So much talk going on about Obama and McCain...what about Harper, Layton, or Dion... bahahaha :laugh: :laugh:
man... I can't even keep a straight face!
I really should take politics more seriously in this country, but all of our PMs have been such retards ... its hard.
Dion - Celine Dion ... yea I vote Celine Dion.
Canada doesn't matter, they're not a real country. They have only been invented by US to help draft dodgers wait out the draft.
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: The Buddha on October 09, 2008, 09:41:06 AM
Dion - Celine Dion ... yea I vote Celine Dion.
Canada doesn't matter, they're not a real country. They have only been invented by US to help draft dodgers wait out the draft.
Cool.
Buddha.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: .................... No wait................................ OK :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
maybe if the liberal party brought someone to the table that wasnt a joke (cough dion cough) then i might vote for them again. seems like the lesser of all evils is harper though.
Ben harper?!?!?! I lke him, hes a good musician. wait, oh politics, I cant feel my brain..shaZam!
I'm voting for John Rambo for Emporor of the World.
Quote from: spc on October 10, 2008, 08:18:10 PM
I'm voting for John Rambo for Emporor of the World.
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20 things about Canada. "not a real country"
1. no deficit....spending has been under control for 15 years
2. public health care, great but still could use upgrading like medications being paid for
3. largest source of oil outside of the middle east
4. #1 trading partner for the US
5. taxes are not out of control...see #1
6. parliamentary system which allows for election of all members and no "appointments" to such things as minister of national defense.
7. PM can not override parliament
8. very low crime rate
9. very low number of persons in jail
10. no death penalty
11. decriminalized marijuana
12. constitution is the law of the land
13. police can not just pull over a "suspicious" vehicle
14. a very good social safety net (to help the less fortunate)
15. well respected through out the world
16. more than 2 political parties
17. a very low "gun culture"
18. guaranteed income for seniors
19. universities are not excessively expensive
20. educated and motivated work force
if it's so great, move there and stay. :thumb:
oh shut up....i have done more for my country than most and especially you. so don't give me that crap. jeez why does saying another country has great things about it makes americans so angry. prolly cuz our country, i am american, is such a mess right now. oh i am living in canada right now....moved here about a year ago
i do take offense, and it has nothing to do with your service. your service is saluted, appreciated. but don't give me the "i do more than you" bullshit. i TRIED to join the armed forces. couldn't. i'm too hard of hearing. how many others do you think are like myself frankie? imagine yourself, 18 years old, your father, his father and his father, all served their country. you try to follow in their footsteps only to be shunned away. i cried myself to sleep with a bottle of jack in my truck that night. i'll never forget that empty feeling.
ok no problem...it is just saying "move there" is a less than intelligent comment and does not add to the conversation or debate. it is a typical ignorant response when reason fails.
okay, reason. hmm..something that sad to say seems to be out the window in this country. okay mr. frankie g... pretend you're the prez, how would you do things differently?
Whoooo hooo Harper ... whooo hoooo ...
I never liked that celine dion ... but I thought Jean Chreitien traded her to switzerland for 400,000 lbs of choclate ???
Cool.
Buddha.
Quote from: jserio on October 15, 2008, 12:03:38 PM
okay, reason. hmm..something that sad to say seems to be out the window in this country. okay mr. frankie g... pretend you're the prez, how would you do things differently?
oh boy that is hard. OK lets say i am in a fantasy land and as prez i could get all passed. i would try to balance the budget. how? raise taxes on high income persons and corporations. cut spending on police, federal prisons, the military and much of the "police state" that we pay so much for. i would be out of Iraq in a year and out of Afghanistan in 2 yrs. i would force pharmaceutical companies to charge Americans the same as they do others in order to stop the overpayment and outrageous profits. i would cut the pay and benefits for all elected officials, to set an example. i would streamline our tax system to make it more fair and to decrease the bureaucracy. i guess the main areas i would change are health care and defense. i would change our external affairs to make America a friend to the world and not a super power to be feared. but balancing the budget would be the main goal that would be a very large challenge and take years to accomplish. removing tax breaks to American corporations would have to be handled with tact and to ensure we don't force them out of the country. i would also try and make America more self sufficient when it comes to fuels. bringing the LNG pipeline from Alaska to Washington state would be a important goal. that is pretty much what i can think of off the top of my head. to do this would be almost impossible within the constraints of our republic system. much of the pork barrel expenditures and getting laws passed through congress is much harder to do than just writing up a law and saying "there ya go" lol.
