
http://www.brunoceriotti.com/ (http://www.brunoceriotti.com/)