i persoanlly think the two party system is killing this country. but that's just me. oh, wait, this is a thread bout canadian elections. my bad. i vote for umm...oh, wait, i can't vote canadian. :laugh:
oh i agree with you about the 2 party system. Canada has a parliamentary system which even if it were 2 party it would work better than a republic. a republic has a elected president. but the rest are not elected in the executive including the VP. so that is not a democracy at all. appointing a defence minister and attorney general does not happen in a parliamentary system. but here in America our president may appoint whom he chooses. this is not right.
hmm...you may be on to something there frankie.
but the republic system does allow for citizens to vote for their head of state directly. a parliamentary system does not allow for that. you vote for your member of parliament, whom ever he or she may be. then which ever party gets most MP's elected the leader of that party becomes the Prime Minister. so if you want to vote for a person to be member of parliament but you don't like the leader of the party then you have a problem. because a vote for the member is a vote for the leader. so the party and its leader plays a vital role in a election under the parliamentary system.
there are positives and negatives to both sides i suppose.
even this Canadian Politics thread got hijacked by Americans... is there anything you guys don't take over? ;) :flipoff:
but seriously...
it makes more sense to vote for your MP (member of parliament) than it does goin directly for your head of state.
1) MPs are local, therefore their decision effect you directly in more ways than just a few
2) if a party has the most good MPs all across the country, then their party runs the country - it makes sense. Altho I admit it is a bit weird electing say 'The green party' in your district and having the Conservatives win the most seats. But whatever.
that said... minority govn'ts are useless. Harper called this election a year ahead of sched because the opposition kept poo-pooing bills, etc. I'm sick of politicians thrusting their own agenda. Why not work together to make a good freakin country? But wait... if the country's in good condition, everyone will re-elect the 'good' party. In this case, leaving the opposition as the opposition and they'll prob never make it into power. What's the point in that? Everyone wants to be PM. Power hungry, agenda pushers, that's what politicians are. ;)
The world needs some more MLK/Trudeau types... yes they had hangups but they rallied got shyte done.
i don't think minority governments are useless...i believe the opposite to be true. it give us balance and we can ensure our Canadian system is maintained. here in Fredericton i did not run for mp this time because i knew it was a no winner, and i was right. so i am not preparing for 2012 when i will run for mp in the riding of Fredericton. i am hoping that we will then have a liberal government and then i can be minister of national defense which is my goal. 2012 is my best shot and i have been waiting years for this opportunity. being mla, councillor or deputy mayor will all pale in comparison if i can win the seat here under a liberal pm and become a minister.
Yea ... I'll take that question please.
Let all the lying, cheating, theiving financial magicians and their companies fail.
If they come complaining, I'll offer them 2 options, stay free and hold on to their wealth, but every one of their employees investors and depositers they ripped off get their home address ... all of their home addresss. Or they can turn themselves in and enjoy the benifits of having bubba for a boyfriend ... and all their wealth goes back to the govt, where we will publically confiscate it all ... it be the OJ simpson trial for them ... every move gets on national media. The only thing I'd invest money in, is a freaking radio and TV station ... I'll call it Government vision ... or uncle sam's happy channel ... I haven't decided. I'll bring back debtors prison, and toss everyone who stole from the public in jail. The option if they want to stay out is to pay 100% of what they agreed to. If they were indeed conned into a mortgage (and I dont see how they could have been ...then their mortgage underwriter serves their sentence) In prison, they make toys and other things we have exported to china. One after another everyone fulfils their contract. We cannot throw millions in jail ... well we can if we throw 10 to a cell ... mortgage fraud, and heck all sorts of fraud used to be a crime ... now its a fashon statement. We dont need a bailout, we dont need democrat or republican ... we need someone who will enforce the damn laws we have ... not just the ones that are convenient.
Illegal aliens ... We implement an illegal alien tax. Somethign like 10G/yr oughta do it. 10 people use 1 guys social number ... not a problem, limit 1 SS number to 1 job ... unless they apply and go and get approval for a second or third job where fingerprints and what not will be verified. Trust me, Illegal immigration will come to a grinding halt ... or solve all our problems.
Million ways to do right ... and just as many ways to do it wrong ... and we are debating over who will only do 999,999 things wrong instead of all 1 million.
Finally, I will only serve 1 term ... its declared at the begining ... I dont have to do any damn thing for votes. I publish this right in the begining. Eeveryone gets 30 day notice ... then all the rules get enforced ... all at once ... and yes they get jailed and they are presented with the options on paper.
The system has been gamed ... its time to enforce the rules.
Cool.
Buddha.
its been gamed, even in canada. i see no country where it has not been gamed
wow im glad the government spent 300 million dollars on an election that got us right back to where we were before......someone screwed up big here.